So true, and when I go "but I like the rain" they stop complaining ^^Legion said:I remembered a new one: People complaining about the weather in England. I switch off and stop caring the moment they do this. Especially as all weather types are apparently worth complaining about by pretty much everybody.
In fairness, talking about the weather is often just a social bonding exercise. It's completely apolitical, if you are in a bad mood you can vent, and two people can have a decent social interraction without sharing any common interests.Legion said:I remembered a new one: People complaining about the weather in England. I switch off and stop caring the moment they do this. Especially as all weather types are apparently worth complaining about by pretty much everybody.
Ah. I think you may have misunderstood where I was coming from with that. It's not when someone is trying to explain their position on something that I take issue with the phrase. It is when I am trying to understand someone's opinion and they say that rather than trying to explain, either because they are too lazy to defend it or they truly believe I am unable to understand. I can empathize with not having the energy to get into a debate, to a certain extent, but the latter reason ticks me the fuck off.BlakBladz said:In my opinion...some of the time that's valid.Daeggreth said:SNIP
On the topic of appropriate/preferable methods of child birth or abortion - unless you're a woman, your opinion doesn't really mean shit... Because you're not a woman who has to actually do something with that kid.
On the topic of war, ethics of combat, methodology, so on so forth, unless you're a soldier who's had to fight in a war ground - or have had extensive experience first hand with violence, your opinion means fuck all.
Even when people say "look, unless you have a little bit of faith, you're never going to understand", that has merit.
The world should not be looked at objectively all the time; I don't believe you should have a 'science first' filter over every opinion you hold.
So if someone says "look I believe in the world being completely balanced or equalled out because of 'x'" or "I believe in the existence of a god, just out of faith. I believe it exists", you throwing a fit because you lack a particular experience or trait is unjustified.
You have something against Swiss villages??ShockValue said:When someone says "Handegg" it's like yeah don't even start.
So essentially what you are saying is that if anyone who disagrees with you either has to completely convince or be convinced in order to settle their differences? I mean, if someone really cannot back-up their points and essentially loses the debate and uses it as a free ticket out I understand. But sometimes two people can present their reasoning to each other and each have very convincing arguments but simply cannot come to a conclusion on who is 'correct'. I'm under the opinion that to 'Agree to Disagree' is just something people say when they realize that their ideals are in completely different places and that further arguing won't cause them to change their minds and may just lead to frustration. There isn't a 'correct' viewpoint, so arguments don't always lead to a victor.Shanicus said:Lastly... 'Agree to disagree'. No. Fuck off. Stick your dick in an ant-hill and set the whole thing ablaze. This does not show that you have matched you're opponent in wits the entire argument, incapable of proving that yours or theirs is the superior form of thinking - it just shows you didn't give enough of a shit about what you were arguing about to change your mind or accept that you were wrong. While this is common in internet arguments, aka 'Circular Fallacies', anyone actually saying 'We'll just agree to disagree' in a real-life argument is often laughed out of the building or punched in the face.
Dude... I love me some fried chicken, too, and I'm literally paler than a vampire.Ieyke said:Dude..."I'm not racist, but" HAS legitimate applications.krazykidd said:Wait , added your profession SHOULD make their opinion more valid , assuming that the topic is somethinf related to said profession . I mean i rather have medical advice from a doctor than a carpenter ....TizzytheTormentor said:"No offense, but *insert offensive sentence here*"
Seriously, it annoys me to no end!
I also agree on the whole "As a *insert profession here*" Thing...
It's just your opinion, no need to state such a thing.
OT: Someone once told me : " If you want to stay friends with someone , avoid talking about religion and politics" . So i avoid those topics alltogether . Also , "i'm not racist but..." makes me lose all interest in the person. Periode . I have 0 tolerence for racism of any kind .
I'm not racist, for instance, but sometimes you just have to comment on stuff like black people and their mysterious love of fried chicken.
I had a roommate named Denzel for a couple years. Most stereotypical black guy you can possible imagine, with the exception of his odd flamboyant personality. I KID YOU NOT, he kept our fridge stocked with orange soda, "purple drink" (which I did not know was a thing until then), and watermelon.... and the kitchen counter almost ALWAYS had an empty KFC bucket sitting on it. Dude woke up in the morning blaring gospel music, listened to rap during the day, and switched to R&B at night.
Some days I wonder if Denzel was just messing with us (his 2 white and 1 middle-eastern roommates), but there's no way someone would keep that up for 2 years, right?
In my Game Design class we were talking about having a party the last week of school. The professor was all "we could get some pizza!" the class-clown dude was like "HELL YEA, and we'll get some hookers and blow and PAAAAARTAY!"(completely joking, obviously), and then a black dude in the back of the class goes "Oh shit, man! Can we get some fried chicken up in here too?!"(he was dead serious) The whole class just missed a beat and then burst out laughing. Poor dude look confused for a minute til he realized what he'd said.
How do you explain that?
So, "I'm not racist, but dude...black people seem to love them some fried chicken."
Sometimes it's a legit phrase.
i can totaly second that.FelixG said:Another one:
"Piracy is theft!"
Because I can pretty much tune out as I know right away the person has fuck all idea of what they are talking about.
If people are constantly pointing out that your logic is fallacious and citing the specific fallacies you're employing they -are- making real points. Maybe you should pay attention.Marter said:Any mention of logical fallacies.
How about coming up with a real point, eh guys? ;p
I'll pull the "Agree to Disagree" card if an argument is getting too heated and isn't worth fighting over. If neither side is making any progress in the argument all that's going to happen is that you get pissed at each other. Not worth it over an insignificant argument.Shanicus said:Lastly... 'Agree to disagree'. No. Fuck off. Stick your dick in an ant-hill and set the whole thing ablaze. This does not show that you have matched you're opponent in wits the entire argument, incapable of proving that yours or theirs is the superior form of thinking - it just shows you didn't give enough of a shit about what you were arguing about to change your mind or accept that you were wrong. While this is common in internet arguments, aka 'Circular Fallacies', anyone actually saying 'We'll just agree to disagree' in a real-life argument is often laughed out of the building or punched in the face.
Seriously, easiest way to sabotage your argument is to add 'Agree to Disagree' to the end - even if you were winning, you'll suddenly lose after those words come out your mouth. Debates and arguments can be pretty intense, so saying something that's the equivalent of 'LoL, Don't care enough to change' is insanely frustrating and annoying. Doing the first two (I'm not an X, but X opinion/Your argument is made of Fallacy) will earn you an ignore, doing the last one will earn you a dick-punch.