What should we "retake" next?

[Vigormortis]

I say it's time to retake the moon.

No really, I'm serious. Ever since the Martian Alliance annexed it five years ago it's just been a constant shadow looming over our heads. We can't afford to continue letting them control it. We HAVE to take it back.

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What? Don't look at me like that.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Whelp, Retake Mass Effect is still in fully swing and, by all accounts, actually seems to have worked. This brings to mind the question: what other things should be "retaken" by consumers? Should we badger David Lynch to change the ending to Twin Peaks or David Lindeloff to change the ending to Lost? Should we bother Bioware some more to just scrap DA2 and make a new one? Should we badger Valve to make another damn Half Life game? Should we badger Peter Molyneux with FCC violations until he actually makes good on what he said in interviews for Fable 1-3?

don't forget Dallas's cliff hanger ending, been how many years? and we still donno who shot JR, should TOTALLY get some one on that

OT: how about 'retake our collective dignity', cause it was fucking embarrassing

 

[OldNewNewOld]

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Tell me, since you're such an intelligent, humble lass, how would one find out they don't like a game, especially an entry in a series they've liked up to this point, without playing it?

Also, your first statement is incredibly arrogant, "I like it, you don't, your opinion doesn't matter though because you shouldn't have got it in the first place."

You do understand that you asked that question over the internet, right?
Do you also know that there are sites where you can watch videos of people playing the game? And don't be shocked, but there are also game play trailer, reviews of professional journalist and of other user. Unfortunately not as popular as they were, but many games still have demos, which you can download for free and test the game.

Also, you can't know whether or not you will like the story as a whole. There is no way of knowing it 100% except by playing it.
But same goes for music, books, movies, paintings, clothing, food, cars and everything else that is being sold.
Can you request the architect to change your house for free after you have bought it? Did you ask any musician to change some songs after you bough a CD because of 1-3 songs you liked, but then realized you don't like the rest?
Can you ask that they change your food in a restaurant because you don't like the taste (keep in mind that the food is fresh and properly cooked, just not your taste)?

I never said you can't or shouldn't complain. I never said you can't criticize something.
But you don't have the right to request something to be changed because you want it so. You can ask, but not request. But even that isn't fair to the people who like it as it is.

By buying games, you have always to keep in mind that the game won't be the best think that happened to human kind since electricity. If you have to high hopes, you will be disappointed. You obviously overhyped the game in your head and now you're disappointed even more than you would have been.

And my first statement isn't arrogant.
Games are released as the developer imagine them. It's their vision. If you don't like it as it is, you never were the kind of gamer they were aiming at. People who like the game are. Therefor changing something to fit you even tho it never was intended for you is arrogant, if it is going to ruin the experience of the group for which it was intended.

 

[JediMB]

This always bugged me, but why did people not care that Human Revolution did an even shittier form of the same ending ME3 did? At least ME3's ending was A)Built up from game 1. They didn't tell you how the series would be finished, but they at least introduced all the elements from the get-go. And B) More involved than "Here are four buttons. Each one gives you a slideshow of stock photos".

Deus Ex: Human Revolution wasn't 100-ish hours of space opera ended with a spectacularly bad attempt at hard sci-fi through a Deus Ex Machina wrapped in a McGuffin?

So really all this bs about how the role of the consumer is changing in an increasingly direct relationship between customer and developer and customers are somehow entitled to demanding that devs go back and change their product to prevent perminently ruining the lives of people who somehow let themselves care that much is, well, bs because in the end, people just got too involved in the game series and were unhappy with the ending.

First of all, I think you just made that up, because that's no argument I've ever heard from anyone in the Retake movement.

Secondly, BioWare have expressed that they're proud of their passionate fans and strive to make people feel for their characters.

And lastly, there are dozens of reasons (different for different people) for disliking ME3's ending. There's how it seems to be an obvious consequence of publisher meddling and cut content, how it is completely disconnected from the rest of the story both plotwise and thematically, how it forces the player to make an illogical choice based on information that contradicts what has been said in the rest of the series (read: plot holes), that the entire final stage of the monomyth is missing after the climax, that each variant of the ending seemingly relies on magic in a fictional world where the big deviation from the sci-fi norm is manipulation of gravity through dark energy, that BioWare have chosen to defend the ending with the words "artistic integrity" despite that they seem unable to explain what their intentions actually were, and-god-this-is-such-a-run-on-sentence-it's-ridiculous-and-I'll-just-stop-right-here. [/intentionally bad paragraph]

Oh, also, customers simply have the right to criticize and demand that corrections are made to faulty products. Sure, BioWare also have every right to refuse, but that doesn't change the customer's right to make the demand to begin with.

EDIT: Oh, and I completely forgot to mention how BioWare representatives (including the game's Executive Producer) outright lied about the game after it had been finalized. That really can't be compared to Peter Molyneux's hype during the concept and alpha phases of development, since feature lists are still rather fluid at those points.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Whelp, Retake Mass Effect is still in fully swing and, by all accounts, actually seems to have worked. This brings to mind the question: what other things should be "retaken" by consumers? Should we badger David Lynch to change the ending to Twin Peaks or David Lindeloff to change the ending to Lost? Should we bother Bioware some more to just scrap DA2 and make a new one? Should we badger Valve to make another damn Half Life game? Should we badger Peter Molyneux with FCC violations until he actually makes good on what he said in interviews for Fable 1-3?

don't forget Dallas's cliff hanger ending, been how many years? and we still donno who shot JR, should TOTALLY get some one on that

OT: how about 'retake our collective dignity', cause it was fucking embarrassing

Actually, the series is getting a continuation later this year, so there is that.
While I know very little about Dallas, I do know enough to say that you are wrong, we do know who shot JR. It was

Spoiler

Kristin

EDIT: Also, methinks people are taking the joke thread a bit too seriously... :/

 

[William Ossiss]

We badger Peter Molyneux with FCC violations until he actually makes good on what he said in interviews for Fable 1-3.

This is what I got from the initial post. Screw PM and his lies! Let's file something straight away!

 

[Lunar Templar]

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Actually, the series is getting a continuation later this year, so there is that.
While I know very little about Dallas, I do know enough to say that you are wrong, we do know who shot JR. It was

Spoiler

Kristin

EDIT: Also, methinks people are taking the joke thread a bit too seriously... :/

ah, well its a soap so you'll forgive me for not being aware (i hope).

and yeah, not surprised, the butt hurt over ME3 is sadly still in massive force, even if the whiners are getting what they want

 

[malestrithe]

Never understood the retake moniker. It implies that the game was ours to begin with. It was not. I, nor anyone else that complained up a storm did not give a dime to the development of the game. Electronic Arts fronted the bill for it. If they lost it somehow, then they have every right to retake the game from whoever stole from them. I own my physical copy and if it was stolen, I would make efforts to get it back. But I did not own anything about the game series. My involvement, as well as everyone else who wanted to retake the game, ended at the moment we paid for our copy of the game. We were not owed anything after that.

Even if it was ours, who did we lose Mass Effect 3 to? Did we lose it in some battle?

What you did was not retaking the game. No, what you did was harass a company until the company gave in and changed the game to your liking. Be honest with yourselves and call it what it is: acting like a bunch of toddlers and cried until you got your wish.

 

[ThePS1Fan]

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I can't put it any other way. This idea that gamers should have the power to change whatever irks them is stupid, if you don't like games don't buy them, make your own, whatever. If we did have that power I could no longer defend gamers in the entitlement argument.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Retake the old days when develiopers could develop and fans kept their sticky noses out of it, and sucked it up and accepted what they got.
Seriously the day every move a developer makes is dicated by the fans then thats the day we should print Fan-fiction in bloody paper back.

 

[crystalsnow]

I think you should retake your heads.

 

[Biodeamon]

earth in general.

 

[Brixton6]

Retake the old religions. Zeus requires sacrifice.

I would become religious if the old gods returned to us, liberating us from this monotheistic nonsense...especially if they ride in on unicorns...to the Game of Thrones theme song.

OT: Retake comedy. I don't understand American comedians anymore. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard as I did during episodes of Never Mind the Buzzcocks and The Big Fat Quiz of the Year. The American comedians need to sit in a corner and think of what they've done while the British comedians take over the world. I don't know about you, but I'll certainly be happier under their regime.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Retake my maths exam!

Oh wait... I'm already doing that.

 

[Major_Tom]

Retake Silent Hill. Re-assemble Team Silent, give them all of Konami's money.

 

[woodwalker]

Uh, Valve better be workin' on Half-life 2 episode 3 anyway... If they have been putting out those fuckin Left 4 Dead games and Portal 2 instead of actually giving us a satisfying ending to Half-life, then gods help them when they die and go to gaming hell...

 

[BreakfastMan]

Retake Silent Hill. Re-assemble Team Silent, give then all of Konami's money.

This, this I agree with. Konami needs to stop faffing about with MGS and Castlevania and get to making a good Silent Hill game. Where is the kickstarter for, that eh? EH!?!

 

[RanD00M]

I say we retake the Escapist. We have lived with the bloated corpse long enough. It is time we resurrect it and feel the glory of the days of old.