What the hell Civ V AI?

[TheJwalkR]

Ya I was playing as Hiawatha and Bismark and I were taking on a city state together. I deal the final blow and take the city, then Bismark goes and calls me "the bloodthirsty one". Oh and he was the one that first attacked the city state.

Oh well I still love that game to death.

 

[Altorin]

AI is hard to get right in a strategy game since there are so many variables. I have to say that I've found diplomacy to be annoyingly difficult and generally just go out and destroy those I don't like.

My best example of "Geneyus" AI wasn't in Civ V, but in Star Trek: Birth of the Federation (I love that game). I was Romulans (as usual) and the Federation had gotten the living crap beaten out of them in a recent war; so they only had Sol left and no ships. I took pity and gave them loads of cash (shame you can't gift units), beat up the guys beating them, and formed an alliance (the strongest diplomatic treaty in the game). I did everything I could to help them and all of a sudden they declared war on me. This was out of the blue and the stupidest possible thing they could do. They had one system and no ships where as I had a dozen systems and a battle hardened armada a turn's travel away. Needless to say the battle was short and earth was reduced to a ball of rock.

The Federation declared war?

*sighs*

The Federation...

...declared war?

I know it's a strategy game, but the federation doesn't declare war.. They defend against insurgents, and sometimes war is declared upon them, but they don't declare it.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the AI that has Ghandi be a bloodthirsty ruler?

But doesn't allow any of the real-life bloodthirsty rulers...yeah, that's the one.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I know it's a strategy game, but the federation doesn't declare war..

They just send Kirk in. Similar effect.

We come in peace...shoot to kill

 

[thenumberthirteen]

AI is hard to get right in a strategy game since there are so many variables. I have to say that I've found diplomacy to be annoyingly difficult and generally just go out and destroy those I don't like.

My best example of "Geneyus" AI wasn't in Civ V, but in Star Trek: Birth of the Federation (I love that game). I was Romulans (as usual) and the Federation had gotten the living crap beaten out of them in a recent war; so they only had Sol left and no ships. I took pity and gave them loads of cash (shame you can't gift units), beat up the guys beating them, and formed an alliance (the strongest diplomatic treaty in the game). I did everything I could to help them and all of a sudden they declared war on me. This was out of the blue and the stupidest possible thing they could do. They had one system and no ships where as I had a dozen systems and a battle hardened armada a turn's travel away. Needless to say the battle was short and earth was reduced to a ball of rock.

The Federation declared war?

*sighs*

The Federation...

...declared war?

I know it's a strategy game, but the federation doesn't declare war.. They defend against insurgents, and sometimes war is declared upon them, but they don't declare it.

I know. The game AI is generally quite true to the race's personality, and there are all sorts of modifiers in place that punish and reward you to play in that style (the federation gets a big morale drop if you declare war, whereas the Klingons get a boost). I play as Romulans since they are a devious race and you get good morale boosts for both peace and war, and you don't get penalised as badly for breaking a treaty.

 

[Altorin]

AI is hard to get right in a strategy game since there are so many variables. I have to say that I've found diplomacy to be annoyingly difficult and generally just go out and destroy those I don't like.

My best example of "Geneyus" AI wasn't in Civ V, but in Star Trek: Birth of the Federation (I love that game). I was Romulans (as usual) and the Federation had gotten the living crap beaten out of them in a recent war; so they only had Sol left and no ships. I took pity and gave them loads of cash (shame you can't gift units), beat up the guys beating them, and formed an alliance (the strongest diplomatic treaty in the game). I did everything I could to help them and all of a sudden they declared war on me. This was out of the blue and the stupidest possible thing they could do. They had one system and no ships where as I had a dozen systems and a battle hardened armada a turn's travel away. Needless to say the battle was short and earth was reduced to a ball of rock.

The Federation declared war?

*sighs*

The Federation...

...declared war?

I know it's a strategy game, but the federation doesn't declare war.. They defend against insurgents, and sometimes war is declared upon them, but they don't declare it.

I know. The game AI is generally quite true to the race's personality, and there are all sorts of modifiers in place that punish and reward you to play in that style (the federation gets a big morale drop if you declare war, whereas the Klingons get a boost). I play as Romulans since they are a devious race and you get good morale boosts for both peace and war, and you don't get penalised as badly for breaking a treaty.

I think that's the race I'd have to play

I NEVER honor treaties when dealing with CPU players.

My last game of civ 5, I literally had a Pact of Cooperation with EVERYONE I MET, and a Pact of Secrecy with EVERYONE I MET against EVERYONE I MET.

I never honored any of the pact of secrecies, but it was really sort of funny

 

[thenumberthirteen]

The Federation declared war?

*sighs*

The Federation...

...declared war?

I know it's a strategy game, but the federation doesn't declare war.. They defend against insurgents, and sometimes war is declared upon them, but they don't declare it.

I know. The game AI is generally quite true to the race's personality, and there are all sorts of modifiers in place that punish and reward you to play in that style (the federation gets a big morale drop if you declare war, whereas the Klingons get a boost). I play as Romulans since they are a devious race and you get good morale boosts for both peace and war, and you don't get penalised as badly for breaking a treaty.[/quote]

I think that's the race I'd have to play

I NEVER honor treaties when dealing with CPU players.

My last game of civ 5, I literally had a Pact of Cooperation with EVERYONE I MET, and a Pact of Secrecy with EVERYONE I MET against EVERYONE I MET.

I never honored any of the pact of secrecies, but it was really sort of funny[/quote]

Honour is for wusses. That the Romulans also have, arguably, the strongest unit in the game, the Warbird II, also made them attractive. They're great at spying and sabotage too.

 

[Olikunmissile]

I'm hoping someone/designers mod/adjust it in the near future.

The AI is so broken and disjointed that it makes me not want to play.

Who wants an online game?

 

[Korey Von Doom]

The AI is horrible, if you are on another continent you are safe from everyone.

You can't have allies.

And Ghandi is a cheater.