What the hell is up with fighting game bosses?

[Nannernade]

Doesn't really matter, just do what any regular idiot would do in a fighting game, look like you're having a seizure while you button mash your way to fighty time glory. ^_-

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

The only fighting to game to get it right was Tekken 3. Ogre was a challenge but not cheap

You don't play too many fighters, my friend.

There are others, for example...

Gill (Street Fighter 3) - regardless of what others say, Gill is not "cheap". Gill is what a boss should be, difficult. Sure, most of his attack hit twice and thus gave him a bit of an attack boost, but he's still very manageable.

Demon Hyo (Project Justice) - another boss that was just difficult... unless you picked someone like Kyousuke, or Roberto. Then you could easily wipe the floor with him.

Dural (Virtua Fighter) - like Gill, Dural is hard but she's not all that bad. Dural is one of those bosses that will plat out just beat your ass for no reason; no power-ups, no "wtf?!" like tricks, just pure unadulterated ass-kicking.

Jivatma (The King of Fighters 2006) - a balanced boss in an SNK game is saying something. Outside of his ridiculously long reach (and one low attack that tracked), it's very easy to make short work of him... or it, or... something.

Kain R. Heinlein (Garou: Mark of the Wolves) - Kain's more or less the model for how bosses should be. He's not difficult at all, but he can kick your ass.

Abyss (Marvel vs Capcom 2) - Abyss is a joke, especially if you have projectile characters. Only his third form may give you a problem, and that's simply because of his elevated hitboxes (and the one move where he summons a bunch of demons out of the ground). But even then, he (or it, rather) is laughable.

Then again... there are very few tha play fighters as much as I do.

I'll say this much more then I'm out, those of you who play Blazblue, you're gonna have a ball if you ever try Score Attack and make it to Black Ragna...

Sorry let me correct myself
The only fighting game I HAVE seen to get it right was Tekken 3

Oh God I remember this final boss in DOA4 to be a pain in the ass.

Ohh i hate that B****

Yeah I share your pain. BTW it's OK to swear on the Internet its not like a family member will see it .

They're always watching

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I HATE SETH!! He is the main reason why I hate that game and I honestly think he was the most annoying person ever. I've beaten only a few times and that was by spamming.

 

[SageRuffin]

I HATE SETH!! He is the main reason why I hate that game and I honestly think he was the most annoying person ever. I've beaten only a few times and that was by spamming.

Capcom failed with Seth; for all that they should have just put either Gill or Urien back in the game.

 

[e2density]

Fighting games...really shouldn't have too much of a story, IMO...let alone 'bosses'...

 

[Graustein]

This completley off topic but i just had an idea
What if in a fighting game if you use the same attacks over and over they get weaker?
And attacks are stronger as you vary it up? this would certainly help against the bosses i mentioned becuase they only use about 3 moves

The only fighting to game to get it right was Tekken 3. Ogre was a challenge but not cheap

Smash Bros. does that, at least the first bit. It's not severe enough to really discourage spamming, but it's there. How it actually applies to bosses varies; bosses are either other characters and therefore subject to this (although they have a complete moveset, so it's not that much of an issue) or monstrous things with health bars, probably not subject to it. Although I've never played as one in practice mode to find out.

Fighting games...really shouldn't have too much of a story, IMO...let alone 'bosses'...

Why not?

 

[SageRuffin]

Fighting games don't need a story, but it certainly helps to get into it.

It's one of the things that makes Soul Calibur and Guilty Gear so engaging (though the former went to hell after SC2). Other games like Tekken, it's hard to either get into the universe or at least get more intrigued about the characters because of how little sense the story makes. C'mon now... panda bears who know martial arts?! Are you fucking for real?!

Anyway, didn't mean to derail the thread like that. Continue.

 

[e2density]

Fighting games...really shouldn't have too much of a story, IMO...let alone 'bosses'...

Why not?

Because there isn't enough happening to make a story worth while! There is never going to be a "captivating" story in a fighting game...

Meet Enemy > Talk Trash > Turn into a limited sidescroller and fight > Meet Enemy > Talk Trash > Turn into a limited sidescroller and fight


Rinse and repeat. Seriously, how much story can be applied to that?

 

[Graustein]

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Stories can be told via cutscenes, with battles in between. Story doesn't have to be told exclusively or near-exclusively through the gameplay, after all.

 

[scorch 13]

Insert ZP reference here.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

I don't know that I've played any fighting game where the boss was just legitimately tough to beat because they weren't just spamming attacks that are absurdly powerful or unblockable. DOA3's Genra was just stupid because he can use projectile attacks and no one up til that point in the game uses them.

 

[prinxess]

In Street Fighter 4, I just spam the high kicks and punches. See how he likes that D:<