What the hell is wrong with the world?

[Macgyvercas]

I believe the general rule is half your age plus seven, i.e. a 20 year old should not date anyone younger than 17.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

I love how many people have apparently forgotten what they were like when they were fifteen.

I don't. And what does that matter anyways? She is 15. If she was 17 or 18 there would be no real issue. But 15? That is bullshit pure and simple.

The arbitrary lines of age for sexual consent are bullshit.

When and if you ever have a daughter you come back and tell me that. Or a son for that matter.

If the male was even 17 I would not have an issue with it at all. I would not want her having sex if she was my daughter, but dating a 17 year old if the is 15 is not a bad thing. But he is 20 man. 20. That is just fucked up.

Oh excellent, you've played the parent card. I guess you win this argument. No wait, that's not how life works.

You have yet to really say why a 20 year old man dating a 15 year old is 'fucked up' beyond your own emotional driven response.

[HEADING=1]Young people have sex[/HEADING]

I know. Shock, surprise, horror. This girl is doing this of her own free will and that you would jump in to forcibly separate two people who seem to be happy together makes you come off as a very cruel and unreasonable person.

Is there some kind of award we can give to good posts? Maybe post some chocolate based confectionary to the person who made the post? If so you should get some caramel shortcakes Amnestic.

 

[Flishiz]

*snip*

Any way we can know your age? Yeah, 5 years may seem like a big difference. Ask kids of some ages, a single year may as well be a decade when it comes to ages in relationships. My grandparents were roughly 13 years apart, didn't cause any problems. It all depends on the relative point of view.

 

[lord canti]

I love how people use the "well if they like each other excuse" so then that must mean it would be perfectly alright for a 12 tear old to go out with a 20 year old since they like each other right?

 

[Little Duck]

Thing is where do you draw the line with stuff like that, as dating is dependent on the person's willingness on both ends.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Why people are selfish? Instincts. We do what we think is best for ourselves automatically, and we all have different levels of logic and morals. Is the age gap creepy? Yes, although here in Sweden you're allowed to boink when you're 15. I guess the only problem is that they're life-styles are very much apart, and the parent's will probably not approve of it.

EDIT: I can't believe nobody has posted this yet:

Spoiler

 

[axia777]

Oh excellent, you've played the parent card. I guess you win this argument. No wait, that's not how life works.

You have yet to really say why a 20 year old man dating a 15 year old is 'fucked up' beyond your own emotional driven response.

[HEADING=1]Young people have sex[/HEADING]

I know. Shock, surprise, horror. This girl is doing this of her own free will and that you would jump in to forcibly separate two people who seem to be happy together makes you come off as a very cruel and unreasonable person.

Uh yes, I would play as the parent if I was the parent. That is a parents job.

And yes, I know, young people have sex. And if you would notice my response you have seen that I said I would not want her having sex at 15 but if it was with a person near her own age it would not be that bad as long as she used protection. But with a 20 year old man? Hell fucking no. Fuck him. I would whip his ass all over town.

 

[DevilSShadoW]

Wow, seeing the words "dating" and rapist/child molester in the same phrase is a bit weird. I taught that "dating" implied something mutual from both parties. Unless the guy has mind control abilities i don't really find anything wrong with it.

 

[lord canti]

Dude, I know what you are talking about... I know (vaguely) this 19 year old who seems to only date 13 years olds... he has been dating 13 year olds for ages... I asked how old his last girlfriend was once I found out the age of his current one and the answer was 13...

I was just gob-smacked... but I thought to myself "Whatever, as long as he keeps good on his promise of waiting as he said he would"... later that day they were kissing... THAT IS WRONG! I pointed it out and people just said "What? They arent having sex"... OH! OKAY, so IF some 16 year old comes along and makes out with you 10 year old you are just going to sit back and say "Well... they arent having sex...".

Makes me want to set the guy on fire.

Op said 15 and 20, not 13 and 19. Yes, there is a big difference. Or else you could just as easily say to me:-

"When he was 19 he was in bed with a 34 year old! That's terrible! I mean, if she was 30 he would be 16! That is just wrong. She's twice his age. Just think, when she was twenty he was only SIX! She must be a paedophile having sex with a six year old!"

You can't just push back times like that. Some people are quite mature at 15, indeed this would be legal in a lot of EU countries.

If you are going to quote someone GENERALLY its a good idea to read what they wrote... especially if you are then going to comment on what they said.

Reading the first couple of sentences would have given you all the information you need to know but NOOOOO you had something to say, no matter how irrelevent!

I didnt say "Watch me work some maths magic here and turn the guy into a peadophile.", firstly the described chap in the OP IS dating a minor!

And the guy that I mentioned was 19 and made out with a 13 year old... thats peadophilia.

IF you sympaphise with peadophiles then that is your problem... and a big one at that. But that just makes you even more wrong in general.

Erm... sleeping with 15 year olds is not paedophilia.

Ohhh... I would like you to quote the part of my post that made you think I "sypaphise" with paedophiles, because that is a pretty serious accusation and I really want to answer it.

Ok I might be confused here but how is sleeping with a 15 year old when your 20 not pedophilia?

 

[cuddly_tomato]

I love how people use the "well if they like each other excuse" so then that must mean it would be perfectly alright for a 12 tear old to go out with a 20 year old since they like each other right?

You just did what Jak did. The girl is 15, not 12. And yes that does make a difference.

 

[Amnestic]

I love how people use the "well if they like each other excuse" so then that must mean it would be perfectly alright for a 12 tear old to go out with a 20 year old since they like each other right?

If you can't tell the difference between mental and physical maturity at age 12 and age 15 I despair for your biology teacher.

Uh yes, I would play as the parent if I was the parent. That is a parents job.

And yes, I know, young people have sex. And if you would notice my response you have seen that I said I would not want her having sex at 15 but if it was with a person near her own age it would not be that bad as long as she used protection. But with a 20 year old man? Hell fucking no. Fuck him. I would whip his ass all over town.

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

 

[lord canti]

Wow... Someone is a jealous little ***** huh. First off, if it does not involve you and no one is getting hurt then stfu.
No one cares if you have a crush on the girl and are just all whiney because she won't fuck you. Secondly statutory rape is really a joke law. Not many people really even give a shit about it. It is not like shes 5 or something.
If you can not be happy for them then I suggest you kill yourself now and save the rest of the world the hassle of having to deal with selfish ass.

Also just on this topic in general. Back only a couple hundred years ago, older men banging even 13 year olds was perfectly acceptable in our culture, especially if the girl was willing. Just because some whiney bitches changed the law does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

and a couple hundred years ago it was ok to own another human being and treat them like animals so that must mean it fine to do that now huh?

 

[NotAPie]

Well atleast it isn't as bad as my story.

Just be glad he's a sweetie and not a crazy obsessed 20 year old.
Anyway, I've always thought that age was just a number but come on...5 years?
Its not bad but I just wonder if her parents know about this.
It could be worse just leave it at that.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

How can people be so fucking selfish?

Your logic fails. I do not see how anything you said could be considered selfish? If someone is going out with someone 5 years younger, how in the hell is that in any way selfish!? Not saying it is right or wrong, but it no way is it "selfish".

Anyway... the only thing I really see wrong with it is that she is underage... Hell, I work with some girl who is 27 and she is married to someone my age (18-19). I can't say I understand it, and who am I to say what is right or wrong? In the end, I live my life and not theirs, so why should I have any say in who they should or shouldn't date? Then again, like I said before, it does seem worse (and possibly wrong) if one person is under aged... but, then again... what if the male was 3 days older then the female, he turned 18 and she was still 17... technically, he would be dating someone under aged (depending on where you live)...

So, in short, their lives not mine, not hurting me or anyone I care about, so oh well...

 

[axia777]

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

We will agree to disagree. Let's see if you think the same way when and if you become a parent.

 

[lord canti]

I love how people use the "well if they like each other excuse" so then that must mean it would be perfectly alright for a 12 tear old to go out with a 20 year old since they like each other right?

If you can't tell the difference between mental and physical maturity at age 12 and age 15 I despair for your biology teacher.

Uh yes, I would play as the parent if I was the parent. That is a parents job.

And yes, I know, young people have sex. And if you would notice my response you have seen that I said I would not want her having sex at 15 but if it was with a person near her own age it would not be that bad as long as she used protection. But with a 20 year old man? Hell fucking no. Fuck him. I would whip his ass all over town.

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

Im not saying that I'm making fun of the people who say as long as they like each its ok. So by their logic if a 12 year old likes a 20 then it will be perfectly fine to go out with them and yes their are alot of mentally mature 12 year olds out there.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Ok I might be confused here but how is sleeping with a 15 year old when your 20 not pedophilia?

Paedophilia is an abnormal sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children

 

[Booze Zombie]

My dad is almost sixty and my mother is 40, tell me what you think of that...

Age barriers change by country, state and time lived in, not to mention an individuals opinion.
For instance, a few hundred years ago, it was normal for ten year old lords to get themselves a wive.

Also, you've got a dirty mind if you think every relationship is a sexual one.
Then again, you've got to be very naive to think every relationship is a romantic one.

 

[SsilverR]

Does OP know the 15 year old girl involved as well, and have a thing for her?

DING DING DING

You are a winner!

i'll have to agree with this too ... i dated a 16 year old when i was 20 .. and sometimes the intellect and personality some people can have at even those ages can be surprising .. she's now my ex but we're still good friends ... that's a scenario ... and in the UK it was also legal ...

but yeah the OP does seem somewhat bitter about the whole situation