What Voldemort should have done. (Slight spoilers)

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razer17

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LaughingTarget said:
Such is the trademark of a bad writer, relying on convenience to allow the hero to win.
let's just remember she isn't really a proffesional writer. she only wrote the books for her daughetr (or son), and then they caught a lucky break and became succesful. not that i don't agree that they weren't exactly well written.

also i have always said they should have just shot voldemort, but that would be somewhat of an anticlimax.
 

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NeutralDrow said:
Julianking93 said:
NeutralDrow said:
Julianking93 said:
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Fat_Hippo said:
Yeah, kill the good guy in the first paragraph and then write a book about the evil guy. Much more interesting that way.
Voldemort was a much more interesting and compelling character. He had more depth.

Harry was just an angsty teen.
This. That little emo acting fuck. And he's just gotten worse over time, but goddamn it all to hell, I can't stop watching them.
He does have reasons, you know.

It's also kind of an ironic twist to be talking about a hero acting too realistically, in a thread dedicated to complaining about a villain not being realistic enough (supposedly).
I know he has reasons, I'd be the same way if my parents were killed :b, but I'm not complaining that the villain was not realistic enough, it's a fucking book about wizards and witches, how realistic am I gonna expect.
Yeah, I realized that immediately after I hit "post," and tried to change it to less of an accusation than a musing.

And I think a conversation of TV Tropes' <url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustBugsMe/HarryPotter>"Just Bugs Me" page got it down.

Why is Harry such a jackass from book five onwards?

* Part of Voldemort's soul was inside him.
* And he's a teenager.
* And people keep killing his loved ones without warning. Gets to a man.
* And the entire country thinking that he was nuts for most of book five and the most wanted wizard in the country in book seven didn't help much either.
* Not to mention the fact that the most shit-scary evil wizard in all wizardom - the same one who killed his parents, no less - has come back from the dead and is gunning for him personally. I'd be a bit on edge.
* I think the annoyance with Harry is more due to the fact that he is a jackass at the wrong times. For instance, in the fifth book, he is at his whiniest because Cedric is dead (he didn't even like Cedric), and because people don't like him (the school turns against him pretty much once a book anyway). However, after his godfather/father figure is killed he is much much much less whiny, so he basically looks like an idiot for whining all the time before, or a jerk for not whining more once Sirius is dead. At least, that's why I want to smack Harry's head into a wall in the later books.
** Cedric's death doesn't upset Harry because he liked him. Cedric's death upsets Harry because Harry feels that Cedric's death is his fault. One of Harry's more common coping mechanisms for guilt is to take it out on everyone around him.
** And I think that Sirius' death made Harry realize that it's more than him, hence less whining. It lasted almost until the start of the next book.
* He's lost any trust he ever had in established procedure and authority... which admittedly wasn't much. When said authority tells him stuff like "be nice" and "don't torture people", he's less likely to listen than before.
* PTSD. In addition to the things already mentioned (having a psychopath trying to kill him, and killing all his loved ones, and having a direct link into said psychopath's brain), Harry spent the first 13 years of his life in a physically and emotionally abusive family, and is basically the wizarding world's equivilant of a child celebrity. Really, it's a miracle that he isn't MORE messed up than he is.
* I think the Potter Puppet Pals summed it up the best:

Harry: My parents are dead, my life sucks, I can't hold down a girlfriend, and I'm surrounded by f**king goblins and sh*t all the time! I mean, what the f*ck?!?

* Indeed. In the final book, he's got intense support from a number of different factions, and he doesn't bother to even say "thank you" when someone helps him. He's arrogant and ungrateful and pretty much a jerk.
* While all the rationales for him being a jerk are fair, I think that a part of Harry's problems is that he tends to react to stress by introverting and becoming hostile to those around him (even those who are his friends and mean well). It's part of what makes the characters interesting in that, for the most part, they all have good and bad parts to them.
Wow, that's pretty much everything I was thinking.
 

SmartIdiot

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Um. He should've found better hiding places for all his artifacts? And not made Harry one of them.
 

Duskwaith

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Can we all agree the last book was pretty ballsed up.

She killed of random charaters,harry+Ginny?Like seriously isnt she like 12 in the 2nd movie?

Back on the topic of killing Harry...

"ohh Harry here comes an owl for you!"
"Oh golly i wonder what it could be!? It seems to be makeing some ticking noi..."
*KAPLEWY!!*

Sorted in 3 lines and not 3 books.

Is it just me or are the movies just becoming more and more meh because everyones read the books and pretty much knows whats going to happen anyway.
 

RobCoxxy

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Well, in all fairness, he did kill that little piss Potter in the last book. But seriously.

"oh, you don't have to die, Harry, it's ok, go on, go live again."

Seriously! WHAT THE HELL!
 

Cama Zots

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Why didn't the Death Eaters just use their magical powers to take over a nuclear missile and bring it back to the wizard world? Nuke whatever they want and reduce Hogwarts to a post-apocalyptic trash heap. Would have made their lives a hell of a lot easier if they just stole some guns too, none of this "say the spell" crap, just shot the guy and watch him try to counter that!