What was the game that proved you had the last functioning brain amoung all humans?

[Slayer_2]

Not a game per say, but a mod. Goddamn Day Z. So overhyped, so I got it to see what all the fuss is about. Even ignoring the rather annoying and gameplay-destroying glitches that come with ARMA II's engine, the community seems to hold a "shoot first, ask questions never" mindset. It's not realistic or fun. And don't dare ask for a PvE server! You fucking noob! I hope that in a zombie apocalypse we wouldn't all start shooting each other, but according to Day Z we would. When I complain about it, all I get is "it's all about the PvP, the zombies are just scenery". Those people should go play Call of Duty if all they want is shooting people. Or you know, original ARMA 2 if you love realism. Being a huge realism fan, I find the claims that Day Z is a realistic portrayal of what would happen in a zombie apocalypse absolutely mind-blowing. Of course I'd shoot an innocent unarmed man over a can of coke, that's totally realistic... The only friendly survivors I've met are ones without weapons, and only then because they couldn't punch me thanks to the lack of melee.

 

[aguspal]

Not a game per say, but a mod. Goddamn Day Z. So overhyped, so I got it to see what all the fuss is about. Even ignoring the rather annoying and gameplay-destroying glitches that come with ARMA II's engine, the community seems to hold a "shoot first, ask questions never" mindset. It's not realistic or fun. And don't dare ask for a PvE server! You fucking noob! I hope that in a zombie apocalypse we wouldn't all start shooting each other, but according to Day Z we would. When I complain about it, all I get is "it's all about the PvP, the zombies are just scenery". Those people should go play Call of Duty if all they want is shooting people. Or you know, original ARMA 2 if you love realism. Being a huge realism fan, I find the claims that Day Z is a realistic portrayal of what would happen in a zombie apocalypse absolutely mind-blowing. Of course I'd shoot an innocent unarmed man over a can of coke, that's totally realistic... The only friendly survivors I've met are ones without weapons, and only then because they couldn't punch me thanks to the lack of melee.

LOL that game looks absolutly hilarious and funny, I should probably try it someday.
Althougt its a mod for another game... I should get the main game and then mod it.. ugh, too much work, sadly

 

[3quency]

I would say no games, because my faith in humanity extends beyond excitement about a videogame I don't like.

 

[Nalgas D. Lemur]

Alpha protocol had better dialogue and characters than Deus Ex HR , yet people bashed Alpha protocol to death .

There are many opinions I agree with so far in this thread, but none as much as this. DE:HR was such a letdown after having played Alpha Protocol that I couldn't even bring myself to finish it. Even as fundamentally broken in some ways as AP was, the things in it that worked were just so good that they made up for everything else for me. If there's one thing Obsidian knows how to do, it's create games with engaging stories and interesting characters.

Oh, and it didn't hurt that AP let me actually punch people in the face, while in DE:HR that was not an option, even with my crazy cyborg arms. What's that, you say? I have to reload my non-lethal run from my last save again because I can't have a goddamn punch button in case of emergencies? Fuck you, game. I have better things to do with my time. Heh.

 

[direkiller]

3. Fallout: New Vegas - It was missing the charm from F3. The atmosphere took a pretty deep hit by transitioning to the desert.

I think they just the lack of memorable villages/towns

Fo:3
had a town built around an atomic bomb
the republic of Dave
a town run by children

Falout NV the only town that stands out off the top of my head is Jacobs town.

 

[White_Lama]

I'll be darned, another thread where the OP complains about Skyrim, either there's been a higher amount of these in the last days or I've just accidently come across them more often.
Seems everyone has been starting to hate on it recently.

Also I like how everyone pretty much assumes that every single Skyrim player had a bug/glitchfest every time they play it.

I have had the game since the release night, been playing it since, 10ish or so characters, done everything in the game (DLCs included), about 500ish hours total gametime, still love the game, will keep playing it and I have NOT encountered any bug nor glitch in the game WHAT SO EVER so far.

I tried CoD Black Ops once. My friends: "OMG SHOOTERS FUN GUNSBULLETSBOOOM!!" This was my experience, in a nutshell:

Log in.

Killed by a sniper within 12 seconds.
Respawn.
Killed by same sniper.
Bunch of middle school kids call everyone gay.
Respawn.
Walk 10 feet from spawn point.
Shotgunner kills my "Gay noob ass" (quote).
Nearly manage to kill someone. I'm not entirely sure if that twitching back and forth maneuver that some shooter players do is a tactic to dodge bullets or just lag. Get killed again by a grown ass man talking about whooping my gay teenage punk ass.
Quit, return game for a refund and get sass from some kid behind me bitching about how I could just return 'the best game ever'.

Congratulations for surviving longer than me and having patience to actually get as far as killing someone.

CoD hasn't been good since United Offensive.

 

[Richardplex]

I think you're the less intellectually inclined here for not knowing what Skyrim was about before succumbing to hype. Everyone knows that TES games are slow-burning games for explorers. It's obvious to me that you're no explorer.

There are, according to the Bartle quotient, 4 types of gamer psych traits. Achievers, Explorers, Socializers, and Killers. Any person can be made up of all or some or one of these traits. The type of person who will enjoy Skyrim must be at least over 50% in either achiever, explorer or both.

You can take the test yourself:

http://www.gamerdna.com/quizzes/bartle-test-of-gamer-psychology

That was one of the stupidest psychology tests I've ever taken. Seriously, for one the questions were pants on head retarded, and two, that has absolutely no standing outside an MMORPG. I got social of 87%, when I much much prefer single player games, it just so happens I'd only play an MMO with friends. Silly silly quiz.

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

The phoned in the story line, I mean the Protheans were an awesome concept in the original and then they just turned them into some random bad guys with fuck all explanation in the second.
The combat was shit, it seems technology regressed severely in the couple of years between games.
And the inventory/loot system was gimped to all hell.

Yet its seemingly the most popular game of the lot. Go figure.

While I can agree with the last part of your statement, the first I just can't follow. They said that the Protheans were harvested and their DNA was changed until they became what people know as the Collectors. The Protheans didn't all become the Collectors, a part of them did. There was an explanation, you just weren't paying attention. They streamlined the game, they didn't gimp it. Technology changed in the years between ME1 and ME2. Bioware figured that people didn't like overheating guns, so they made a universal magazine type system. Frankly, if they'd have kept the overheating system while at the same time taking out weapon modifications, that would have gimped the game. Yes, there were less inventory items, but they made up for it by expanding the actual powers and what they do. Frankly, I'd rather have that than having 80 million different pairs of trousers.

 

[Soopy]

The phoned in the story line, I mean the Protheans were an awesome concept in the original and then they just turned them into some random bad guys with fuck all explanation in the second.
The combat was shit, it seems technology regressed severely in the couple of years between games.
And the inventory/loot system was gimped to all hell.

Yet its seemingly the most popular game of the lot. Go figure.

While I can agree with the last part of your statement, the first I just can't follow. They said that the Protheans were harvested and their DNA was changed until they became what people know as the Collectors. The Protheans didn't all become the Collectors, a part of them did. There was an explanation, you just weren't paying attention. They streamlined the game, they didn't gimp it. Technology changed in the years between ME1 and ME2. Bioware figured that people didn't like overheating guns, so they made a universal magazine type system. Frankly, if they'd have kept the overheating system while at the same time taking out weapon modifications, that would have gimped the game. Yes, there were less inventory items, but they made up for it by expanding the actual powers and what they do. Frankly, I'd rather have that than having 80 million different pairs of trousers.

I just found the explanation behind the Protheans to be very lacking. They set it up to be so much more interesting. I think they should have almost remained a mystery.

The weapon "ammo" addition just made no sense. It would have made more sense IMO to go keep the unlimited ammo guns, but use the heat sinks to increase the fire rate/damage rating of the gun while it was in use.

The trousers thing... Each to their own. I liked being able to pick and choose.

 

[sethisjimmy]

I'll agree with the OP's Skyrim nod and add Fallout 3 as well. Giant piles of boring, both of them. I honestly have no idea what enjoyment can be gained from either of these games. 90% of both games was travel. Not interesting travel, mind you, walking around empty deserted worlds/wastelands to get to the next objective... followed by a few minutes of boring, bland, unimaginative, clunky combat. Then it's back to the traveling.

NO THANKS, BETHESDA.

Oh so much this.

Fallout 3 is the EPITOME of overrated shit, people go on about how great it is.

FALLOUT 3 is the fucking TWILIGHT of video games, everybody in the game is fucking retarded, and I mean EVERYBODY. Lets start with the more obvious plot holes.

1. Why would the lone wanderer?s dad install a water purifier at the basin of a river instead of upriver?! Instead of having free flowing water, the Brotherhood of Steel need to SEND WELL PROTECTED CARAVANS ACROSS THE FUCKING WASTELAND, this is both EXTREMELY inefficient and EVEN MORE FUCKING DANGEROUS.

2. How did a fucking SCIENTIST not realize water can be purified through filtration, no, it won?t remove ALL the radiation, but it?s going to do lot more fucking good in the mean time.

3. The Super mutants have no leader, how do they use FEV despite BEING SO FUCKING DUMB THEY HAVE TROUBLE WITH EVEN A FEW WORDS.

4. The G.E.C.K. is NOT a fucking terraformer, it is a farming kit. Hell, the robot at the lone wanderer?s home can pull mousture out of the fucking air, why not distribute THAT to various settlements.

5. People developed agriculture a CENTURY ago in Fallout 1, whereas in Fallout 3 it would kill people, as the people in the east coast are apparently allergic to common sense.

6. Why are there towns of TWO people who would never logically survive on their own!? Who supplies them?! How does ONE mutant cow provide for them?! Where do they get their drinking water?! Why have the raiders not fucking killed them and taken their shit despite them having little-to-no defenses.

7. Megaton was built around a bomb, in 200 years NO ONE has tried to fucking disarm it.

8. RAIDERS! RAIDERS EVERYWHERE! AND THEY OUTNUMBER THE FUCKING TARGETS 50-1, WHY HAVE THEY NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

9. WHY HAVE THE SUPER MUTANTS NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

10. Why is there only music from the 1950s?! Fallout takes place in a world based on 1950s sci-fi science! world. The Fallout world developed in a different direction from the real world, it did NOT halt all fucking development, including in the music industry.

11. Why did Tenpenny want to destroy Megaton? He calls it ?ugly?, but it?s NOT EVEN VISIBLE FROM HIS BALCONY. They?re not competition for his own business or of a rival philosophy.

12. Little Lamplight, teenagers tend to be more rebellious, why has one not simply beat up the mayor and changed it?s ?no adults allowed? rule in 200 years.

13. How the hell have mutants not obliterated Little Lamplight, not super mutants, REGULAR MUTANTS. The children of Little Lamplight are apparently more qualified to hunt than all the fucking adults.

And that's just the story, now for the gameplay.

Exploration: For a game about exploration, it sure as shit has a problem with a fucking LACK OF THINGS TO EXPLORE. See one shitty metro/sewer, you've seen them all.

Combat: The combat is HORRIBLE, the A.I. is as mentally retarded as the writers, V.A.T.S. didn't exist in previous games, you know what aiming at specific limbs was in-universe? EXACTLY THAT! The play character aiming at an enemy's limbs, and exactly how does the fucking Pip-boy help you aim?

Graphics: People go on about how great the graphics are, frankly I prefer the previous games, even those had better graphics and animation. The animations in particular are fucking HORRIBLE.

Atmosphere: IT. HAS. NONE. Little Lamplight is the best example of Bethesda's idiocy.

The only good thing is the mods, and even then there's only so much you fix through modding.

There's no point in poking plot holes in a Fallout game. It's an inherently unrealistic series with plenty of exaggerated characters and plot points. The fun comes from the suspension of disbelief.
The game has plenty of atmosphere, and the exploration is one of the best points, the world is filled to the brim with interesting places and scenarios, which are chock full of references to other sci-fi and post apocalyptic fiction.
I'll give you the combat and graphics though. The graphics are pretty bland most of the time, and the combat is a clunky mix between turn based and fps, but if you imagine it as a turn based game, in which you have a certain amount of AP and when that runs out it becomes the enemies turn, because you are essentially poorly defensed at that point, it makes for a fun game.

 

[Slayer_2]

LOL that game looks absolutly hilarious and funny, I should probably try it someday.
Althougt its a mod for another game... I should get the main game and then mod it.. ugh, too much work, sadly

I'd recommend you avoid it unless you like games like Call of Duty: finding your gun while other people shoot at you edition

Fallout: New Vegas - It was missing the charm from F3. The atmosphere took a pretty deep hit by transitioning to the desert.

Also that, Fallout NV was such a disappointment after Fallout 3, I couldn't even play 10 hours of it before I got bored. Atmosphere = nonexistent.

 

[Dreadman75]

I'll agree with the OP's Skyrim nod and add Fallout 3 as well. Giant piles of boring, both of them. I honestly have no idea what enjoyment can be gained from either of these games. 90% of both games was travel. Not interesting travel, mind you, walking around empty deserted worlds/wastelands to get to the next objective... followed by a few minutes of boring, bland, unimaginative, clunky combat. Then it's back to the traveling.

NO THANKS, BETHESDA.

Oh so much this.

Fallout 3 is the EPITOME of overrated shit, people go on about how great it is.

FALLOUT 3 is the fucking TWILIGHT of video games, everybody in the game is fucking retarded, and I mean EVERYBODY. Lets start with the more obvious plot holes.

1. Why would the lone wanderer?s dad install a water purifier at the basin of a river instead of upriver?! Instead of having free flowing water, the Brotherhood of Steel need to SEND WELL PROTECTED CARAVANS ACROSS THE FUCKING WASTELAND, this is both EXTREMELY inefficient and EVEN MORE FUCKING DANGEROUS.

2. How did a fucking SCIENTIST not realize water can be purified through filtration, no, it won?t remove ALL the radiation, but it?s going to do lot more fucking good in the mean time.

3. The Super mutants have no leader, how do they use FEV despite BEING SO FUCKING DUMB THEY HAVE TROUBLE WITH EVEN A FEW WORDS.

4. The G.E.C.K. is NOT a fucking terraformer, it is a farming kit. Hell, the robot at the lone wanderer?s home can pull mousture out of the fucking air, why not distribute THAT to various settlements.

5. People developed agriculture a CENTURY ago in Fallout 1, whereas in Fallout 3 it would kill people, as the people in the east coast are apparently allergic to common sense.

6. Why are there towns of TWO people who would never logically survive on their own!? Who supplies them?! How does ONE mutant cow provide for them?! Where do they get their drinking water?! Why have the raiders not fucking killed them and taken their shit despite them having little-to-no defenses.

7. Megaton was built around a bomb, in 200 years NO ONE has tried to fucking disarm it.

8. RAIDERS! RAIDERS EVERYWHERE! AND THEY OUTNUMBER THE FUCKING TARGETS 50-1, WHY HAVE THEY NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

9. WHY HAVE THE SUPER MUTANTS NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

10. Why is there only music from the 1950s?! Fallout takes place in a world based on 1950s sci-fi science! world. The Fallout world developed in a different direction from the real world, it did NOT halt all fucking development, including in the music industry.

11. Why did Tenpenny want to destroy Megaton? He calls it ?ugly?, but it?s NOT EVEN VISIBLE FROM HIS BALCONY. They?re not competition for his own business or of a rival philosophy.

12. Little Lamplight, teenagers tend to be more rebellious, why has one not simply beat up the mayor and changed it?s ?no adults allowed? rule in 200 years.

13. How the hell have mutants not obliterated Little Lamplight, not super mutants, REGULAR MUTANTS. The children of Little Lamplight are apparently more qualified to hunt than all the fucking adults.

And that's just the story, now for the gameplay.

Exploration: For a game about exploration, it sure as shit has a problem with a fucking LACK OF THINGS TO EXPLORE. See one shitty metro/sewer, you've seen them all.

Combat: The combat is HORRIBLE, the A.I. is as mentally retarded as the writers, V.A.T.S. didn't exist in previous games, you know what aiming at specific limbs was in-universe? EXACTLY THAT! The play character aiming at an enemy's limbs, and exactly how does the fucking Pip-boy help you aim?

Graphics: People go on about how great the graphics are, frankly I prefer the previous games, even those had better graphics and animation. The animations in particular are fucking HORRIBLE.

Atmosphere: IT. HAS. NONE. Little Lamplight is the best example of Bethesda's idiocy.

The only good thing is the mods, and even then there's only so much you fix through modding.

...Now tell us how you really feel.

Let me ask you a hypothetical question: If Fallout 3 were published under a different title and was not related in any way to the Fallout franchise would you still be this upset over it?

In all seriousness: Just calm down. You didn't like it, that's fine. You can make your point without all the CAPS.

OT: Hmmmm...I guess the only experience I had that was even close to that could be with RAGE.

Honestly, I liked it. I really liked it. Sure it felt more like a tech demo than an actual game but for what was there...I thought it was really cool. This seems to contrast with a lot of gamers who really didn't like it because it lacked a story, or it just wasn't polished enough, or other such arguments.

I would never say I'm better than someone because I liked a game they didn't. But I did find myself more immersed in the RAGE world than a lot of people seemed to be. I guess I'm just weird like that.

 

[Dusty Donuts]

10. Why is there only music from the 1950s?! Fallout takes place in a world based on 1950s sci-fi science! world. The Fallout world developed in a different direction from the real world, it did NOT halt all fucking development, including in the music industry.

Fallout takes place in a world based on 1950s sci-fi science! world.

sci-fi science!

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

 

[Dreadman75]

Oh so much this.

Fallout 3 is the EPITOME of overrated shit, people go on about how great it is.

FALLOUT 3 is the fucking TWILIGHT of video games, everybody in the game is fucking retarded, and I mean EVERYBODY. Lets start with the more obvious plot holes.

1. Why would the lone wanderer?s dad install a water purifier at the basin of a river instead of upriver?! Instead of having free flowing water, the Brotherhood of Steel need to SEND WELL PROTECTED CARAVANS ACROSS THE FUCKING WASTELAND, this is both EXTREMELY inefficient and EVEN MORE FUCKING DANGEROUS.

2. How did a fucking SCIENTIST not realize water can be purified through filtration, no, it won?t remove ALL the radiation, but it?s going to do lot more fucking good in the mean time.

3. The Super mutants have no leader, how do they use FEV despite BEING SO FUCKING DUMB THEY HAVE TROUBLE WITH EVEN A FEW WORDS.

4. The G.E.C.K. is NOT a fucking terraformer, it is a farming kit. Hell, the robot at the lone wanderer?s home can pull mousture out of the fucking air, why not distribute THAT to various settlements.

5. People developed agriculture a CENTURY ago in Fallout 1, whereas in Fallout 3 it would kill people, as the people in the east coast are apparently allergic to common sense.

6. Why are there towns of TWO people who would never logically survive on their own!? Who supplies them?! How does ONE mutant cow provide for them?! Where do they get their drinking water?! Why have the raiders not fucking killed them and taken their shit despite them having little-to-no defenses.

7. Megaton was built around a bomb, in 200 years NO ONE has tried to fucking disarm it.

8. RAIDERS! RAIDERS EVERYWHERE! AND THEY OUTNUMBER THE FUCKING TARGETS 50-1, WHY HAVE THEY NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

9. WHY HAVE THE SUPER MUTANTS NOT OBLITERATED LITTLE LAMPLIGHT?!

10. Why is there only music from the 1950s?! Fallout takes place in a world based on 1950s sci-fi science! world. The Fallout world developed in a different direction from the real world, it did NOT halt all fucking development, including in the music industry.

11. Why did Tenpenny want to destroy Megaton? He calls it ?ugly?, but it?s NOT EVEN VISIBLE FROM HIS BALCONY. They?re not competition for his own business or of a rival philosophy.

12. Little Lamplight, teenagers tend to be more rebellious, why has one not simply beat up the mayor and changed it?s ?no adults allowed? rule in 200 years.

13. How the hell have mutants not obliterated Little Lamplight, not super mutants, REGULAR MUTANTS. The children of Little Lamplight are apparently more qualified to hunt than all the fucking adults.

And that's just the story, now for the gameplay.

Exploration: For a game about exploration, it sure as shit has a problem with a fucking LACK OF THINGS TO EXPLORE. See one shitty metro/sewer, you've seen them all.

Combat: The combat is HORRIBLE, the A.I. is as mentally retarded as the writers, V.A.T.S. didn't exist in previous games, you know what aiming at specific limbs was in-universe? EXACTLY THAT! The play character aiming at an enemy's limbs, and exactly how does the fucking Pip-boy help you aim?

Graphics: People go on about how great the graphics are, frankly I prefer the previous games, even those had better graphics and animation. The animations in particular are fucking HORRIBLE.

Atmosphere: IT. HAS. NONE. Little Lamplight is the best example of Bethesda's idiocy.

The only good thing is the mods, and even then there's only so much you fix through modding.

...Now tell us how you really feel.

Let me ask you a hypothetical question: If Fallout 3 were published under a different title and was not related in any way to the Fallout franchise would you still be this upset over it?

In all seriousness: Just calm down. You didn't like it, that's fine. You can make your point without all the CAPS.

OT: Hmmmm...I guess the only experience I had that was even close to that could be with RAGE.

Honestly, I liked it. I really liked it. Sure it felt more like a tech demo than an actual game but for what was there...I thought it was really cool. This seems to contrast with a lot of gamers who really didn't like it because it lacked a story, or it just wasn't polished enough, or other such arguments.

I would never say I'm better than someone because I liked a game they didn't. But I did find myself more immersed in the RAGE world than a lot of people seemed to be. I guess I'm just weird like that.

It wasn't a bad sequel, it was A BAD GAME, SUCKING IN EVERY FUCKING AREA.

No, I wouldn't be happy because it would still be SHIT.

And what did you think of Fallout: New Vegas as a follow up by Obsidian.

It used a lot of the same mechanics Fallout 3 did. They are almost identical on a mechanical level.

 

[ServebotFrank]

Ah yes, because if someone likes something I don't like then they just don't have a functioning brain? So it's not because they had a different opinion then me? It's because everyone but me is an idiot? Love that logic bros.

OT: I'm not going to go OT. I think this is just another thread for people to rage about how they alone are right about opinions.

 

[Baron_Rouge]

I don't think any game has done that. I certainly don't have the last functioning brain among humans. Plenty of other people have very well functioning brains. The people who designed the many, amazing video games I enjoy, for instance. It'd be an incredibly arrogant and baseless assumption for me to assume that I was the last functioning member of my species simply because other people had different video game tastes than me, especially if I casually threw around terms like "opinion cortex", which don't actually mean anything.