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Bruin said:
Not to mention every one of these god damn travesties I witness first hand is an obsession-driven shitpile that results in both participants hating each other.Keepitclean said:
You know, I really fucking love how people assume that everyone who dislikes chemical reactions that can be replicated by eating chocolate is a moody emo prick. And better yet, they've all experienced it before and their achey, breaky hearts are so covered in scar tissue they can barely beat anymore.
Way to fucking project. And way to prove my damn point.
It's not important. There are many other things a person should drive for.
Not that I plan on doing any of that either, I've already resigned myself to being a parasite. But still. Not a big fucking deal. And everyone saying it is is only resulting in more lonely nerds thinking they're failing in life somehow if they haven't found their WUN TWOO WUV by the age of fucking sixteen.
Besides. I'm incapable of meaningful emotion anyway. I put a lot of hard work into it and I don't plan to undo it for regular sex.
Which, incidentally, I'm also uninterested in. So there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to ever engage in this sort of idiocy.
I've had as many different reactions to those three words as I've had girls say them to me. There are three that jump out at me instantly.
1) May 5, 1997. You've heard of "love at first sight"? I believe in it. I'd been stood up for a date and met a girl at the bus station as I was on my way home. Just for the hell of it I asked her for her phone number. Called her at about 8 or 9 that night---we ended up on the phone until sunrise. On a Tuesday. When she had to be at school and I had to be at work (she was an 18-year-old high school senior, I was 19 and drifting along after my mom threw me out.)
Anyway, a good six hours in she says "I hope you don't think this is too fast but I love you." It wasn't too fast. I was with her for a year and still think of the day I met her as the day I stopped being an awkward, clueless kid and started becoming the man I would be today. Even though we had an acrimonious breakup a little part of me still loves her to this day---she was my first real love.
2) May 6, 1998. I'd just broken up with the girl in the previous item. While on the rebound I chatted up a girl I'd been friends with for a while. We ended up sleeping together---she lost her virginity to me (she was a month shy of 19 when this happened.)
Next day I'm at class (I'd enrolled at the local community college to take some classes) and I open up my email. It's from her with the subject line "sorry" and the body of the email simply said "i love you" No punctuation, no capital letters. And I wasn't ready. I tried to be...it was my attentions that short-circuited her orderly mind in the first place. But I broke her heart because I wasn't ready to love again and probably shouldn't have picked a virgin who'd admired me from afar for two years to be my rebound fuck.
The worst part? Her family loved me---at least while I was still around. If I'd had an ounce of sense in my head I'd have married her, had a bunch of kids, and lived happily ever after. But it's hard to have an ounce of sense in your head when your own heart has been ruthlessly shattered.
3) September 24, 2003. Met a girl online---she actually sent the MSN Messenger friend add after I and a guy on Fark had done some variation on the Dead Parrot Sketch (I forget the exact context.) We talked online for about three weeks and she, much like the girl in the first story, said "I hope I don't scare you, but I love you." Truth be told, I was waiting for her to say it first.
I was married to that girl for five years. At least when things were still going well, she was the most affectionate, friendly, sweet girl I've ever been with. And I still kick myself because I failed her. She deserved better than me---and eventually figured it out, ironically just as I was finally starting to whip my sorry ass into shape. But it was too late for her to have any faith in me.
1) May 5, 1997. You've heard of "love at first sight"? I believe in it. I'd been stood up for a date and met a girl at the bus station as I was on my way home. Just for the hell of it I asked her for her phone number. Called her at about 8 or 9 that night---we ended up on the phone until sunrise. On a Tuesday. When she had to be at school and I had to be at work (she was an 18-year-old high school senior, I was 19 and drifting along after my mom threw me out.)
Anyway, a good six hours in she says "I hope you don't think this is too fast but I love you." It wasn't too fast. I was with her for a year and still think of the day I met her as the day I stopped being an awkward, clueless kid and started becoming the man I would be today. Even though we had an acrimonious breakup a little part of me still loves her to this day---she was my first real love.
2) May 6, 1998. I'd just broken up with the girl in the previous item. While on the rebound I chatted up a girl I'd been friends with for a while. We ended up sleeping together---she lost her virginity to me (she was a month shy of 19 when this happened.)
Next day I'm at class (I'd enrolled at the local community college to take some classes) and I open up my email. It's from her with the subject line "sorry" and the body of the email simply said "i love you" No punctuation, no capital letters. And I wasn't ready. I tried to be...it was my attentions that short-circuited her orderly mind in the first place. But I broke her heart because I wasn't ready to love again and probably shouldn't have picked a virgin who'd admired me from afar for two years to be my rebound fuck.
The worst part? Her family loved me---at least while I was still around. If I'd had an ounce of sense in my head I'd have married her, had a bunch of kids, and lived happily ever after. But it's hard to have an ounce of sense in your head when your own heart has been ruthlessly shattered.
3) September 24, 2003. Met a girl online---she actually sent the MSN Messenger friend add after I and a guy on Fark had done some variation on the Dead Parrot Sketch (I forget the exact context.) We talked online for about three weeks and she, much like the girl in the first story, said "I hope I don't scare you, but I love you." Truth be told, I was waiting for her to say it first.
I was married to that girl for five years. At least when things were still going well, she was the most affectionate, friendly, sweet girl I've ever been with. And I still kick myself because I failed her. She deserved better than me---and eventually figured it out, ironically just as I was finally starting to whip my sorry ass into shape. But it was too late for her to have any faith in me.
Figure I'll butt in with my opinion.Monkfish Acc. said:
The whole 'concept' of romance/love is certainly not idiocy. There's only people who 'engage' in romance and love and present it to the world in a sickly, idiotic fashion.
I'd say that love/romance can be classified as an activity in most cases. You spend time with a person that triggers that emotion of 'love', whatever chemicals and chemical reactions they may be, in order to feel good. If you can understand the reality of the situation, the magic, excitement and 'great' feeling lessen, obviously, but you and your partner can leave the whole situation on fairly good terms.
I don't understand why you don't enjoy the feeling of romantic love/infatuation though; have you ever experienced it? It makes you feel wonderful. And it's legal.
Do people really care about what other people are, online? In a meaningful way. Not if you meet an 'idiot' and are pissed that people like that exist.MasterOfWorlds said:
The use of the word "'resigned'" in "Resigned myself to being a parasite" definitely raises suspicion of a typically ignorant teenage aspect. Although he seems to be almost entirely rational, and taking.. from my perspective and opinion, a realistic view on such and such.
OT: It was over the internet. Never spoken personally. Stereotypical ignorant online 'I wuv you so much' infatuation. Although the experience of it helps me empathise and understand, so I don't regret it at all. Although it did mold my personality into a worse form, I believe. Necessary though.
She hasn't changed so far, it's been about a year. Still emo, immature etc. I can't talk sense into her. Much too emotionally driven. And the lack of certainty about whether my emotions are being imagined or felt are making it difficult for me to effectively and consistently argue with emotion.
[sub]I don't love you, Dango.[/sub]MasterOfWorlds said:
I'd say yes. Presuming that if they haven't 'loved and lost', they could still potentially fall in love. Life experience.MasterOfWorlds said:
Although if it was an ultimatum.. I'd still say yes. It's a wonderful experience, usually. Romantically, at least. I doubt it's the same if it was love for a family member.
What's your opinion?
I don't think anyone has ever done it outside my family has ever told me they love me. Scratch that. I think an old friend might have said that he loved me way back in middle school. It was in the platonic sense though. We were really close friends. Damn shame that he moved away. I'm pretty sure that is what caused me to be such an introvert when it came to my feelings.
But besides that, nobody's ever told me that they loved me out side my family. That's okay though. I don't really love anyone right now anyway.
But besides that, nobody's ever told me that they loved me out side my family. That's okay though. I don't really love anyone right now anyway.
I agree i am not eager for it to happen either. Lol every relationship my friends have always end badley. Women have a tendancy to dump nice guys because there to predictible and dull so they run off and find the SCUMMYIEST men on earth oping for excitment then want sympathy when they relize it wasint the best choice. Plus i dont think i've met a women i can get along with. Plus get real sure love is important but one of the most important things? really? Na f that. Love yourself thats number one. Love your family. Love your friends. Love thy neighbor. Then worry about petty relationships that will inevtibly end. Or mabey rush to marrige and get divorced further ruining harming how sacred marrige use to be. This attitude is whats leading kids these days to feel they need a relationship when they dont.Love between a man and a women is not the most important thing in life . Get real.Bruin said:
Just because it hasn't worked out for you doesn't mean that it can't work out for everyone. Not that I don't agree with some of the points you make. As for the emtion thing, you obviously feel something if you get annoyed at the fact that people are, in essence, calling you an emo. Also, admitting that you've decided to be a parasite to a bunch of people online...not the best move ever. Luckily, it seems like most people in here are fairly tolerant.Monkfish Acc. said:
Again, I see some points you make that I agree with. I also see some that make me glad I don't know you in person. XD
I'm sorry that that all happened to you. I hate to see bad things happen to anyone, let alone decent people, and I've seen a few of the posts you've written and you seem to be a good person. On the upside though, it seems like you've learned some good life lessons from them.SimuLord said:
Although some of the things he brings up makes me think of another question. Is it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?
Its never happened for me. I mean heck, I haven't even been on a date with a girl let alone one telling me, that she loves me.
Although some of my male friends tell me they love me, but only in a creepy funny sort of way.
Although some of my male friends tell me they love me, but only in a creepy funny sort of way.
It's OK Dango, we here at the Escapist love you. XDDango said:
I'd even sing the Dango song if I knew all the words. XD
Absolutely, without a doubt, without question, yes. I've had my heart viciously ripped out on me a couple of times. And yet I'm still an unrepentant hopeless romantic.MasterOfWorlds said:
And I don't think I'm a bad guy---bit of a jerk, sure, and probably a little too old-fashioned and traditional for a lot of modern girls' taste, but mine is a gentle soul that I think is well worth a woman's love.
I'm kind of sappy and I was really sprung for this girl my freshman year of highschool. When she said it I almost cheered out loud in the hall. Instead, I asked her out and it was awesome.
With my wife I was the first one to say it. When I met her I wasn't planning on anything serious and I didn't want a girlfriend but she got under my skin. I went to a bar for a guys night (I wanted to keep distance) and had half a beer before I realized what I had to do. I called her, told her I had to tell her something and said "I love you." She said "I love you too" and I went hauling out of that bar to her place at warp speed. Bartender was a friend of mine and he made fun of me, but he also comped my beer and told me to hustle.
Talked about it with her later and found out she thought I was going to dump her instead, so she was kind of in shock for a while.
All you young ones, you'll get your turn. Just try to remember the difference between "first love" and "love of a lifetime."
With my wife I was the first one to say it. When I met her I wasn't planning on anything serious and I didn't want a girlfriend but she got under my skin. I went to a bar for a guys night (I wanted to keep distance) and had half a beer before I realized what I had to do. I called her, told her I had to tell her something and said "I love you." She said "I love you too" and I went hauling out of that bar to her place at warp speed. Bartender was a friend of mine and he made fun of me, but he also comped my beer and told me to hustle.
Talked about it with her later and found out she thought I was going to dump her instead, so she was kind of in shock for a while.
All you young ones, you'll get your turn. Just try to remember the difference between "first love" and "love of a lifetime."
I'm the same way. XD I'm a little old fashioned myself. Gotten me into a bit of trouble here and there, but it's worth it. I agree with your answer to the other question too. No wonder I agree with a lot of what I've seen you post. XDSimuLord said:
Same here. Now if you'll excause me, this thread has reminded me that I'm still single, so I have to go play some BioShock.Jackalb said:
Hasn't happened to me, due to the fact that I've only really had one 'proper' girlfriend, and that was a ridiculously long time ago.
Only my family and a few dick "friends" just so they can see me get all flustered.
If I ever meet a girl who I genuinely liked and she says that "I love you,", I would eat my own socks and and unleash an endless torrent of happy tears.
Pretty ridiculous thought though. I, don't see myself as very attractive or all that strong. Just average. Everyone is pretty damn superficial around here in my neighbourhood. It's always the looks, never the personality.
If I ever meet a girl who I genuinely liked and she says that "I love you,", I would eat my own socks and and unleash an endless torrent of happy tears.
Pretty ridiculous thought though. I, don't see myself as very attractive or all that strong. Just average. Everyone is pretty damn superficial around here in my neighbourhood. It's always the looks, never the personality.