What was your reaction when...

[darth gditch]

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Eh, hasn't happened yet. I've managed to eff up before it gets that far.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Figure I'll butt in with my opinion.
The whole 'concept' of romance/love is certainly not idiocy. There's only people who 'engage' in romance and love and present it to the world in a sickly, idiotic fashion.
I'd say that love/romance can be classified as an activity in most cases. You spend time with a person that triggers that emotion of 'love', whatever chemicals and chemical reactions they may be, in order to feel good. If you can understand the reality of the situation, the magic, excitement and 'great' feeling lessen, obviously, but you and your partner can leave the whole situation on fairly good terms.
I don't understand why you don't enjoy the feeling of romantic love/infatuation though; have you ever experienced it? It makes you feel wonderful. And its legal.

Because a quick thrill is not worth the massive low afterwards?
I mean, jeeze, at least if I'm on heroin or something I have the benifit of knowing it's probably going to kill me soon. And it probably costs less.
Plus, I don't ever have to trust anyone. In fact, it's probably a good idea to trust no one.
Really, heroin is sounding like the better deal here.

I could not even enjoy the high part. I'd always have niggling doubts in the back of my mind.
Is it all bullshit, is she stringing me along, am I really good enough for her, is it all going to go down the crapper at a moments notice. Maybe when we do inevitably break up, she'll be bitter enough about it to ruin what little life I have left. And that is just off the top of my head.

It's just not worth my energy. I barely have enough for basic function, I don't want to waste it on something like that.

Just because it hasn't worked out for you doesn't mean that it can't work out for everyone. Not that I don't agree with some of the points you make. As for the emtion thing, you obviously feel something if you get annoyed at the fact that people are, in essence, calling you an emo. Also, admitting that you've decided to be a parasite to a bunch of people online...not the best move ever. Luckily, it seems like most people in here are fairly tolerant.

Again, I see some points you make that I agree with. I also see some that make me glad I don't know you in person. XD

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

Anyway, I never claimed to be incapable of all emotion. That would require more work than I am willing to put in when I can just drink it away.
No, just meaningful ones. I can get irritated. Actually, irittation is like my default state. I am pretty much ornery as fuck.

And it's not something that "didn't work out" for me. I've never done any of that stuff. I've just seen a lot of it.
My vitriol doesn't come from bad experience. It comes from a bottle of scotch and a stomach full of contempt for everything.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

I'm the same way. XD I'm a little old fashioned myself. Gotten me into a bit of trouble here and there, but it's worth it. I agree with your answer to the other question too. No wonder I agree with a lot of what I've seen you post. XD

Why do you keep using 'XD' in every other sentence? Are you happy? does it just feel right? Are you not thinking about it? Do you admire 'Simulord'? What's your age?

I'm curious, it'd be nice if you could answer.

The XD thing is more of a habit that I happened to get into for some reason or another. I'm a fairly happy person, and sometimes that's why I do it too. I also do find things amusing, so I use it instead of lol. Simulord is cool and I don't see a reason not to like him, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "admire." And I'm 19, although I'm not sure why my age would be relevent to this unless you're wondering how a young person like me can be "old fashioned."

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

I meant that you were admitting to being a parasite. And that that admission was to people who happen to be online.

 

[astrav1]

What was your reaction when someone outside of your family told you that they loved you?

I remember one of my first experiences with that was when I was talking to the friend of my friend's gf on the phone when I was around...12 I think. I know, it's odd, but that's the way it happened. XD

She said, "What would you say if I told you that I loved you?"

"...That's nice?"

I've been told "I love you." a few times by various gfs, but each time I told them that I liked them but I didn't think that I loved them. I can't lie about something like that. My current gf though...I realized that when I started having thoughts about what it would be like to be married to her and have kids with her, that I loved her and we actually told each other on the same night. Apparently we both realized it at about the same time. Funny how stuff like that works.

Congrats my friend. I have not had the same fortune with women. ow has the stuff with her father gone by the way?

 

[Bruin]

Yeah, we're all poets holding black roses waiting for September to end.

/Sarcasm off

You're prolonging and worsening your problems by running from them.

It's also incredibly silly to think you can avoid something so important in life. Not to mention it's masochistic and honestly it seems like a moody, angst-driven move that I can't understand why any person who cares about themselves would do it.

Or if they could do it, I should say.

Because if you don't try you can't get it wrong. Everywhere you go you read and hear stories of this kind of thing going wrong and how much it hurts. You can't really blame him for being discouraged.

Not to mention every one of these god damn travesties I witness first hand is an obsession-driven shitpile that results in both participants hating each other.

You know, I really fucking love how people assume that everyone who dislikes chemical reactions that can be replicated by eating chocolate is a moody emo prick. And better yet, they've all experienced it before and their achey, breaky hearts are so covered in scar tissue they can barely beat anymore.
Way to fucking project. And way to prove my damn point.

It's not important. There are many other things a person should drive for.
Not that I plan on doing any of that either, I've already resigned myself to being a parasite. But still. Not a big fucking deal. And everyone saying it is is only resulting in more lonely nerds thinking they're failing in life somehow if they haven't found their WUN TWOO WUV by the age of fucking sixteen.

Besides. I'm incapable of meaningful emotion anyway. I put a lot of hard work into it and I don't plan to undo it for regular sex.
Which, incidentally, I'm also uninterested in. So there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to ever engage in this sort of idiocy.

Then I think your vision of what love is is quite skewed from mine. Honestly I don't associate myself with people who can't hold themselves together like a mature individual. This generally is a precursor to being able to have a stable relationship.

I assume that nearly everybody who believes they can't or shouldn't love is disillusioned, rejected, socially awkward, inhuman or too wrapped up in their own self-pity, self-enmity, ill-founded external hatred, misanthropic angst or jealousy to see otherwise.

Basic human emotions compel us to mate. They also compel us to find partners for mating. Simply put; humans are programmed to "love". "Love" as in, find a suitable partner and develop an emotional bond to that partner so we keep making babies, therefore continuing our genes.

In a very literal and technical sense, I do not believe it is out of anybody's bounds to love. I try not to romanticize feelings like love, honestly. It's not some mystical, invisible force that guides us. It's a complex emotion in humans triggered when two of the species, of opposite gender, find themselves emotionally and physically compatible with one another.

That's not to say the sensation of it all isn't extremely good.

While I agree, love isn't the endgame goal of life, I see no reason to deprive yourself of it out of some moral obligation you've made with yourself. Honestly, your situation, at least how you describe it, seems to be the same scenario you say you disassociate yourself from. You're just arguing it on a more intelligent basis, one that makes more fucking sense for a change.

And actually, I think the media, the cinema and music has promoted the idea of finding a "soul mate" at such young ages. After all, nerds are people too--exposed to the same things. They bring this idea home with them and thusly onto the computer.

I react just as strongly when I hear somebody say they're going to make a pact not to curse. I think it's ridiculously stupid to set limits and bars for yourself--cage yourself up and pretend as if you can't get out when the key is right fucking there. It's frustrating for me--as somebody who likes to think of himself as more liberal than the average Joe--to hear another human being say something like that. It's not out of a hatred of the person, but of limits and cages. Freedoms are what we live for, and I cannot fathom why anybody would deny themselves something that's so basic, incredibly human and (despite popular belief) easily accessible. It's your choice--I understand your logic, though I can't say I would agree with doing it to myself. Which is why I'm even responding to this post in the first place.

 

[deonte9109]

I told my gf three weeks after dating that I loved her. Now it wasnt like OMG I love you so much lets spend every waking moment with each other, i made you sweater from my own tears of happiness. It was just a plain simple I love you at the time it was only mean to be that I love her as the person that she is and that she doesnt have to love me back. If she does great if not oh well. So when the time came that she actually admitted to how she felt I wasnt surprised when she said that she loved me too.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

What was your reaction when someone outside of your family told you that they loved you?

I remember one of my first experiences with that was when I was talking to the friend of my friend's gf on the phone when I was around...12 I think. I know, it's odd, but that's the way it happened. XD

She said, "What would you say if I told you that I loved you?"

"...That's nice?"

I've been told "I love you." a few times by various gfs, but each time I told them that I liked them but I didn't think that I loved them. I can't lie about something like that. My current gf though...I realized that when I started having thoughts about what it would be like to be married to her and have kids with her, that I loved her and we actually told each other on the same night. Apparently we both realized it at about the same time. Funny how stuff like that works.

Congrats my friend. I have not had the same fortune with women. ow has the stuff with her father gone by the way?

Oh, he still hates me. Although according to her, he hasn't ranted about me for a bit now, so it seems like he's slowly starting to become less actively hostile towards me. Maybe he's just saving up for when he sees me next. At any rate, he's slowing down, which I take as a good sign.

 

[Daft Sikes]

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

Well, there's the troll, who recieves joy from watching people spazz out over stupid comments or starting a flame war.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

I meant that you were admitting to being a parasite. And that that admission was to people who happen to be online.

Shut up, okay, I am drunk.
But yeah, it is not really an admission. I've said it in a bunch of other threads. Of course, it seems nobody ever reads through but me, so I could understand if you've never seen it.
I am actually pretty open about it. To hoard it away like some dark secret would be to even slightly care.

Well, there's the troll, who recieves joy from watching people spazz out over stupid comments or starting a flame war.

ANY OPINION THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED CONTROVERSIAL TO ANYBODY = TROLLING
YOU CAUGHT ME GOOD SIR
WHAT STAGGERING INTELLECT YOU MUST POSSESS TO SEE THROUGH MY CUNNING bluhhhhh.

 

[Free Thinker]

I haven't heard those words aimed towards me from outside my family. I hope to hear them soon...*sniff*

 

[curty129]

Figure I'll butt in with my opinion.
The whole 'concept' of romance/love is certainly not idiocy. There's only people who 'engage' in romance and love and present it to the world in a sickly, idiotic fashion.
I'd say that love/romance can be classified as an activity in most cases. You spend time with a person that triggers that emotion of 'love', whatever chemicals and chemical reactions they may be, in order to feel good. If you can understand the reality of the situation, the magic, excitement and 'great' feeling lessen, obviously, but you and your partner can leave the whole situation on fairly good terms.
I don't understand why you don't enjoy the feeling of romantic love/infatuation though; have you ever experienced it? It makes you feel wonderful. And its legal.

Because a quick thrill is not worth the massive low afterwards?
I mean, jeeze, at least if I'm on heroin or something I have the benifit of knowing it's probably going to kill me soon. And it probably costs less.
Plus, I don't ever have to trust anyone. In fact, it's probably a good idea to trust no one.
Really, heroin is sounding like the better deal here.

I could not even enjoy the high part. I'd always have niggling doubts in the back of my mind.
Is it all bullshit, is she stringing me along, am I really good enough for her, is it all going to go down the crapper at a moments notice. Maybe when we do inevitably break up, she'll be bitter enough about it to ruin what little life I have left. And that is just off the top of my head.

It's just not worth my energy. I barely have enough for basic function, I don't want to waste it on something like that.

Just because it hasn't worked out for you doesn't mean that it can't work out for everyone. Not that I don't agree with some of the points you make. As for the emtion thing, you obviously feel something if you get annoyed at the fact that people are, in essence, calling you an emo. Also, admitting that you've decided to be a parasite to a bunch of people online...not the best move ever. Luckily, it seems like most people in here are fairly tolerant.

Again, I see some points you make that I agree with. I also see some that make me glad I don't know you in person. XD

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

It seems he was just stating that people don't tend to like 'parasites', and that they'd probably flame you for it. He wasn't attacking you; look how fucking cheery he is.

And in response to my post; yeah, that's true. The doubts, they reduce your chances of love, if not eradicate them. Infatuation is still possible if you can portray yourself in a light that you yourself like. Otherwise, no, you'll probably never have any form of the feeling of 'love'. This is deduced from personal experience, so don't trust it. Although you wouldn't, would you?

Why not trust anyone? Sure, they can let you down, abuse their priviledges and take advantage of you, but hell, take a risk assessment. Can you beat their asses if they do screw you over? Are you entrusting them with anything that can significantly and inevitably harm your happiness?
Thinking about it all, I'm taking too much from personal preferences and experiences, so I'll end whatever point I'm making here.

As for love, like I said, if you go in with realistic expectations and are able to take rational views on the situation, then you can leave each other on netural terms. Possibly good ones. At least, you can yourself. I doubt you'd care if the other person was harmed from the seperation. Not that I'm judging you. Not negatively, at least.

There's no 'low', if you can understand that it was going to end, and that nothing's changed for the worse - If it technically has changed for the worse e.g. it's awkward at work, then that doesn't mean you can't change things for the better anyhow. Same goes for heroin, except you're guaranteed to have a low. And well, it's not legal. Nor, if you care, going to get you a good first impression from people you meet.

 

[Daft Sikes]

Why on earth would I be a parasite to people online.
I'm a societal parasite. A cripple who lives off of benifits.
How the hell does one be a parasite to people online, anyway. Like, how the fuck does that even work.

I meant that you were admitting to being a parasite. And that that admission was to people who happen to be online.

Shut up, okay, I am drunk.
But yeah, it is not really an admission. I've said it in a bunch of other threads. Of course, it seems nobody ever reads through but me, so I could understand if you've never seen it.
I am actually pretty open about it. To hoard it away like some dark secret would be to even slightly care.

Well, there's the troll, who recieves joy from watching people spazz out over stupid comments or starting a flame war.

ANY OPINION THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED CONTROVERSIAL TO ANYBODY = TROLLING
YOU CAUGHT ME GOOD SIR
WHAT STAGGERING INTELLECT YOU MUST POSSESS TO SEE THROUGH MY CUNNING bluhhhhh.

Ow. Y'know what? I'll just shut up now. Nothing good ever comes outta my mouth anyway.

 

[Bobipine]

Love.
..
.
I think I only heard the actual word once.

The first thing close to the situation you ask about, I've been told "I appreciate you", on valentine's day, right after I finished my lunch, right before going back to the classroom (last year of high school).

Here's the real answer, rest is more or less ranting on the subject
I don't know what my exterior reaction was, but I know the first thing I thought about was pretty much "this is a bad taste joke". Being valentine's day made me even more suspicious of being tricked by my friends, and since I just finished eating and whatnot I didn't felt like analyzing much conversations so I just went ahead on my way. Turns out it was sincere, problem is, I still didn't quite knew how to react and tried to turn down the proposition without much awkwardness as gently possible.

Ranting
Second time I guess
This is pretty much the actual 'Love' time. Well the same person a bit later.
After now having spent 1 full year questioning the details of the emotion called love, there is this girl I've been interested in for a while now, which I was friend with, who is now single, and soon after the news of that, I've even been 'reminded' of that interest thanks to drunk friends knowing she was single.

Long story short, in one of the online discussions with said girl, I've eventually see "I wuv you". Due to all recent events, try to analyze it as well as I can, need to let my brother use the computer so I can't really clarify things right away and over analyze the whole thing, letting my pessimist side win and decide it meant, "as friend" scenario. Which probably was the case, hope it was not a mistake I've made, considering she later said I made her happy, and I was a gentlemen, not like it matter now anyway.
.
..
...
Now where does that leave me? well obvious cute couples irritates me a lot and sometimes cringe and I now wonder if I even see myself in one. It'll pass, eventually.

 

[elilupe]

The only time its happened when me and the other person were old enough to know what the fuck we were talking about was by someone who lives far away, who I could not see, and who I loved back. So it was in one way nice to know they felt the same way, in another sense not so nice to know I couldn't see her either way.

Hey same with me! Sucks dont it...

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

It seems he was just stating that people don't tend to like 'parasites', and that they'd probably flame you for it. He wasn't attacking you; look how fucking cheery he is.

Yep, that's me, super cheery all the time. XD

Actually, it takes a lot to make me feel much of anything emotionally, but I try to be positive, even if it doesn't always work.

 

[curty129]

Love.
..
.
I think I only heard the actual word once.

The first thing close to the situation you ask about, I've been told "I appreciate you", on valentine's day, right after I finished my lunch, right before going back to the classroom (last year of high school).

Here's the real answer, rest is more or less ranting on the subject
I don't know what my exterior reaction was, but I know the first thing I thought about was pretty much "this is a bad taste joke". Being valentine's day made me even more suspicious of being tricked by my friends, and since I just finished eating and whatnot I didn't felt like analyzing much conversations so I just went ahead on my way. Turns out it was sincere, problem is, I still didn't quite knew how to react and tried to turn down the proposition without much awkwardness as gently possible.

Ranting
Second time I guess
This is pretty much the actual 'Love' time. Well the same person a bit later.
After now having spent 1 full year questioning the details of the emotion called love, there is this girl I've been interested in for a while now, which I was friend with, who is now single, and soon after the news of that, I've even been 'reminded' of that interest thanks to drunk friends knowing she was single.

Long story short, in one of the online discussions with said girl, I've eventually see "I wuv you". Due to all recent events, try to analyze it as well as I can, need to let my brother use the computer so I can't really clarify things right away and over analyze the whole thing, letting my pessimist side win and decide it meant, "as friend" scenario. Which probably was the case, hope it was not a mistake I've made, considering she later said I made here happy, and I was a gentlemen, not like it matter now anyway.
.
..
...
Now where does that leave me? well obvious cute couples irritates me a lot and sometimes cringe and I now wonder if I even see myself in one. It'll pass, eventually.

Fuck it; yay.
How old are you, by the way?

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

It seems he was just stating that people don't tend to like 'parasites', and that they'd probably flame you for it. He wasn't attacking you; look how fucking cheery he is.

Oh, shit.

Ow. Y'know what? I'll just shut up now. Nothing good ever comes outta my mouth anyway.

Sorry, dude, my bad. This is probably why I should not Escapist while inebriated.

Basic human emotions compel us to mate. They also compel us to find partners for mating. Simply put; humans are programmed to "love". "Love" as in, find a suitable partner and develop an emotional bond to that partner so we keep making babies, therefore continuing our genes.

Well, there you bloody go then.
Asexual. No fucking to be done by me. So no dang babies.

You said a lot and you made a lot of sense and so on so forth. But this is all I really have anything to say about.
So, my bad for not giving your full post the proper respect it deserves, I guess.

Not like it's a huge loss, though. I'd probably end up repeating myself a lot.
Same to you, curty. I've kind of hit that "time to pass out" stage of drunkenness so I am having a little difficulty with the information passing with the letters.

 

[Yingyangathena]

I have only been told 'I love you' outside my family in a platonic way by one of my friends, we were like sisters to each other actually, on the same wavelength.

It'd be nice though if it happened, I am just not looking for it yet, Uni and all that coming up, life and responsibility sometimes gets in the way of the good things.

 

[curty129]

I'm the same way. XD I'm a little old fashioned myself. Gotten me into a bit of trouble here and there, but it's worth it. I agree with your answer to the other question too. No wonder I agree with a lot of what I've seen you post. XD

Why do you keep using 'XD' in every other sentence? Are you happy? does it just feel right? Are you not thinking about it? Do you admire 'Simulord'? What's your age?

I'm curious, it'd be nice if you could answer.

The XD thing is more of a habit that I happened to get into for some reason or another. I'm a fairly happy person, and sometimes that's why I do it too. I also do find things amusing, so I use it instead of lol. Simulord is cool and I don't see a reason not to like him, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "admire." And I'm 19, although I'm not sure why my age would be relevent to this unless you're wondering how a young person like me can be "old fashioned."

It's easier to predict and compare various aspects/attributes when classifying by age. A sort of pie chart, if you will. A few people are incredibly wise, intelligent and experience, and are only 15 years old - You would not believe me. You'd be very skeptical until you met the person and questionned him, at the very least; I'm referring to a guy I once met.
It's always best to give the benefit of a doubt, but quite often you just have to assume, and using someone's age is a very easy way of predicting what they're like.