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Andy Shandy

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Fantastic, Grey and Cory.

Critical Miss is clearly the Citizen Kane of videogame webcomics.
 

Casual Shinji

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canadamus_prime said:
Casual Shinji said:
Actually The Last of Us reminds me more of No Country for Old Men or True Grit.
canadamus_prime said:
So all we want is ultra violence? Is that the joke? Also what's with the Invisible Man?
It's about the gaming world's obsession with searching for the Citizen Kane equivalent of gaming, so as to finally be deemed worthy by the rest of society.

At least, that's what I got from it.
Really? Was Citizen Kane really that good? I don't know I've never seen it.
I've never seen it myself, but at the time Citizen Kane was a pretty revolutionary film that greatly innovated cinematography and story structure. And it's still just kind of a darling of the industry.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Desert Punk said:
canadamus_prime said:
Casual Shinji said:
Actually The Last of Us reminds me more of No Country for Old Men or True Grit.
canadamus_prime said:
So all we want is ultra violence? Is that the joke? Also what's with the Invisible Man?
It's about the gaming world's obsession with searching for the Citizen Kane equivalent of gaming, so as to finally be deemed worthy by the rest of society.

At least, that's what I got from it.
Really? Was Citizen Kane really that good? I don't know I've never seen it.
Most modern audiences dont find it that good because we have advanced beyond what made it so revolutionary. Though it is a solid story.

But for its time it was amazing, the reasons for which I would have to go into an essay to answer, which...I am really not up for at this time of night. :p
Casual Shinji said:
canadamus_prime said:
Casual Shinji said:
Actually The Last of Us reminds me more of No Country for Old Men or True Grit.
canadamus_prime said:
So all we want is ultra violence? Is that the joke? Also what's with the Invisible Man?
It's about the gaming world's obsession with searching for the Citizen Kane equivalent of gaming, so as to finally be deemed worthy by the rest of society.

At least, that's what I got from it.
Really? Was Citizen Kane really that good? I don't know I've never seen it.
I've never seen it myself, but at the time Citizen Kane was a pretty revolutionary film that greatly innovated cinematography and story structure. It's it's still just kind of a daring of the industry.
But I still have to question why it's considered that benchmark that we need to meet. Putting aside the other question of why we feel the need to keep up with the film industry instead of forging our own identity.
 

Vale

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But I thought The Big Lebowski was the Citizen Kane of movies already!
 

impocalyptic

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So close yet so far. They'll get it eventually (the butts of the joke, not grey and Cory. Grey and Cory are awesome.) Although I have to admit playing as Charles Foster Kane in a Bioshock setting would be awesome.
 

andersgeek

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Man, whoever started this fucking comparison better not admit it while I'm present. Getting slapped hard will the least of their problems at that moment.
 

Ishal

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I laughed at this.

But I wish Videogames would stop being compared to movies. The two mediums should be going in different directions not having one trying its best to emulate the other.
 

Flames66

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Desert Punk said:
HAH! THat was awesome

And for those who are getting the same error as I am heres the punchline:


Love the cardboard cut out in the last frame, thats fucking perfect.
I still don't get it. Can has explanation?
 

Canadamus Prime

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Desert Punk said:
canadamus_prime said:
But I still have to question why it's considered that benchmark that we need to meet. Putting aside the other question of why we feel the need to keep up with the film industry instead of forging our own identity.
Because Film is the media we most closely resemble, we are nothing like writing, music, or performance art.

And the reason it was a bench mark is because it did so many things fundamentally different to other films of it time and changed film making forever. THAT is the bench mark gaming needs, a fundamental shift in how things are done for the better that will enhance the medium as a whole.
Except the video games are interactive and films are not. That's a pretty big difference. And thus I don't see why we should be using a film as a benchmark.
 

Legion

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The problem is that I have never seen Citizen Kane nor read any reviews of The Last of Us (except the Escapists).


I based it on the last image basically being "dudebro" cover art. I thought it was them mocking how they saw the white, gruff male protagonist and the female support character, but only saw the male protagonist (like they always seem to).

I should probably read some reviews and watch Citizen Kane...
 

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Ishal said:
I laughed at this.

But I wish Videogames would stop being compared to movies. The two mediums should be going in different directions not having one trying its best to emulate the other.
This is why I'm on the Suit's side rather than Erin's. Emotionally engaging characters are for movies, not games.
 

Flames66

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Desert Punk said:
Flames66 said:
Desert Punk said:
HAH! THat was awesome

And for those who are getting the same error as I am heres the punchline:


Love the cardboard cut out in the last frame, thats fucking perfect.
I still don't get it. Can has explanation?
Sure, I will repost the explanation I made earlier about it.

Desert Punk said:
canadamus_prime said:
So all we want is ultra violence? Is that the joke? Also what's with the Invisible Man?
Its not an invisible man.

its a Suit. People in charge of companies that are fairly faceless and bureaucratic are called Suits, they have no personality, all about the numbers ect.

And its not really about violence, it is about the fact that people are all comparing Last of Us to Citizen Kane in its impact and depth, and in gaming things have to be turned up to 11 and marketing says people like actiony covers acording to the folk that made Bioshock Infinite.

Thus its SUPER Citizen Kane, where Kane is
Holding his sled rosebud
over his shoulder like Dewit was holding a shotgun so the pose is more action oriented, and battlefield is a very popular cover as well so they mimicked that as well.
And sorry for double quotes, just wanted to make sure Flames got an inbox notification ^.^
Thanks, that makes slightly more sense. I don't really keep up with a large portion of popular culture (anything that isn't references to things I like or based on hats).

I like the suit though. I have been referring to them as suits for a while now, I also call what they do "paper" (in the most disdainful tone I can muster).
 

Zhukov

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Heheh.

Yeah, that phrase is getting pretty damn tired. I wish they could come up with a different way of praising good games, even if only for the sake of variety.

I've never actually seen Citizen Kane. Perhaps I should.
 

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
Ishal said:
I laughed at this.

But I wish Videogames would stop being compared to movies. The two mediums should be going in different directions not having one trying its best to emulate the other.
This is why I'm on the Suit's side rather than Erin's. Emotionally engaging characters are for movies, not games.
Well, crap. Text adventures just got WAY more difficult to write. Thanks.

OT: I wish they'd make "Citizen Kane" a game genre. I'd peruse it.
 

Casual Shinji

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canadamus_prime said:
But I still have to question why it's considered that benchmark that we need to meet. Putting aside the other question of why we feel the need to keep up with the film industry instead of forging our own identity.
Because the gaming industry, for all it's billions of dollars of revenue, still has a big selfesteem problem. And also still has the image of being toy manufacturers, and providers of shallow indulgence, thus nothing to grant any serious attention.

That's why so many games try to go all Hollywood blockbuster. As if to say,"See, see, we can be just like you. Can we come to your party now?"