What Were You Expecting? A Duke Nukem Game With A Deep Story And Complex Mechanics??
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I wanted Duke Nukem to be a little like Bulletstorm or Vanquish, two games that are insanely over-the-top shooters that to some extent, discourage the use of cover while encouraging combo kills and general badassery. I never expected Duke to have a compelling story; hell, the aforementioned games have shit stories, but their gameplay more than make up for it. Duke moves like molasses moving uphill against freezing wind, shoots like a drunkard, his ego bruises like a hemophiliac and takes just as long to recover, and the one-liners are just plain stupid.
No one remembers that Duke Nukem 3D, at the time, was just a generic FPS incorporating most of the modern FPS mechanics of that era - except with gratuitous sophomoric "humor".
And so, they complain when Duke Nukem Forever is just a generic FPS incorporating most of the modern FPS mechanics of this era - except with gratuitous sophomoric "humor".
And so, they complain when Duke Nukem Forever is just a generic FPS incorporating most of the modern FPS mechanics of this era - except with gratuitous sophomoric "humor".
Have you even played Duke Nukem 3D?Jangles said:
No one, and i mean no one, who was waiting for DNF was not doing so fro the story or complex gameplay. We wanted FUN, quick-paced, reckless shooter with interesting level design and silly yet usable weapons.
What we got?
Generic, cover based, slow paced, painfully linear boring shooter with overdone plot that seems to be more exposed than actual shooting. The game lacks pacing, the levels are straightforward without any reason to stray off the path, often even not allowing it or punishing you for trying, it has too many static gameplay elements like turret section or unskipable scripted events that prevent you from moving forward, enemies coming in packs of *gasp* one-two at a time, long periods where there is no shooting at all just moving from point A to point B through narrow paths, bad gun play that has no feel to it.. It's like they took everything that made DN3D enjoyable and changed it for everything that makes so many gamers go "meh" about current day shooters.
I think that this is an excellent testament to how far the FPS mainstream has fallen haha.Projo said:
Maybe THAT'S what they don't like.Jangles said:
Off topic: HORY CROW. CAPTCHA GONE WILD! We've gone to "SolveMedia" captcha, and now "wide berth" is literally dancing before my eyes!
It doesn't get much more clearer than this.AlternatePFG said:
Duke Nukem became a product of the current generation FPS shooter. A "CoD Clone" if you will. The problem was that people were expecting an old school retro game with modern day mechanics. Lots of enemies, you're character moving way to fast, ridiculous guns and giant complex maps.
Also, it couldn't even do a CoD clone correctly. It failed at being a copy cat. It has nothing to do with hype. If anything, the hype helped it. It's just a terrible game.
I don't think you caught the sarcasm in this....... Go back and play Duke Nukem 3D. Compare it to today's standards and what you expect out of a shooter. a $70 shooter. Tell me how you like it. If you are being honest you will loathe it. You will like it becuase it is Duke Nukem, and that is what I am saying.
Ya he hit a home run with his forehead and then be became a drooling paraplegic, in politically correct terms known as the modern warfare soldier.
Actually, I started playing 3D for the first time last Friday (got it off Good Old Games for 6 bucks) and it's great. I have no nostalgia for the series whatsoever, but it's a damn fun game. Forever has none of the things that made 3D good.Jangles said:
No, I was expecting a straight up rehashing of Duke Nukem 3D with current technology, and so far as I've seen that's precisely what they've given. The problem comes in the fact that when Duke Nukem 3D was big I was in my mid to late teens, but I'm not now and I no longer find that shit funny which is why I haven't bought the game or even bothered to play the demo. It's juvenile and immature and I just couldn't be asked.
1 - Yes people are being extra hard on the game due to the tremendously long wait. This is normal. Duke also got a lot of advantages to being highly anticipated and half of it's customers buying it just for the sake of having bought it.
2 - Complex mechanics? No. Competent? Yes. I wanted simple-but-it-works. Instead it was clunky-but-tolerable-sometimes
2 - Complex mechanics? No. Competent? Yes. I wanted simple-but-it-works. Instead it was clunky-but-tolerable-sometimes