What would YOU do?
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um, yea, shoot it down. Was there ever really a question there? what choices would you really have in such a circumstance?
Brickman100 said:
Threats? I never mentioned threats.J03bot said:
Shoot out the engines. That's forcing it down.
Maybe the hijackers will loose their bottle and go for a safe(ish) landing, maybe not. Anyways, the plane is no longer capable of reaching the target and the only way it's going is down.
Estocavio said:
Wouldn't you just be bastardized for not doing anything though? JESUS NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE FUCKED!
Sacrificing 600 for the sake of thousands seems like a no brainer to me. Not to mention the billions of dollars on the line.
Yep, this would be my course of action, as well. 90 minutes is loads of time for this situation, and, depending on the flight path, almost assuredly several areas in which a plane crash would cause significantly less devastation than the Hoover Dam.Guest_Star said:
No one has come up with any CRAAAZY way of doing it, you're all acting very logically... Come on people, now you have done the sensible option.. what is the most insane way of doing this?
you kinda just did people cant breath the air at 35,000 feetEstocavio said:
if you did it at about 20-15min then it would probably work(about 15000 to 10000 feet off the ground
shooting up the wings will cause a fuel leak but the hijackers probably will just nose it over into the desert
Although a 747 wouldn't scratch the hover dam the thing is just too thick (over 600 feet at the base and 45 at the top of Reinforced Concrete). Not to mention getting the thing down to a place were it can hit the dam would be nearly imposable.
Easy, you shoot it down. We already did this during 9/11. The fairy tale is that the passengers in the third jet rallied and tried to stop the terrorists which caused the plane to lose control, but according to most of what I've read we destroyed it before it got to DC.Brickman100 said:
Understand that 9/11 was a decapitation attempt on the US goverment, one of the reasons why I am a lot more militant about it even now than most people are (especially left wingers). If it had succeeded it had a reasonable chance of bringing the US goverment down, and causing unparalleled chaos throughout the world. The targets were the World Trade Center, Pentagon, and Washington DC (the target being the Capitol or the White House is unknown).
While emotional, such desicians are pretty easy, it's called "morality by the numbers". In cases like this you choose the lesser of two evils, the target hit here (whatever it is) is going to do more damage and probably kill more people (even if over time) than the 600 or so passengers lost on the plane. The desician is obvious for any leader who belongs making such a desician.
The thing is that "morality by the numbers" gets harder the bigger the numbers get, or if it somehow results in absolute destruction or genocide. Choosing to say kill ten million people to save a billion is the same basic thing, but it's increasingly harder to "pull the trigger" so to speak. One of the problems with big desicians is that it's human nature to hope for some magical solution to arrive and delay rather than doing what is nessicary.
There are various science fiction novels that get into the concept of "ethical genocide", heck even "Mass Effect" gets into this with the Rakni to some extent. The idea that wiping out something like Aliens Xenomorphs, or Starcraft's Zerg in their entirety is okay (or is it?). You can see this issue extended in some of the themes in series like the "Man - Kzin wars" (though I believe it never actually comes to that in the canon, though I believe in Star Trek the Kzin were mentioned to have been killed to a man in the distant past at one point as a sort of nod to Niven... it's been nerd fodder for a while), or a more "recent" book called "The Dark Wing" featuring a group of fanatical bird-men who surrender and periodically rebuild and attack humans to kill us all off. These elements are typically addressed in science fiction to of course deal with the contreversy of dealing with them in real life, where deciding to wipe out a culture on our own planet becomes something else entirely since we'd be talking about targeting our own species rather than aliens.
The bottom line is that it's not an easy thing to think about, but the answer is obvious.
Thanks for making laugh out loud in the middle of my office.Marmooset said:
OT - Shoot the plane down. It's the only sure-fire method of preventing catastrophic damage. But then, the twist in the tail: Manipulate the media so that instead of the breaking news being about the US air force shooting down a hijacked plane, I'd make it sound like terrorists with Stingers shot down an unhijacked (ie normal) passenger plane.
nuke it out of the air. Yes i mean flat out nuke it, that way the country the terrorists are from, arent upset. Because they had the most awsome suicide death sxplosion ever. And well that way the plane is vaperized out of the sky so no debree will fall (sort of).
If that wont work get a giant magnet. And pull the plane down to safety, and then send in a special forces team in to clear the plane out.
Now if that also fails, say fuck it. And tell the people who are about to die because of the dam. to make use of the next 90 minutes
If that wont work get a giant magnet. And pull the plane down to safety, and then send in a special forces team in to clear the plane out.
Now if that also fails, say fuck it. And tell the people who are about to die because of the dam. to make use of the next 90 minutes
Oh, you want a crazy, dumbass response.Brickman100 said:
Well, then - I'd continue reading to the third grade class i was visiting for twenty more minutes, then make a nice rallying speech a week later.
Then I'd attack Venezuela, because they might eventually do the same thing.