What would you have done in my situation?
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I'm gonna break this down really quick.Generic Gamer said:
1) I'd like to point out that I'm callous, but that's completely different from being an all-round prick, like he is.
2) I don't talk much. I don't worry about what people think of me. Blah, blah. I'm quiet. I didn't deserve shitty treatment, he decided to piss me off anyway. Shrug, callous.
3) I'd expect him to do the exact same as always, think about himself and only himself. That's what he always did, and he was incapable of viewing it from someone else's perspective. I can understand why he might deserve my assistance, but honestly? Fuck him. I don't give a flying shit about him, and he wouldn't give a flying shit about me. I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon and pretend he was a great guy.
As for your "protip". I didn't want reassurance. I was just wondering how other people viewed the situation
A dying dickhead is still a dickhead.
And my personal favorite is "Let me check something really quick. Nope, not a single fuck to give."
And my personal favorite is "Let me check something really quick. Nope, not a single fuck to give."
dying doesn't suddenly make someone a nice person, but still, I would at least donate SOMETHING.
an asshole's an asshole, but a human being's still a human being.
I wouldn't jump on the "HE'S SO BRAVE" wagon, but I'd at least feel a little bad for him...
No, cancer doesn't make him a hero, but... well... IT'S CANCER. if the guy's in school, that means he's at most in his mid-upper twenties. that's not even half of the average life expectancy (I'm goin by US numbers here, so around 75-80 something years old I think). Imagine that, your life isn't even half over, and boom, you're told you're going to die. Unless this guy was literally Adolf Hitler, I'd show a little bit of compassion. do you have to praise him? no. do you have to like him if he pulls through? no. would he do the same for you? who knows. but I atleast know that I'd feel good helping someone in need, asshat or not.
an asshole's an asshole, but a human being's still a human being.
I wouldn't jump on the "HE'S SO BRAVE" wagon, but I'd at least feel a little bad for him...
No, cancer doesn't make him a hero, but... well... IT'S CANCER. if the guy's in school, that means he's at most in his mid-upper twenties. that's not even half of the average life expectancy (I'm goin by US numbers here, so around 75-80 something years old I think). Imagine that, your life isn't even half over, and boom, you're told you're going to die. Unless this guy was literally Adolf Hitler, I'd show a little bit of compassion. do you have to praise him? no. do you have to like him if he pulls through? no. would he do the same for you? who knows. but I atleast know that I'd feel good helping someone in need, asshat or not.
It's human nature. As cynical as it is, a lot of the other people don't give a damn either, showing compassion for the terminally ill is the "correct" thing to do in modern society, however, and so people will fake it so they seem like decent people.
This is especially true when it comes to famous people, British people will know what I mean when I say look at Jade Goody.
Then of course there are those who genuinely feel compassion for all those who suffer, regardless of what kind of person it is, as well as those who actually like the person who is suffering.
As for what I would have done? It would depend on how much I liked/disliked them, I cannot think of anybody on whom I have met that I would wish something so horrible, but I also don't know anybody I dislike very much who has had something like this happen.
If they were really that bad a person, then I would have said that I wasn't attending, but in a polite and clipped manner, no insulting the guy, no trying to justify it.
This is especially true when it comes to famous people, British people will know what I mean when I say look at Jade Goody.
Then of course there are those who genuinely feel compassion for all those who suffer, regardless of what kind of person it is, as well as those who actually like the person who is suffering.
As for what I would have done? It would depend on how much I liked/disliked them, I cannot think of anybody on whom I have met that I would wish something so horrible, but I also don't know anybody I dislike very much who has had something like this happen.
If they were really that bad a person, then I would have said that I wasn't attending, but in a polite and clipped manner, no insulting the guy, no trying to justify it.
Indeed. If I really felt nothing for the person then I would have politely made an excuse for not attending.Sassafrass said:
I don't think I would have gone to anything like this. If I considered the person a friend I would, but not if didn't really know them or they were assholes. I would have said it in a good way though.
I have to say, you're good. If its someone you don't know, might not hurt to throw a few bucks I suppose. If it was a friend, then damn right you'd be there. But if this guy was really a jerk, I don't see why you should have to waste your time or money.
Saying 'He's so brave to fight through this,' really is something that the media pushes on us I feel. When death looms, it is common to feel bad for someone, no problem there. The strange thing is saying that they are brave. Well, not everyone is, but it doesn't really matter if they are or aren't is it? To cry or have fear of death isn't something I feel that should be looked down on, so essentially it just means that they haven't killed themselves.
I'm only looking at the term itself, though I know that what I just said is probably dripping with stupidity.
Edit: Looking at this again... There have certaintly been people that were rude to me for no good reason when I was a kid, but for all the dicks I've met, that doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't some good in them. (To their family and friends rather than my own.) The laughing may take it a bit far, but then again, I don't actually know how the guy acted so its probably not my place to say.
Saying 'He's so brave to fight through this,' really is something that the media pushes on us I feel. When death looms, it is common to feel bad for someone, no problem there. The strange thing is saying that they are brave. Well, not everyone is, but it doesn't really matter if they are or aren't is it? To cry or have fear of death isn't something I feel that should be looked down on, so essentially it just means that they haven't killed themselves.
I'm only looking at the term itself, though I know that what I just said is probably dripping with stupidity.
Edit: Looking at this again... There have certaintly been people that were rude to me for no good reason when I was a kid, but for all the dicks I've met, that doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't some good in them. (To their family and friends rather than my own.) The laughing may take it a bit far, but then again, I don't actually know how the guy acted so its probably not my place to say.
It sounds like the guy's a complete dick. Someone similar in my year (who I only ever tried to be nice to) got hit by a car doing 25mph, and I was crucified for shrugging and saying "Maybe it's karma". If he's going to be such a nasty person, what right does he have to your sympathy?
You could have been more sympathetic. I mean saying "No, its sucks that he has cancer but I still dont like him" would have been mcuh better then starting with laughter... even sarcasitic laughter.
It's hard to change who you are as a person when you're dead.No_Remainders said:I'm gonna break this down really quick.Generic Gamer said:
1) I'd like to point out that I'm callous, but that's completely different from being an all-round prick, like he is.
2) I don't talk much. I don't worry about what people think of me. Blah, blah. I'm quiet. I didn't deserve shitty treatment, he decided to piss me off anyway. Shrug, callous.
3) I'd expect him to do the exact same as always, think about himself and only himself. That's what he always did, and he was incapable of viewing it from someone else's perspective. I can understand why he might deserve my assistance, but honestly? Fuck him. I don't give a flying shit about him, and he wouldn't give a flying shit about me. I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon and pretend he was a great guy.
As for your "protip". I didn't want reassurance. I was just wondering how other people viewed the situation
Same, though I would have been nicer and voiced I didnt like him as a person.
As to if he's brave, well, he kinda is. Cancer sucks to have, and whiel I've never had it, I've had family who did and she was not even five. That was horrible. So yeah, he may not be brave, but it sucks to have cancer, and is definitely something hard to fight against.
EDIT: What you should have done was followed up with why you odnt like them, then said I hope he doesnt die.
As to if he's brave, well, he kinda is. Cancer sucks to have, and whiel I've never had it, I've had family who did and she was not even five. That was horrible. So yeah, he may not be brave, but it sucks to have cancer, and is definitely something hard to fight against.
EDIT: What you should have done was followed up with why you odnt like them, then said I hope he doesnt die.
ah, karma... remember kids, don't be rude, or you will get a TERMINAL ILLNESS AND DIE BEFORE YOU EVEN LEAVE SCHOOL.Enslave_All_Elves said:
yeah, this kid DESERVES to die in a horrible way, how DARE he act like a DOUCHE IN HIGHSCHOOL. THAT BEHAVIOR IS JUST UNHEARD OF. anyone who acts like a dick in highschool should totally DIE. and you know what pisses me off? babies. always crying, biting people, they're so rude and lazy. I WISH EVERY BABY ON EARTH WOULD JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE OF CANCER. THAT'S WHAT THEY GET FOR ACTNG LIKE DICKS.
*sarcastic rant over
but seriously OP? someone acts like a dick, gets cancer, and your response is "ha, never liked him, let him rot."?
dick move.
Cancer is a big thing guys, i understand that in the past he's been a dick to you but do you dislike or hate him? i wouldn't wish what he's got on anyone if i hated them or not. I guess no matter how much of a dick he's been to you, you should have been the better human being and have compassion for him at the very least.-Drifter- said:
But your not wrong to feel like that, Just thought there would be a bit more respect for your fellow man.
I would not expect or want anyone to come to an event in my honour or for my benefit if I didn't like them/they didn't like me.
And as for the 'he's so brave' thing, he's not. He has a disease that can kill him, doesn't make him brave for accepting treatment...
And if anyone thinks of flaming me, I had cancer and have been through it all, it's not great, but it doesn't make you a hero
And as for the 'he's so brave' thing, he's not. He has a disease that can kill him, doesn't make him brave for accepting treatment...
And if anyone thinks of flaming me, I had cancer and have been through it all, it's not great, but it doesn't make you a hero
I don't know about OP, but personally, I'd never expect people other than medical personell and my family - perhaps my closest friends - to help me get through cancer.Generic Gamer said:
There are a couple of people who are/were complete assholes to me, and honestly, if I got cancer and they then showed up at the hospital to support I would be confused as hell. I would probably even ask them to leave.
Edit: No, I wouldn't wish cancer upon those people, but I wouldn't give a flying fuck if they did get it.
You're a braver man than I, I'd just say "yeah" and be on my way.
I'd resent it, of course but only in secret.
I'd resent it, of course but only in secret.