What Yahtzee will hate in: Mass Effect 2

[cuddly_tomato]

Hating Mass Effect 2?

Not a difficult target to be honest. It isn't the worst game ever, but it is pretty average from what I have experienced.

cuddly_tomato, you are a pitiful man whose soul has dried up. I'm not angry, but rather, I pity you.

How does one get angry because someone else doesn't particularly like a video game?

On this forum, quite easily, apparently, heh.

Forum shouldn't really have anything to do with it. Anger implies an emotional attachment, to a video game company in this case. Of all the things one might get emotionally attached to, video game companies are not high on the list of things which are ideal for this purpose.

Have you bought shares in BioWare? If this is the case I could understand it. Or are you an employee of theirs? If neither of these... brand loyalty isn't healthy. Nuff said.

Meh, you didn't like it. I think BioShock was overrated - no game has ever pleased everyone. However, just saying its because of 'Brand loyally' is insulting, frankly.

Had he said something along the lines of "I thought it was pretty good" I would agree. Saying "you are a pitiful man", over a video game, makes a response difficult without seeming a bit insulting, although that wasn't the intention.

 

[Kinguendo]

How they took a TON of things out in comparrison to Mass Effect and yet it somehow takes up 2 disks?!

Also, equipment... why take away equipment?! Why not just keep equipment and ADD the fact that you can change the colour, material and pattern?! Those stupid pieces of equipment that you can tweak with dont make up for the huge amounts of actual equipment there was in the first one.

 

[LordGarbageMan]

Didn't want to read ALL the comments, so not sure if this has already been posted. No crouching annoys the shit outta me, as well as doors that decide not to open until I get two inches away from them, causing me to stop walking and wait for the five second open animation. Also the fact that you can't cast another power while one is recharging. And, obviously, scanning, although I preferred that to the mako.

 

[klokateer nick]

YAT-c will not like the whole game but specifically the ending sequence You All Know What I'm Talking About

 

[bossfight1]

He'll hate the cover system, that's for sure.

 

[Doug]

He's going to rip it to shreds for being a consolized shadow of it's former self.

-There are no more open environments. The game now feels like a series of half-life maps.
-The story is short (build a team. get a piece to go through a portal. go through portal and beat end boss. the end.) I need more twists and turns.
-There aren't nearly as many sidequests
-You spend all the combat sequences behind or frantically looking for, waist high walls. Gears of war syndrome.

1.The first one was like that too (I'm playing through it again) Also, HL was one of the few things he said he liked.
2. True, main story is short, but the characters (excluding Jack) make the game and their stories are more diverse than typical game stories.
3. I will admit this, but going back through the first one, 80% of the sidequests went like this:

- Get weird report/signal/tip
- Go to obscure planet with science station/colony/facility of some sort
- Find people to kill-
- Kill them, get tiny blurb that has to do with #1.
- Lament lack of interesting sidequests

Yes, there were a few that actually had significance, but those were few and far between and hard to pick out.
4. There are more chest high walls in this game, but that's not a negative in itself. It's hardly as bad as Gears, too. I found it to be about 50/50 normal cover and chest high walls.

Agreed. People who think its somehow become "consolized" really need to go back and play the original again. And bare in mind it started on the XBox.

And frankly, I'm a PC player and I think 99% of the changes where great improvements.

1) If anything, the environments where more alive, more detailed.
2) You're right about the loyally quests adding alot too it.
3) The side quests in ME 1 were truly bad - copy and pasting of either mission and/or the environments (seriously, how the hell does every outpost and colony have the same interior decorator?).
4) The combat is closer to Gears of War, yeah. But thats a good thing - better a good combat system than the 'ok but not great' combat of ME1. And there where still biotic powers and so forth.

 

[leviathanmisha]

Um, lets see here...
This is Yahtzee and he will most likely bash the game within an inch of it's pitiful existence.

 

[xDarc]

Agreed. People who think its somehow become "consolized" really need to go back and play the original again.

I did. And the sense of the scope and scale is no longer present in mass effect 2. Yahtzee had made a comment about ME1 relating to the sheer head crushing depth the game had that RPG fans love, while others don't. ME2 is tighter- but too tight to be a great RPG.

It's trying to still be a great RPG while improving the FPS/action and as a result it excels at neither in my opinion.

When I want to play a shooter, I play a real shooter. Online, competitively. When I want offline single player goodness, I want depth and I want to get completely sucked into the game world. I'm more than willing to overlook the clanky combat of ME1 because I loved exploring the worlds, running around the citadel (which really felt like a whole station and not an orbiting apartment block, the game's new show piece station- Omega failed at this too), tediously micromanaging equipment and getting lots of little side quests from random strangers.

There are a few improvements to ME2 I'd take over to ME1 as an RPG, but not at the expense of any of ME1's original features. I'd simply build upon what was already there and instead they just ripped out entire aspects of the game.

Put it this way. If ME1 was designed the same as ME2, I wouldn't have bothered playing ME2. Pretty disappointed with it and having felt like playing through it again. Waiting for BF Bad Company 2 to come out. Back to shooters I go.

P.S.

Did anyone else ridicule the idea of taking "rapid transport" in the Citadel to go somewhere that was just around a corner and down some stairs?

What a fucking joke.

 

[RN7]

The glitchiness. And pretty much everything else their is to nitpick at, because that's what he gets paid to do.

 

[lSHaDoW-FoXl]

So...Yahtzee pretty much told us what he was going to review this week in his Borderlands review: Mass Effect 2. And because he's Yahtzee, he's not willing/allowed/won't mention what he likes, so lets take a guess at what he'll hate.

Who wants to take the first stab and see if their right this Wednesday?

It's yahtzee. He might not even actually do the review - this might be another one of his clever tricks. If he does review Mass Effect 2 however he'll probably hate scanning - I didn't even play the game and I know he definitely will hate that part.

 

[RatRace123]

It'll probably be a copy/paste of his Mass Effect 1 review. Just replace Mako bitching with scanning bitching. And replace crowded combat with gears of war combat.

 

[Ian Caronia]

Really? There's threads for what Yahtzee will hate? *Scoffs* Fucking lame...

<__>

...I think he'll hate the loading screens and how the characters hardly interact. That, or how, unless you like looking like a ruined Terminator, the game forces you to be Paragon (unless he brings up how you can buy a facial scar healing thing for 50,000 Platinum, which would lead into him hating the scanning).

Fuck! My fandom just broadsided me!

 

[Nabirius]

I'm going to go out on limb here and say that Yahtzee will like Mass Effect 2 overall, but seriously rip on their stupid (albeit enormous) mistakes namely scanning and the fuel tank during exploration. I say this not out of hope (although I personally enjoy Mass Effect 2, that I will not deny) but mostly based on the fact that he 'liked' Dragon Age: Origins based on it's story and such over it's game-play, and Mass Effect 2 certainly has the awesome story in spades, and the game-play is greatly improved. Also it is important to note that he gave a tentative recommendation to the original Mass Effect (emphasis on tentative).

 

[Meggiepants]

Buying gas. If the Bioware programmers wanted to randomly siphon money from you (seriously, who thought this shit up?) they could have been a bit more clever about it. They could have had some hacker on the ship go all Gus Gorman on Shep's credits and slowly whittled them away over time. Oh dear... I've just referenced Superman 3. Well, my secret is out... I watch bad movies.

Obviously this and scanning.

 

[Sleekgiant]

I feel as if I should point everyone to go watch the Bioshock review again. Have you done it. No, well go do it. Now that we are up to speed I quote Yahtzee saying "Viewers don't like when I'm being nice to a game". No Yahtzee is not mean, he just does what you want, and that is poke fun at the game. I also like to bring up that he is a critic, so of course he's gonna find things he doesn't like. Maybe you like it but he doesn't. Does that stop you from enjoying the game, well it better not otherwise stop watching Yahtzee.

 

[RadioActiveChimp]

Hating Mass Effect 2?

Not a difficult target to be honest. It isn't the worst game ever, but it is pretty average from what I have experienced.

cuddly_tomato, you are a pitiful man whose soul has dried up. I'm not angry, but rather, I pity you.

How does one get angry because someone else doesn't particularly like a video game?

Have you bought shares in BioWare? If this is the case I could understand it. Or are you an employee of theirs? If neither of these... brand loyalty isn't healthy. Nuff said.

if you read what i said you'll see that i'm "not" angry. also, i have've bought shares in, i don't work for, and i don't have brand loyalty to Bioware (i didn't like dragon age). i simply pity you're lack of enjoyment.