What's so great about Elder Scrolls?

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Slayer_2

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I've never played either, and don't really want to. I dislike fantasy games, although I loved Fallout 3, and would apparently love Oblivion too (according to my friends).
 

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sievr said:
Honestly, Oblivion was not that great, and Skyrim looks like almost exactly the same game. I think most of the excitement people have/had for Oblivion and Skyrim were due to how great Morrowind was.

Don't get me wrong. I played more than 140 hours of Oblivion. I was a badass black chick with a ponytail and a hammer as big as an angry cow; I bought five houses, got turned into a vampire, and generally became a God, and had a lot of fun doing it. But Oblivion and Skyrim (as far as I can tell) suffer from the problem that other people mentioned before. It's ugly as hell. There's no imagination in the art direction at all, the character voices are samey and uninspired, and you lack motivation to actually care about saving the world.

Morrowind, on the other hand, was every bit as gigantic as those, and WAY more fun. There were hollowed out insect taxi cabs, wizards who invented flying spells and splattered against the sides of mountains, ghost assassins, giant mushroom cities, and the ability to get totally addicted to crack cocaine and join the dark elf assassin's guild. That game was the most exciting sandbox I've ever played, and the following games are still trying (and still failing, in my opinion) to live up to it.
When I played Morrowind, I accidentally turned my character into a god. That's my memory of that game.

Oblivion was a lot of fun, but a different kind of fun. I didn't like how they nerfed Alchemy (the skill I used to become a god the first time) but I liked how Unarmed was no longer tied to your Speed, and how Oblivion had deer, which are creatures that I actively hate. Oblivion gave me the opportunity to Paralyze a deer and then punch it to death. As an elf.

And that is why I love Oblivion.
 

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I'll throw my two cents in here even though everyone else seems to have explained it well in their own ways. Basically, I have no idea. I played through Oblivion's main quest and a good sized chunk of side quests. I kept hearing how great it was so I really wanted it to shine through. Basically, I never got that feeling. I was really bored throughout a lot of it and it just never got to me. The combat bored me and the world, while huge, just felt 'stiff' if that makes any sense. This didn't feel like an epic fantasy adventure come to life, it felt like reading a bad fantasy book. Hell, after saving the world from the final Oblivion gate, I was arrested! Seriously, I saved the world and immediately went to jail. WTF Oblivion!!
 

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justanote, NV is was developed by Obsidian, so thats probably why it's taken a different approach. on the whole, i thought the biggest difference was which kind of universe interests you more..oblivion and fallout are a couple years apart and the betterment in tech shows through in fallout. the games are similar enough that a fantasy guy is going to gravitate towards oblivion errytime
 

TheGamerElite33

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Nothing. there is something in elder scroll series always turn me off. and imo Skyrim is most overhype game this year
 

Kyle 2175

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As an RPG, Oblivion is terrible. It's a great game, but the RPG mechanics are poorly done. The leveling system is poorly done, and you basically need to take skills you won't use as class skills to be able to be more powerful than your enemies. The appeal is in the open world to explore. Skyrim looks to drastically improve the RPG side of the game, by using a perk system(like Fallout) and more sensible level scaling(like Fallout 3). Morrowind had a similar system, but due to lacking level scaling it worked fine, a bit grindy, but not bad. Daggerfall had an incredibly in-depth character creator, with the ability to pick out your own strengths, weaknesses, stats, starting equipment and reputation. Arena's more of a straight-up dungeon crawler.
 

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Blade1130 said:
I've been on these forums for at least a LITTLE while now, and I've noticed that in damned near every thread related to extremely good games Oblivion or Skyrim comes up. I've never personally played either, and I was wondering, why are they so great? Oblivion seems to be THE RPG that is apparently the greatest thing ever made, while Skyrim appears to be the second coming of Christ. I have seen a handful of trailers for both, and neither look that good to me, they seem quite boring, but clearly everyone on this site seems to love them. Again, I haven't played, but after everyone on these forums I'm definitely considering giving Oblivion a shot, I just want to know what makes them so great?
What do you play?
 

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Nothing. there is something in elder scroll series always turn me off. and imo Skyrim is most overhype game this year
I see your Skyrim and raise you a MW3.

OT - just try them out. You can only know what you're missing if you actually play the games.
 

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I can understand why some people like the Elder Scrolls but they are certainly not my taste. I played Morrowind and Oblivion back in the day and really wanted to like them after hearing so much about them. But I disliked both of them, I found them the least personal of any RPGs I've ever played. The big open worlds were great and the freedom was definitely a huge pull of both games. But the lack of any meaningful purpose or interaction just made both games a series of unrelated quests to me. I'm even tempted by Skyrim due to the hype and the reaction by the gaming community. But I shouldn't, I've been burnt twice before by the Elder Scrolls series.

I do find the hype surrounding Skyrim a little much but then that's only normal given my view of the series. Come early next year I'll be one of many hyping up Mass Effect 3 and the hype surrounding that may be too much to those whothink little of the ME series. That's the nature of hype, annoying to hear if you're not part of it.
 

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I am a fan of fantasy RPG so yeah, for me Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are all the best and best to be games. But I feel that it really depends on one taste. Example: I played Oblivion for two months and did not do anything conserning the main quest-line. I did become an Archmage, Head of Mercs, Grey Fox, Member of the sun order, Mad God, Listener of the Black Hand, Knight of the Nine, and more titles that I can't remember. Then I finished the game's quest line, bought houses in every city, got a maid, and carried on to experiment with thousands of mods. The game is just BIG. This is not Mass Effect-style RPG. This is THE RPG. And I hope Bethesda still knows what they are doing.

P.S. Oblivion was NOT ugly and anyone who says that it is must eat their own eyeballs. Oblivion could still give many modern games a run for their money.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Freedom. You are thrown into the world and told to go do something. The freedom that the games offer is the major selling point for me.
Exactly my reason for loving them.
 

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Blade1130 said:
PunkyMcGee said:
If you don't like the trailers. then you may not like the games. It seems to me by the wording of your post that fantasy RPGs aren't your thing.
You do have a point, Middle Ages era games were never my cup of tea, although I do like the Sci-Fi/cyber-punk style ones much better, ie. Mass Effect, Deus Ex, Halo. But I've been trying to branch out a lot more, exploring genres I never got into. For instance I've never been one for horror games, but I got Amnesia the other day simply because I heard it was really good. I still want to play Silent Hill at some point, where exactly can I get that now anyways? I also generally don't like Real-Time Strategy games, but damn do I love StarCraft, though that one isn't very recent... Let's put it this way, I'm not really into the fantasy RPG's like you said, but I'm trying to give it a try, and I figured the "best" one should at least come off as "decent" to someone who doesn't like the genre.
I definitely recommend Fallout 3 or New Vegas then. It is sort of sci-fi in the sense that it takes place in the future (from the point of view of someone from the 1950s) and features direct energy weapons and robots while still giving you the same feeling of freedom and exploration that Oblivion and Morrowind offer. Trust me, the feeling of being in a vast wasteland by yourself (for the most part) and surviving is great. Playing with Hardcore mode on New Vegas definitely sets the atmosphere.

My guy was always the rogue that would explore ruins for valuables and amass tons of wealth and from scavenging and then buying the most badass equipment and collect the most badass equipment to survive in the wilderness. I literally developed my own method for what constitutes as good loot and junk.
 

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sievr said:
Honestly, Oblivion was not that great, and Skyrim looks like almost exactly the same game. I think most of the excitement people have/had for Oblivion and Skyrim were due to how great Morrowind was.

Don't get me wrong. I played more than 140 hours of Oblivion. I was a badass black chick with a ponytail and a hammer as big as an angry cow; I bought five houses, got turned into a vampire, and generally became a God, and had a lot of fun doing it. But Oblivion and Skyrim (as far as I can tell) suffer from the problem that other people mentioned before. It's ugly as hell. There's no imagination in the art direction at all, the character voices are samey and uninspired, and you lack motivation to actually care about saving the world.

I really dont understand how someone could play 140 hours of a game they didnt like.
 

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Go to the Bethesda Youtube channel and watch the past 3 YouTube videos they've posted on the Skyrim playlist.

Imagine you are in that world. That is why.

For me, Oblivion holds a special place in my heart because it was the first Xbox 360 game I played. It was the most depth I had ever seen in a game and (despite what most people say) I was completely immersed. I played for 12 hours straight and I was seeing *press A to open door* everywhere I went in the real world.
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Because I can do everything I have wanted to do in real life. You know, like kill everyone with a bow when someone disagrees with me.
I envision someone crying while going on a rampage screaming "YOU MADE ME DO THIS"
 

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Forget about Oblivion, get the graphics extender, and play Morrowind instead. That shit will blow your brains D:
 

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The Elder Scrolls are essentially some of the most utterly convincing worlds ever constructed. The depth in lore is often staggering, and the sheer attention to detail present is usually unmatched.
On top of the freedom to explore these worlds, we're offered a chance to basically be unstoppable madmen - free to roam and do as we please. No game offers real freedom the way the Elder Scrolls do.
 

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Echoing most of the posts before mine, I will say freedom and immersion.
Oblivion was a good game, but compared the Morrowind I found the world a bit bland. Still I?ve played both games for hundreds of hours, and I?m sure the same will be true of Skyrim.