Well, as a JRPG fan, I'm still pretty much forced to buy a PS4. And let's be fair, when people talk about third party, they always mean Western 3rd Party, forgetting Atlus, Koei, or NIS exists. And, in the third party section, Nintendo actually does have fairly strong relations with those developers, given how many of their IPs Nintendo allows them to use.Aiddon said:
Well sometimes it feels like some games should have been a New I.P like the Zelda's for DS or Criterion take on the Need for speed series. Great games but hated by fans of the respective series. Also looking at how good Link between two world's was maybe they should've kept making more top down Zelda's with traditional controls.Aiddon said:
Oh, I think it's a perfectly valid criticism. I just think an unfair amount of the flak hits Nintendo of the big three-- and that a new IP can prove to be more derivative than a new instalment of an old one (and that that's often the case).Casual Shinji said:
Well, I certainly couldn't argue with more new things. Might even enthuse me enough to get the damn console.Johnny Novgorod said:
But Nintendo already does that. They only release one core game from their main IP's every console generation. Barring the New Super Mario Series where it's clear they reuse assets out the ass, they hardly milk their IP's as much as they could get away with. Like this kind of perception here is the literal crux of the problem. People want them to focus on more shit than Mario and Zelda and yet nobody-including people who have beef with them constantly doing Mario and Zelda- pay any attention to them when they aren't making announcements about the very IP's you claim they give too much attention too. How is that honestly any of their fault at this point? Again, look at the discussion around Splatoon. The most heated discussions about the game was over a long since irrelevant thought in game development to make it a Mario game and slamming Nintendo for even thinking about making it a Mario game when 1) They have literally said last year that when it comes making games they start with mechanics first and insert the characters if they match. If they are too different(in the case of Splatoon) then they make new characters. That's the process they go about in making games.gLoveofLove said:
Well third party had all the time in the world during the first two years where they were SUPPOSED to of made games for the Wii U but they ditched. I mean, last year it was lack of power and unable to compete with Mario. This year they just outright didn't care and even publicly stated that Wii U ports were gimped and are somehow surprised when nobody bought their shit on the console? Aside from that most Wii u owners are quite satisfied with the games now and a lot more are coming our way this Spring
I mean, how infrequent are we talking about here? I've already established that they release only one core IP franchise per console generation. Which is pretty sparsed out as it is. Considering how Assasins Creed is already beating Zelda in game installments and it's only half the age.
Sure if you just want to focus on that one particular branch of Mario games. I mean nobody was excited for Pikmin being brought back or Chibi Robo or any other Nintendo franchise that wasn't Zelda, Mario, or Starfox. That includes the dissenters. You want to see variety, than actually give a shit about it when it's right at your doorstep.
Except that's a lie; Phantom Hourglass had the repetitive Temple of the Ocean King and Spirit Tracks' train mechanics had detractors (which are HEAVILY debatable) but both are completely fine and were well-received by the fanbase. There was nothing about those two that hinted that they should have been a different series.kilenem said:
The fans totally hated that these two games were touch only. Its like when the fans hated Wind Waker for being cell shaded and then everyone did a 180 for when the HD port came out to Wii U. Saying it looked already looked good on the game Cube and didn't need the HD treatment.Aiddon said:
