Whats the deal with the Avatar movie?

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Daedalus1942

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miscelaneous said:
It's 'bout time someone said something about Avatar that wasn't, "ITS THE GREATEST MOVIE EVER!"
It was good, don't get me wrong, but not as good as The Dark Knight.
And to be honest, I hate the film now purely for the fact that people won't shut the hell up about it.
 

Freyar

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It was fun to watch.. as in pretty, but it was brain-dead-stupid.
 

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Kimarous said:
Not G. Ivingname said:
4. Their is an explonation for all that, and it is...


Look at the pretty bunny! Look at the pretty bunny! :D
1. Nicely done joke!
2. Great reference!
3. Adorable picture!

THANK YOU!

Om nom nom nom nom.

Kimarous is kredit to internet!
 

dragonnewby

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I like the navi because it reminds me of Serial Experiments Lain. XD
but yeah, i pretty much hated the movie. To me, movies are all about struggles and emotions, not some retarded effects and cliche story. Thanks for addressing this, OP.
 

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I had no expectations for Avatar so when I saw it I thought it was pretty good,but it was in no way great (beside the visuals) and people over-hyped this thing to the point of ruining it. also am I the only one who thinks this movie is popular mostly because closeted furries went to see it several times?
 

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Sougo said:
Spoiler Alert: If you haven't seen Avatar and you've read the above, be happy. You don't need to see the movie anymore ^_^
typically "spoiler" alerts come before the spoiler content, id argue that this is more of a "im about to thank myself so dont worry about it" alert that aside,

i agree whole heartedly, the movie was as cliche as cliches come, the cgi was good but thats about all the movie had going for it IMO
 

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Sougo said:
So I've just watched Avatar. Yes I know I'm a couple of months too late, but anyways...

The movie definitely did not live up to all the expectations drawn up for it by ppl who've already seen it. Sure, it wasn't a 'bad' movie, but other than the CGI, which I admit was amazing, I really found the movie to be somwhat disappointing.

1) Why is it called Avatar? On the planet of Pandora, occupied by humanoid species called the Na'vi, whose home is now under threat by humans. Seems like a more fitting name would've been "Humans vs. Thundercats" (as all the Na'vi look like distant cousins of Panthera of the thundercats).
a quick explanation;
Avatar
av·a·tar ?noun
1.
Hindu Mythology . the descent of a deity to the earth in an incarnate form or some manifest shape; the incarnation of a god.
2.
an embodiment or personification, as of a principle, attitude, or view of life.
3.
Computers . a graphical image that represents a person, as on the Internet.

Look especially heard at number two there, if you dont realize it after reading that, please hand in you "im smarter than a chimp" Card.
 

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Uh, nuking the mineral they're trying to mine would definitely be a stupid thing to do. They're not there to colonise the planet, it's for the metal stuff. Or did you fall asleep, dreaming of riding a bomb down onto foreign countries ya missile loving yank.
 

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1) The Avatar Bodies are the things those Human scientist take control of. it was said in the first 5 minutes of the movie.

2) That's often the case with movies...

3) You and 30% of the North American white male population.

4) The Movie states that the Humans have lost people to the Na'vi and that the forests are dangerous. never is it said that they are evenly matched...

5) Yea that was pretty fucked up.

6) The Na'vi essentially offered him SUPER LEGS. SUPER LEGS trumps legs any day of the week.

7) Their gonna fix it somehow, it's what humans do. they adapt.

8) Not only did they lose the battle but they were forced off the planet. However, human beings are resilient dicks and since they have announced a sequel they'll probably be back. WITH WEAPONS!!
 

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7) "The Humans were sent back to their dying world..." Really? So Jake Sully chooses to live on a lush planet teaming with life, while condemning his fellow humans to die off with their world... I dunno about you but I think this looks as bad as genocide to me...
8) The humans lost 1 battle and its all over ?!?!? Why wasn't the colonel succeeded by a 2nd in command or something? Where are the nukes, dammit?
I want to see a game where you play the human mercs sent to sort out the mess these first guys left.
also my problem with Avatar is this: isn't that what we're doing in the middle east anyway? stealing native resources. yeah, there was some spititual crap over the top but it's the same thing
 

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1) I would have to say that it's because the put-humans-in-control-of-Na'vi-bodies project is called "The Avatar Program".

2) Yeah, it is predictable,

3) Yes, you are. He was prepared to go after the Na'vi even after they were out of the way.

4) Jake wasn't looking for weaknesses. He was looking for a diplomatic way to get the Na'vi to give up hometree.

5) Whatever. I think she signed on to branch out from the aura of Bad @$$.

6) Joining the Na'vi was by far the best choice. Lets recap what he got:
- His Legs.
- A majorly cool new planet to live on.
- Neytiri, who is arguably the main female protagonist.
- The respect of the Na'vi for saving them.
Where as if he had stayed on the side of the humans, he would have only gotten his legs.

7) If you consider that letting the humans stay would have allowed them to continue to pursue the Na'vi, then no, It's not as bad as genocide.

8) This isn't over. Not a chance. The film did too well. Tell me I'm not the only one that's noticed that if a film does well enough, more story will be found.

Aby_Z said:
1)...8)Because the Navi took over their one base and no one there played Starcraft enough to realize that you're supposed to expand...
I love this comment.
 

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How about the fact that a fleet of armed attack aircraft were DESTROYED BY A PRIMITIVE RACE?!? In the scene where the humans blow the crap out of the big tree, the cockpits are arrow-proof. In the final battle, the arrows go through the glass with enough force to kill the pilots. I also had to wonder why the humans didn't simply go UP until they were so high that the air would be too thin for the aliens to survive in. Also, why'd they go so slow? Even with no instruments, they could have raced a slug and lost.

As you said, why didn't the humans send a second attack wave? I guess they have some sense of honor that forbids a second attack if they are defeated. A nuke or two could have taught those aliens a lesson.

Finally, "Unobtanium"? Seriously?
 

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ok if all agree that the plot is pretty much a throw away why do people call this movie smart. Second the CGI amazing while I don't think Avatar is the worst thing in the world I do not thing it is the best film to ever be created and did not think it should of gotten best picture and the hurt locker rightfully gotten the award not to bring up a flame war but to said all that to make a point.
 

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Decabo said:
Oh. My. Christ. WE GET IT. It's popular to hate on Avatar. We don't need ever human being to mention it. Seriously, enough.
I'm kinda with you on this.

I didn't like the movie at all, but I'm getting pretty sick of people yammering on about it.
 

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There's one thing, and one thing only with Avatar. It's pretty to look at.
/thread
 

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I haven't seen Avatar because like the original post my sister told me it was shit.
Even though every guy I've talked to about it say's it's the most incredible thing ever, I have to take my sister's word for it, because we have the same taste in most things.

Except men.

I prefer mine with a vagina.

Breasts are optional.
 

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Sougo said:
So I've just watched Avatar. Yes I know I'm a couple of months too late, but anyways...

The movie definitely did not live up to all the expectations drawn up for it by ppl who've already seen it. Sure, it wasn't a 'bad' movie, but other than the CGI, which I admit was amazing, I really found the movie to be somwhat disappointing.

1) Why is it called Avatar? On the planet of Pandora, occupied by humanoid species called the Na'vi, whose home is now under threat by humans. Seems like a more fitting name would've been "Humans vs. Thundercats" (as all the Na'vi look like distant cousins of Panthera of the thundercats).
2) In the first 15 mins it becomes pretty obvious who the good and the bad humans are, seeing as all the Na'vi are good ... you can practically predict what happens next in the movie.
3) Am I the only one who thinks the the colonel (yes, the big bad guy) was in the right?
4) The movie creates a distinct impression that the humans and Thundercats are somewhat evenly matched ... that is until the fighting actually begins ... and the humans PWN the thundercats. This really got me thinking that if the humans were all that militarily superior to the Thundercats anyway, why in the world did the colonel employ Jake Sully to find weaknesses in the tribe? You don't need weaknesses to bomb em...
5) The movie has Sigourney Weaver in it ... as a scientist! I can't believe I watched a 2.5 hour movie with Sigourney Weaver in it and there wasn't a single scene of her machine-gunning someone or hammering someone with Mecha-armor (and this movie had guns and Mecha-armor too). To make matters worse, she dies .... and she doesn't even come back, as a thundercat or as a cyborg. (You'd think that after 4 Alien movies this was a given...)
6) The colonel offers Jake Sully legs.... LEGS dammit. Who doesn't want legs!!! I can't help but feel that between LEGS and joining team thundercats .... LEGS was the right choice.
7) "The Humans were sent back to their dying world..." Really? So Jake Sully chooses to live on a lush planet teaming with life, while condemning his fellow humans to die off with their world... I dunno about you but I think this looks as bad as genocide to me...
8) The humans lost 1 battle and its all over ?!?!? Why wasn't the colonel succeeded by a 2nd in command or something? Where are the nukes, dammit?

All in all, its not that I didn't like this movie, but frankly I hate it when a movies story has too many holes in it. I suppose most of you guys will disagree with me, but I'd like to know your thoughts on the topic anyway. Note: I still think Avatar is a good movie (much better than most of the stuff coming out these days) but I could have been better.

Spoiler Alert: If you haven't seen Avatar and you've read the above, be happy. You don't need to see the movie anymore ^_^
1) It's a single catchy word, that describes how he lives his life through an avatar, and becomes it.

2) True

3) I thought the spend most time on the left side of teh screen, but i could be mistaken, and no i think he's a tard, but great comic relief, but thats just my oppinion

4) the na'vi couldn't defend themselves from aerial assault, but i guess they oculd've pwned teh human base somewhat if they attacked... but yeah, mainly for the sake of the plot i think, hough they needed to figure out how to demolish the tree.

5) It's funny how some people will complain that adam sandler (or many others) always plays the same role, but when someone plays something out of their ordinary spectre of roles, it's bad as well?

6) The na'vi gave him stronger blue legs + he got between the legs of that navi chick, if thats how they mate... i think they use their pony-tails... which in turn means they're rapeign their horses and pterodactyles when they ride them :S

7) The unobtainium wasn't gonna do shit to save earth, only make someone rich, it's a metal, not water or plants or anything.

8) They lost their force, and the planet is several years of travel away, but sure, it owuld make sense if more peopel came there.

It's nopt that i think it's the most awesome movie ever or anything (Boondock Saints is) it's just that i hate when a rant is so rushed half of teh stuff written doesn't make sense/isn't thought through... if you wanna ***** about something get some facts straightm otherwise peopel will just think you're a hater and dismiss everything you say as verbal diareah. Though i'm delightfully suprissed that you go beyond "it's dances with wolves" an argument which could tear down most movies if that was a solid groudn for calling something bad.

The thing i liek most (apart form the awesome CGI) is the whole world. In movies as well sa games, i find the setting to be as important as the story, even more than story in games, cause gameplay beats story in my book.
 

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Yeah, uh...I was too busy watching District 9 to care about this movie. Thanks for simplifying it, though. Now I can spend my time doing something else.
 

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It's not as great as a lot of people are making out but i think the hype is causing people to try and pick holes where there isn't any. A lot of the points you mentioned are justifiable or just wrong :p

On the subject of the humans being the bad guys, as it's been said, humans should sort out their own damn mess!
It's just selfish to go and run some other inhabited planet to the ground just because you can't fix your own.

The movie does have a lot of flaws but people are picking the wrong reasons to hate it.
 

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LightOfDarkness said:
I thought it was a decent movie, but there were a lot of plot holes. Some the size of Mars, some the size of the last drop of soda in the can that just won't come out. Like why the hell is Unobtanium so damn valuable?
It is valuable because it is fucking unobtainable!

Avatar refers that he was a human in the na'vi body. Makes a lot of sense.