You're clearly confusing Naruto with One Piece. Somehow.CrystalShadow said:No, it's not present in the DVD's. And it's perfectly possible the unsensored versions have been broadcast on TV as well in certain places.
But I should remind you that there are 2 English dubs. One created by 4Kids, and the other by Funimation.
I've never seen much of the 4Kids version, but I did see a comparison of a scene from the two on youtube, and it did pretty much gut large parts of the story. (And in the example given drastically changed the implications of the story in the process.)
Just because you've never seen the censored version, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And no, online streams and DVD releases aren't likely to be based of of this.
Japan might have strict laws, but that depends on what you're showing, and at what time of day. I'm in the UK, and the unedited varsion of naruto varies between '12' and '15' ratings. (parts of seasons 3 and 4 having higher ratings.)
But I'm fairly certain 4Kids tried to get it into a lower ratings category than that...
Regardless of that point, Naruto remains relatively violent given what kind of age group it's really aimed at.
I haven't read past the first couple chapters of Narutaru, but I checked what magazine it was serialized in, and it was serialized in Afternoon, a seinen (15+) magazine. So the same would go for the anime.NiPah said:Most brutal anime intended for children? Narutaru
With the knee jerking into the groin?Jayemsal said:I never really got the point of the ultra-violent animes, though anime was never my thing in the first place.
I have a sort of knee jerk reaction against those who call it "mature" though.
Hmm... You know what? I thought I knew what was going on, but every thing I do to verify what I thought I knew throws up new questions. Even examining my DVD collection is confusing.Dr. Cakey said:You're clearly confusing Naruto with One Piece. Somehow.CrystalShadow said:No, it's not present in the DVD's. And it's perfectly possible the unsensored versions have been broadcast on TV as well in certain places.
But I should remind you that there are 2 English dubs. One created by 4Kids, and the other by Funimation.
I've never seen much of the 4Kids version, but I did see a comparison of a scene from the two on youtube, and it did pretty much gut large parts of the story. (And in the example given drastically changed the implications of the story in the process.)
Just because you've never seen the censored version, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And no, online streams and DVD releases aren't likely to be based of of this.
Japan might have strict laws, but that depends on what you're showing, and at what time of day. I'm in the UK, and the unedited varsion of naruto varies between '12' and '15' ratings. (parts of seasons 3 and 4 having higher ratings.)
But I'm fairly certain 4Kids tried to get it into a lower ratings category than that...
Regardless of that point, Naruto remains relatively violent given what kind of age group it's really aimed at.
Well, I know nothing about anime dubbing and distribution in the UK other than that Manga Entertainment exists, but in the US Naruto belongs to Viz Media, and they haven't released multiple DVD versions as far as I know. Any censorship is of course the responsibility of individual broadcast channels, but if it was widespread I feel like I would have heard about it. Censorship is a touchy subject, particularly for anime - people have gone over every single episode of every Yu-Gi-Oh! series with a fine-tooth comb to identify each and every alteration 4Kids made over the years.CrystalShadow said:Hmm... You know what? I thought I knew what was going on, but every thing I do to verify what I thought I knew throws up new questions. Even examining my DVD collection is confusing.
My (UK) Naruto DVD's are from 'Manga Entertainment'. That isn't so surprising though given what I thought was going on, because so are a lot of the others on my shelf. Including many which were dubbed by Funimation. - For instance, their UK site mentions One Piece... (But indeed, Naruto doesn't mention Funimation anywhere, while a lot of the other 'Manga Entertainment' DVD's do. - they don't in fact mention anything other than the japanese copyright holder... )
Internet searches do lead to evidence of their being multiple versions of Naruto (including multiple DVD releases with different editing). Some of them heavily edited. (such as for use on a disney channel)
Unfortunately, even the video I thought I had access to I can't find. (Either because I don't have it bookmarked, it's been removed from youtube, or possibly both.)
Ehm. I give up. Clearly something's completely off about what I thought I knew.
But it still seems my principal point more or less remains true...
Couldn't agree more, I mean when you really get down to it the main premise of the show [at least in part 1] is about CHILD SOLDIERS!!.CrystalShadow said:Hmm.
Well, of the anime I've seen, Elfen Lied is definitely up there as being brutal.
'She, the ultimate weapon' (the title varies a bit, so I'm not entirely sure what to call it) is... Also quite messed up, though perhaps not in a way that could be described as brutal as such.
Oh, but going with 'kids' anime...
Naruto. Seriously, that's been heavily edited for western audiences to make it more child-friendly, but when you see the unedited versions, you see why.
Naruto (and many of the other characters) get the crap kicked out of them on a regular basis, and often in quite sadistic ways.
I mean, a lot of the core premise of the series (when it isn't being silly) is about using other people for your own ends, and whether or not you should care about what that does to them...
Naruto, when you look at it is really messed up.
Well, the most recent one I've watched that was rather violent --if only for the end of the second episode-- was Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse.SonOfMethuselah said:Hence my questions, Escapists: what is the most brutal anime you've seen? Could be an entire series, or maybe just one episode of an otherwise not-quite-so-brutal series.
Yeah.. Deadman Wonderland probably tops for me to. It may not be as over-the top as some.. but the way it seems to take it's time with the brutality. Probably the only anime I ever had to stop watching cause the violence actually got to me. It's basically torture porn taken to new and different levels.Talaris said:Elfen Lied was my first, but only because it really strives to be so.
Before Higurashi I would count Deadman Wonderland as the 2nd most brutal from the ones that I've seen..There's a scene where one guy gets splashed with acid, his flesh starts to dissolve to the bone in a pretty nasty way, then he's sobbing and cries out for his mom before being slowly crushed feet first. Yeah I felt a little ill seeing that.
I listed JoJo's simply because of how violent things could get in parts 1 and 2 from the Manga and seeing the anime pull it off did wonders for me. But majority of the time Dio was ever on screen or the Pillar men were, I always expected some serious mutilation and was never disappointed.VMK said:I dunno about JoJo. It is AMAZING manga and (so far) great anime, but it is not all that brutal, compared to other existing examples of anime gore. I only thought that violence there is disturbing during scenes with dogs, but I always feel sorry for hurt dogs and cats.Madara XIII said:- Hellsing Ultimate (Fanfucking tastic Anime)
- Baccano (Few select brutal scenes but a well done anime)
- Berserk (Need I say more!? It's so damn good)
- Elfen Lied (Brutal, but that anime's story can go fuck itself.)
And last but not least.
[HEADING=2]JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE ANIME [/HEADING]
SO BRUTAL! SO MUDA
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I'll be mainstream and go with Elfen Lied. It's a rather crappy anime, but no other one made me so... Revolted by what I saw on a screen.
Indeed. Even though I prefer the Brotherhood anime to the 2003 anime, the 2003 anime still has its fair share of brutal scenes.Nazulu said:I agree with this too. The characters and emotions and pretty much every thing were just so well done in that show that every death was made into an actual tragedy, compared to something silly as Elfin Lied. That specific part you mentioned really stood out for me as well.Relish in Chaos said:The scene towards the end of the first anime where King Bradley strangles his son to death. Despite the overall depressing nature of the series, that was the first scene to really make me go, "Shit...that's brutal." It doesn't even have to be visceral; it was more psychologically brutal than anything, because the kid just wanted to help his father.)
As well the girl being fused with the family dog, watching Greed slowly dying like he was suffering, the town turning into stone or some shit, Crimson and Scar making people explode like it's nothing, Marta slowly pierced inside Alphonse, etc. It's pretty fucking hectic.