What's the obsession with expensive phones?

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Phoenixmgs said:
But that expensive phone doesn't do anything more than a $200 phone unlike a luxury car has lots more features that will actually be used.
Well, the expensive phone will have a nicer screen, take better photos (and this is a really big thing to some people), have a quicker processer and more RAM and just generally be better. The car, on the other hand, just takes you from A to B.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
But that expensive phone doesn't do anything more than a $200 phone unlike a luxury car has lots more features that will actually be used.
Well, the expensive phone will have a nicer screen, take better photos (and this is a really big thing to some people), have a quicker processer and more RAM and just generally be better. The car, on the other hand, just takes you from A to B.
This is hilariously tone deaf.

Lets look at a situation for you:
John is a revvhead. He's super mechanical, does lots of his own work. Is passionate about and really enjoys getting under the hood, having track days, and really enjoying his daily drive.
He doesnt give a crap about taking photos, fiddling with apps or doing anything other than making and receiving calls.
To John, the smart phones are frivolous crap. The photo quality is irrelevant and the extra features arent something he gives a crap about. Whether it be the basic model, or the premium model, it takes photos and makes calls.

His BMW or Mercedes has a better ride, more power, a satisfying growl and plenty of bells and whistles to enhance his daily commute.



Have I made my point yet? Both of you are wrong, stuck on projecting personal values as objective facts.
 

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Elijin said:
This is hilariously tone deaf.
No it wasn't, I knew exactly what I was doing. I deliberately underplayed the difference between a runabout and a luxury car because that's what the OP is doing with phones.
 

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My theory is that it's a justifiable expense (since they use it for everything anyway) and it saves them from having to go through the trouble of picking from the wider market of phones and it's a left over habit from when the more expensive phones were truly better.
 

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A better phone means better/faster playback for 1080p+ mkvs and the like.
My Samsung On5 plays 1080p MKVs just fine, I got some on my phone right now.
I might be a bit outdated in this.

I just remember even my old HTC One M8 having difficulty playing mkvs without issues. Regardless, my screen is a bigass 1440p with purty color. I'm content with the pricing.
 

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Baffle2 said:
Elijin said:
This is hilariously tone deaf.
No it wasn't, I knew exactly what I was doing. I deliberately underplayed the difference between a runabout and a luxury car because that's what the OP is doing with phones.
I get what you were doing. However, better cars have features that more budgeted cars don't have like heated seats, remote start, bluetooth (has that become standard yet?), etc. Standard car packages are surprisingly devoid of cheap and commonplace features like my 2012 Civic didn't come with bluetooth (which only costs like $10 or so). Whereas better phones just do the same things but slightly better like a better camera or screen. I bet the average consumer has a higher res screen on their 5" phone than there 40+" TV, which doesn't make much sense at all. People aren't buying more expensive cars because a bit higher horsepower and torque for example.

wizzy555 said:
My theory is that it's a justifiable expense (since they use it for everything anyway) and it saves them from having to go through the trouble of picking from the wider market of phones and it's a left over habit from when the more expensive phones were truly better.
That somewhat makes sense though we go through the trouble with a lot of other things like cars and TVs. Just like any other thing out there, you just go one-step above bottom of the barrel and you got a phone that does everything just like say a TV.

LostGryphon said:
I might be a bit outdated in this.

I just remember even my old HTC One M8 having difficulty playing mkvs without issues. Regardless, my screen is a bigass 1440p with purty color. I'm content with the pricing.
It could have been the software over the hardware especially with MKVs. I know an video player I didn't update for like a year didn't play a 1080p MKV well until I updated the app (Moboplayer).
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
I get what you were doing. However, better cars have features that more budgeted cars don't have like heated seats, remote start, bluetooth (has that become standard yet?), etc. Standard car packages are surprisingly devoid of cheap and commonplace features like my 2012 Civic didn't come with bluetooth (which only costs like $10 or so). Whereas better phones just do the same things but slightly better like a better camera or screen. I bet the average consumer has a higher res screen on their 5" phone than there 40+" TV, which doesn't make much sense at all. People aren't buying more expensive cars because a bit higher horsepower and torque for example.
Yay, some gets me! I understand what you're saying about the car/phone thing in terms of features, but I think it just comes down to people being prepared to pay more for something that is just better (obviously there is a status symbol thing with both of these too though).

To take another product where I pay slightly more for something better: I use a lot of red-ink pens, and I pay more for gel pens than for ballpoints. Red ballpoints work okay but it isn't a very nice red, and sometimes it's a bit faint. Gel pens, much better - a strong red and you don't have to press down. They both do the same job, but the gel pen does it much better (and is nicer to hold usually) - that's why I'd pay more for it.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
wizzy555 said:
My theory is that it's a justifiable expense (since they use it for everything anyway) and it saves them from having to go through the trouble of picking from the wider market of phones and it's a left over habit from when the more expensive phones were truly better.
That somewhat makes sense though we go through the trouble with a lot of other things like cars and TVs. Just like any other thing out there, you just go one-step above bottom of the barrel and you got a phone that does everything just like say a TV.
High end TVs and cars are VERY expensive. Bank breaking expensive. As phones get more and more expensive more people will break away, then the high end market will collapse or at least decline.
 

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Yay, some gets me! I understand what you're saying about the car/phone thing in terms of features, but I think it just comes down to people being prepared to pay more for something that is just better (obviously there is a status symbol thing with both of these too though).

To take another product where I pay slightly more for something better: I use a lot of red-ink pens, and I pay more for gel pens than for ballpoints. Red ballpoints work okay but it isn't a very nice red, and sometimes it's a bit faint. Gel pens, much better - a strong red and you don't have to press down. They both do the same job, but the gel pen does it much better (and is nicer to hold usually) - that's why I'd pay more for it.
I don't get the status symbol of a phone considering just about everyone has a phone case that hides most differences of a flagship anyway. I totally get certain car brands being status symbols because it's super obvious the difference between say a Chevy Corvette and Chevy Cruze or a BMW vs a Ford. I also get people paying more for a premium, you like that pen smoothness so you buy better pens. However, most people are fine with whatever thing that just gets the job done whether it's pens or cars while there will always be those aficionados of anything. The thing with phones I notice is that just about everyone for some reason seems to be phone aficionados, and that just seems rather unprecedented and quite an extreme outlier.
 

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Relevant to me, what's the obsession with expensive guitars? There are endless videos on YouTube showing the contrast between guitars that cost just north of $100 USD and others that cost well in the excess of $4,000. They tend to show while there are differences in the sound made, they aren't worth the substantial price difference (even if the reviewer will start gushing about how amazeballs the more expensive ones are). If you want good examples of this, look at Anderton's Music's channel where they do this many times. Rob Chapman, a man who builds and plays guitars professionally, frequently struggles to identify how expensive a guitar is based on sound alone (more often basing his admittedly correct guesses on build quality and strong familiarity with brands). Lee Anderton, a 3rd generation guitar retailer, often states he can't keep himself away from the high-end stuff even though he struggles more than Chapman to identify which guitars cost more.

People are also often under the impression their guitar gods use only the best of the best and are surprised to learn most of them got cheap guitars second-hand (Clapton, Vaughn, Hendrix, Page, Slash etc). It's not uncommon for officially-made replicas of these guitars (complete with perfectly replicated damage) to cost 10x + what the original cost.

The reason is the public deems it so. The public deems it so largely due to successful marketing campaigns which tend to perpetuate themselves. What do you think of when you think "Mercedes?"