What's the problem with Nudity and Swearing?

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SextusMaximus

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Nudity and swearing, two things considered taboo in our society... but... why?

First off, I had a description for this, but I believe Stephen Fry can explain better, why swearing perfectly harmless:

Secondly, why is nudity considered so bad? Who on earth thought that nudity could possibly come across as bad has their head up their arse.

A) If nudity is to be considered bad, it should only be allowed to add up to a 12 rating, as that's the age kids learn about Sex / puberty / etc. in school ( earlier, in my school's case ).

B) EVERYBODY has seen the opposite genders body parts at one part or another.

C) Isn't it hypocritical that one part of society are saying that the human body is a beautiful thing, while another part are ranting about how disgusting it it?

(BTW Nudity IS NOT EQUAL TO Sex - which probably isn't that bad either [provided it's not extreme sex])

What are your views / arguments?

EDIT: EDIT: Fuck the definition to sodomy, you all know what I mean -.-
 

Hollyosaur

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Some people can be quite prudish.

Personally, I have no problems with either but some people do.

Just life, people love having something to be offended at. :p
 

101194

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Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
 

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101194 said:
Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
The extreme reaction on nudity on the other hand only occurs like that if it is banned from everywhere. If it was normal you wouldnt be as aroused by the mere sight of some exposed skin.
I can see that reaction on the faces of "strangers" coming to some gothclubs i visit regularly, and some of the girls are hiding far less then they're showing. But you get used to it and stop to react like some kind of horny catoon wolf.
 

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101194 said:
Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
Swearing is just a means of description, and the fact is there are replacements for swear words. Instead of saying "Fuck, that's creepy!" one could use "Gosh, that's creepy". They both equate to the same thing, so why is one set of pronunciation considered worse than another when it IS the same thing? Also, the only reason many people don't swear is because of the fact that it will get them into trouble.
 

Kingstome

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There isn't a single fucking problem with swearing, as far as I'm concerned. And nudity, well... That comes and goes depending on the particular era in human history. Give it a few more years and it will be perfectly acceptable, then a few years later we will all become prudes again.



Edit - I assumed we were discussing nudity in media and such and the big deal that gets made of it. If we are in fact asking why it is not OK to just walk out the front door naked, well I'd have to say that nothing would ever get done, car accidents would triple, and there would be a much bigger problem with certain crimes.
 

joshuaayt

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These things are problems because they are problems, you know what I'm sayin'?
People dislike hearing swearing, because they were taught to. P
eople react negatively to nudity, because, usually, the only time you see a naked person within your own age bracket, it is for sexual reasons, or after some sort of sexual act has occured. And, as we know, "SEX IS BAD". Or, at least, "SEX IS SOMETHING TO BE ASHAMED OF".
 

Duskwaith

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Mainly from religious groups who seem to forget that most of the greatest buildings dedicated to God are covered in nude paintings and sculptures.

Dont understand society at times. Its okay to let someone go home to a cold house but when the conitions breed crime we think we are superior to them.
 

Betancore

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Stephen Fry's voice is so comforting.

Anyway, we were all born naked, so maybe it's just a societal thing because it doesn't seem to be something that's innate. Who puts clothes on us? Other people. Right. So maybe just because everyone else thinks it's taboo, we think it is too. And we also want to conform - we don't see many naked people wandering the streets of our town, so we don't do it either. Same goes for swearing, I guess. In the end, it's just another word. But it's the way people react to that word that makes it taboo.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
101194 said:
Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
Swearing is just a means of description, and the fact is there are replacements for swear words. Instead of saying "Fuck, that's creepy!" one could use "Gosh, that's creepy". They both equate to the same thing, so why is one set of pronunciation considered worse than another when it IS the same thing? Also, the only reason many people don't swear is because of the fact that it will get them into trouble.
Because 'Gosh that's creepy' gives a sense of mild urgency. If you spent your whole life around somebody who never, ever swore, and all of a sudden, somebody jumps out on them and they proceed to list every swearword they know at the top of their voice, you'd be damn shocked.
If, like me, you swear as a second language in appropriate company, your swearing is practically unnoticed. My parents allow me to swear so long as it's not at them, and the situation is appropriate.
 

Hateren47

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When I was growing up (here in Denmark) nudity and swearing (even sexual acts as long as it was under the sheets) could be on TV for kids and no one would care as long as it entertained the kids. Today it's a little different, but a woman can still walk topless down the street swearing like a sailor, and no one would care. It doesn't happen often enough but the thought is not really that far fetched.
 

Vanguard_Ex

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Because they're bad.

I know that sounds at first like I'm being stupid and unhelpful, but I'm trying to convey the fact that that's just how it is. They're just bad, no discussion. This is drilled into us as children and that's just the way it is. The sky is blue, murder is wrong and you shouldn't ever go nude or swear. Of course as we grow and test the boundaries, we all learn when exceptions can be made.
 

hyperhammy

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Honestly,I want to say I have nothing against nudity, but I DO feel uncomfortable around nudity (at least in real life). I don't have anything against it in movies, games etc...
 

SextusMaximus

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Thyunda said:
SextusMaximus said:
101194 said:
Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
Swearing is just a means of description, and the fact is there are replacements for swear words. Instead of saying "Fuck, that's creepy!" one could use "Gosh, that's creepy". They both equate to the same thing, so why is one set of pronunciation considered worse than another when it IS the same thing? Also, the only reason many people don't swear is because of the fact that it will get them into trouble.
Because 'Gosh that's creepy' gives a sense of mild urgency. If you spent your whole life around somebody who never, ever swore, and all of a sudden, somebody jumps out on them and they proceed to list every swearword they know at the top of their voice, you'd be damn shocked.
If, like me, you swear as a second language in appropriate company, your swearing is practically unnoticed. My parents allow me to swear so long as it's not at them, and the situation is appropriate.
I understand that, but people don't consider something like a fire bell taboo, when the fire bell is meant to give a sense of urgency and make people think "something's up, I better do XY and Z". For instance, I was playing in net a while ago, and my kneecap cracked against the post and I was in agony, so I screamed "SHIT!" and the teacher told me off for it.
 

Xan Holbrook

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I believe there should be absolutely no censorship at all on the issue of "bad" language or nudity and sex - We are all sexual beings who express at least an interest to know rather than practice from an early age. If sex is not an alien concept and is made out to be perfectly healthy, the practice become safer, the thought of it becomes perfectly natural and, hopefully, everyone will see that your physique will not hinder you having sex.

As for language, anyone who is a fan of The Thick Of It's Malcolm Tucker will tell you that a strategically placed F-Bomb can lift conversation or a point in debate into a higher echelon. Not only that, but, at least in my experience, swearing isn't that prominent in adults. Teens are the biggest exponent of swearing in my opinion and if you're coming into contact with language like that supposedly earlier than you need to, then what's the point of having bad language censored? It isn't going to shock anybody, if anything swearing makes characters relatable to everyone if not likeable.

However, these are just my opinions.
 

Thyunda

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SextusMaximus said:
Thyunda said:
SextusMaximus said:
101194 said:
Well, It's the implication of offense. You only swear to offend or show extreme emotions or describe a awkward situation. If swearing wasn't taboo, people wouldn't swear. Simply because it's taboo it's used.

Nudity on the other hand is to keep sexual desire from interfering with society, and also to keep us warm. Or you could say using leather straps for protection against the lions jaws? Nudity isn't bad it's just a poor decision.
Swearing is just a means of description, and the fact is there are replacements for swear words. Instead of saying "Fuck, that's creepy!" one could use "Gosh, that's creepy". They both equate to the same thing, so why is one set of pronunciation considered worse than another when it IS the same thing? Also, the only reason many people don't swear is because of the fact that it will get them into trouble.
Because 'Gosh that's creepy' gives a sense of mild urgency. If you spent your whole life around somebody who never, ever swore, and all of a sudden, somebody jumps out on them and they proceed to list every swearword they know at the top of their voice, you'd be damn shocked.
If, like me, you swear as a second language in appropriate company, your swearing is practically unnoticed. My parents allow me to swear so long as it's not at them, and the situation is appropriate.
I understand that, but people don't consider something like a fire bell taboo, when the fire bell is meant to give a sense of urgency and make people think "something's up, I better do XY and Z". For instance, I was playing in net a while ago, and my kneecap cracked against the post and I was in agony, so I screamed "SHIT!" and the teacher told me off for it.
The fire bell is designed to warn people and that's the effect it has. Swearing is designed to be harsh and unpleasant. It has that effect.
Often, older people can't stand swearing. If you were at my old school and you swore for that, the teacher would have understood and ignored it.