By that logic, the entire world is pointless.TheRightToArmBears said:
Money is pointless.
Food is pointless.
Water is pointless.
Did..
Did you even listen to Mr Fry?
What's the problem with Nudity and Swearing?
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Money is pointless.
Food is pointless.
Water is pointless.
Did..
Did you even listen to Mr Fry?
I agree completely about the nudity. Too much of any good thing is bad.Shoggoth2588 said:
Cake is fantastic. I love eating cake, it tastes great. But too much of it is a BAD thing. Same with swearing. Don't use it all the time, but feel free to use it expressing anger or to give a description to something.
Well our view of swearing comes from when those words were really offensive. People say fuck, damn, hell, or shit all the time now and they don't really mean as much today beyond being curse words. But back when this whole view was formed, saying fuck or ***** in regular conversation was the modern day equivalent of saying ****** or ****** (the homophobic slur, not the name for a bundle of twigs). Curse words held some power back then that they rarely do nowadays. I have nothing against swearing, but there are times and places for it. When you're in pain there should be nothing wrong with letting out a nice "FUCK!" to let everyone know how you feel (horrible, thanks for asking). Swearing can also be used for humor, as a well placed swear can really spice up a joke.
As for nudity, its probably because in our culture (at least in America, can't speak for other nations) sex is at its least a very private thing and at its worse a neccessary evil that should be avoid for as long as possible. Doesn't make much sense, as sex is a beautiful thing and really shouldn't be classified as being the same as violence in terms of vulgarity. Where does nudity fit into this? Nudity is generally equated with sex (in America!) so thus its a big no-no to be nude most of the time. But, rather than causing people to not get so excited when some skin is shown, it has the opposite effect; since it only paritially represses peoples natural sexual urges thus causing people to react more when presented with nudity. I'd have to agree that if nudity was so taboo and everyone was doing it then it wouldn't be such a big deal to most people. The only problem is that if nudity were to become more common, the view of a naked body wouldn't cause as much arousal. Make of that what you will. Plus, wearing clothing has its uses. In colder climes, going nude in the middle of winter is just plain stupid. It can also be useful when weather conditions are somewhat harmful. I guess that I believe the gentalia should be kept under wraps but anything else should be let out when wanted (and when its smart to do so).
As for nudity, its probably because in our culture (at least in America, can't speak for other nations) sex is at its least a very private thing and at its worse a neccessary evil that should be avoid for as long as possible. Doesn't make much sense, as sex is a beautiful thing and really shouldn't be classified as being the same as violence in terms of vulgarity. Where does nudity fit into this? Nudity is generally equated with sex (in America!) so thus its a big no-no to be nude most of the time. But, rather than causing people to not get so excited when some skin is shown, it has the opposite effect; since it only paritially represses peoples natural sexual urges thus causing people to react more when presented with nudity. I'd have to agree that if nudity was so taboo and everyone was doing it then it wouldn't be such a big deal to most people. The only problem is that if nudity were to become more common, the view of a naked body wouldn't cause as much arousal. Make of that what you will. Plus, wearing clothing has its uses. In colder climes, going nude in the middle of winter is just plain stupid. It can also be useful when weather conditions are somewhat harmful. I guess that I believe the gentalia should be kept under wraps but anything else should be let out when wanted (and when its smart to do so).
Nope.SextusMaximus said:
The point (or one of the big points) of swearing is that it's shocking if done right. Of course, if swearing ceases to be shocking then it's fairly useless.
It goes without saying that money, food and water aren't made to be shocking.
I'll give you an example why nudity and swearing is not necessarily bad, but immature; Spartacus. That show could've been very good if it didn't throw tits and fucks at you every damn second.
Contrary to popular belief, words have meaning. And so does swearing and cursing. If you're pissed off and you need to vent, by all means, curse a blue streak. But just swearing for the hell of it (I'm looking at you Spartacus) is stupid, unnecessary and immature.
As for nudity: The average naked person is ugly.
EDIT: Also, most nudity on TV or in movies is rarely used in proper context (not for kids atleast). Most of the time, it's used for either erotisism, shock value or comedy. If it's for comedy I dont mind kids seeing it.
Contrary to popular belief, words have meaning. And so does swearing and cursing. If you're pissed off and you need to vent, by all means, curse a blue streak. But just swearing for the hell of it (I'm looking at you Spartacus) is stupid, unnecessary and immature.
As for nudity: The average naked person is ugly.
EDIT: Also, most nudity on TV or in movies is rarely used in proper context (not for kids atleast). Most of the time, it's used for either erotisism, shock value or comedy. If it's for comedy I dont mind kids seeing it.
Really? I've always used it, and seen it used to describe anal sex. Laws on the books against Sodomy were put there primarily to criminalize male-male sex. Though men and women can do it as well, it's usually seen as perverted. But primarily, the meaning is Anal sex, no matter what definitions have been grafted on to it later.SextusMaximus said:
1) I'm not saying people have to be naked, I'm saying people should be allowed to be.Dyme said:
2) Tradition isn't an argument.
3) No, you're not allowed to take them off.
Unnatural is what is described. I generally assumed that to mean extreme or grotusque in the manner used. Not to mention if it is used to describe anal sex, that allows to be used for Homosexuals and Heterosexuals. Not just one.LadyRhian said:
Of course it does. But it was used to criminalize male-male sex. Especially in the south. Men and women were rarely prosecuted for such (presumably because it was done in the privacy of one's home, and procreative sex was considered to be the norm where man and women were concerned.)SextusMaximus said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States
Nothing at all is wrong with either of them; why society has a problem with them? I don't know.
Hell, even my mom used to be all uptight about cursing. A typical conversation about cussing with my mom usually looks like this:
Me: *Insert random swear here. For the sake of it, why don't we agree that it's 'Fuck'.*
Mom: David, why the hell are you swearing? I didn't raise you like that Goddammit!
Me: *Laughing at the irony*
As for nudity... Well, I'm a big fan (some of the time).
Hell, even my mom used to be all uptight about cursing. A typical conversation about cussing with my mom usually looks like this:
Me: *Insert random swear here. For the sake of it, why don't we agree that it's 'Fuck'.*
Mom: David, why the hell are you swearing? I didn't raise you like that Goddammit!
Me: *Laughing at the irony*
As for nudity... Well, I'm a big fan (some of the time).