My own imagination always cast the humans as some sort of biological mainframe. Yes, thermodynamics would make them useless as power sources, but you have billions of minds wired into your network, what is to stop you from using some of the idle run time? Every few decades you "reboot" the system to clear out registry errors (neo) and viruses (smith)to keep the system running smoothly. Donno, that's how I would have written the last movie.
In Terminator: Salvation, all the machines are wildly inacurate. We have machines that can fire a machine gun (and have every bullet hit the sames spot) now, but in the future, machines are about as accurate as a drunk with Parkinson's.
Well, the first law of Thermodynamics states that the amount energy in a system is equal to the work put in, as well as heat lost the surroundings.
Everyone's heard: "Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, just changed from one form to another."
For humans to have to be able to produce energy, the machines will have to give them the same amount of energy. If the humans were a perfect machine, they'd simply get back what they started with. Entropy is kind of hard to explain, but essentially in every thermodynamic process, the amount of useable energy either stays the same, or more realistically, always decreases. Think of heat loss to the surroundings in any machine, or the energy wasted powering their brain. There's no way they can get that back.
They're basically wasting energy keeping humans alive, which defies the entire point.
I've yet to see a way that introduces it in a heat equation though.
Code:
We mock your fleshy sacks, and your "souls" are pitiable.
*cough*
Sorry, got something caught in my throat...
Damoclies said:
My own imagination always cast the humans as some sort of biological mainframe. Yes, thermodynamics would make them useless as power sources, but you have billions of minds wired into your network, what is to stop you from using some of the idle run time? Every few decades you "reboot" the system to clear out registry errors (neo) and viruses (smith)to keep the system running smoothly. Donno, that's how I would have written the last movie.
The whole using people's brains in parallel processing is the best explanation I've heard; from a poster earlier in the thread they said that was the original idea, but got scrapped because they thought audiences wouldn't understand it.
The no laser weapons is patently nonsense we already have them (big though they are) and space only really presents the problem of cooling while removing dissipation and refraction issues that atmosphere causes.
No ships? there's no reason not to scale up the space craft we already have.
If Khitchary is referring to faster than light ships then equally there are several theories that could allow for such travel that are both plausible and awaiting a debunk.
Warp travel is one possibility so long as the ship stays below light speed and distorts space around itself.
Worm holes are the most likely candidate we have. create a worm hole and drag one end through space, yes it's slow but once the holes are in place we'd have theoretically instantaneous travel.
Brane tunnelling is another, shaky, theory. Mathematics show the universe may be a far more complex beast than we can observe and our 'universe' simply lies atop a massive multi-dimensional structure, the theory being if you can bundle up your ship between dimensional Branes you'd be able to pass through other dimensions to short-cut across the ones we observe.
Don't write off FTL we don't have a full physical model yet and many things stand outside of human understanding; even if we did have one everything we think we know could be artefacts of our limited perception and faulty thinking. Like the blind men and the elephant. The physical sciences have been rocked several time requiring a full re-think, maybe we are overdue another.
You can hear sounds in space.
Space is not a complete vacuum, and retains enough molecular density to carry the wave compressions that form sound. It is quiet, but if an explosion was big enough...
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html
[/thread]Either that or plan9 from outer space shouldn't be allowed.
There's not a single thing in the film that holds up to any scrutiny. shoddy camera work, production, sets, special effects, script, story and everything else. It wasn't accused of being the worst film ever made for no reason.
surprised no one has mentioned lightsabers. now don't get me wrong lightsabers are ossum but from a purely scientific point of view they are rediculous.
Dr Michio Kaku posits that you could make a lightsaber using a plasma torch with a telescopic ceramic core. Check out the TV shows Science of the Impossible, also his book Physics of the Impossible (but I don't think the saber idea was in the book.)
This isn't an example of "bad science". They're perfectly aware of this.
The reason for them breaking this rule of science is that the moviegoers and -buyers wouldn't be comfortable watching a movie that includes thirty minutes of space warfare, with nothing but Captain Kirk occasionally screaming commands to his subordinates.
I know it's not fair to place all the blame on Roland Emmerich for this stuff. He didn't write the scripts but he is the Director and as such he should have some final say in this stuff.
Independence Day: How is Will Smith able to fly that alien aircraft? Professional Jet Pilot does not equal Space Jockey! How was Goldblum able to program a virus that was compatible with the Alien technology? I don't care if he's an MIT graduate that doesn't make him fluent in Alien software. Also, How did the virus tansmit itself to the alien Mothership? Are they running Mac OS? Was there a USB port in the ship?
Godzilla: Forgiving the idea that Godzilla was a mutant Iguana, how is it tunneling under New york city without causing serious damage to the infrastructure? Why would it be born pregnant? There's no evidence of any Reptile or Amphibian that is born pregnant! I know Godzilla's a mutant but this is still stupid.
He's actually gotten better with The Day After Tomorrow and 10,000 B.C. At least the Bad Science in those movies isn't something that any High School Student knows is pure bunk.
Armageddon, By (Suprise, Suprise) Michael Bay.
My Friend Told Me That At NASA They Make Them Point Out How Many Science Mistakes There Were In The Film
Armageddon, By (Suprise, Suprise) Michael Bay.
My Friend Told Me That At NASA They Make Them Point Out How Many Science Mistakes There Were In The Film
In my opinion, the biggest mistake is simultaneously saying that 1. The asteroid is REALLY HUGE.
2. The asteroid COULDN'T BE SEEN, it wasn't big enough. Hogwash, I say, hogwash!
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