What's the worst gun?

[Roamin11]

An unloaded one... I just can't get those ones to fire!!

 

[Pyro Paul]

Could be an AK74... they use a weaker intermediate cartridge than the M16. Could be an AK101, which uses 5.56. Could be something like a SIG 550 with modified sights and the guy was talking about the internals, but the 550 doesn't even LOOK like an AK47 externally. The issue is, the AKs are all Russian produced (or from other former Warsaw pact countries like Czechoslovakia). The 101 and 102 were intended for foreign consumers, however. As AT explained it to me

there is some validity in his statment.

a lot of small american gun companies and personal owners modify AKs to fit the american market or their own personal tastes.
things like this:

that is an AK-47... except modified to have a super short barrel.

they do everything from modifing the reciever to accept diffrent rounds, adding sites or the modular rail system, even changing the trigger grouping or placement of select fire.

i know of one guy that owns an AK-47 Bullpup

These are technically AK-47s because the user took an AK and did some amateur modification to it... it is just that these weapons are not really AK-47s... they are modified AKs and really lack any designation.

 

[OceanRunner]

The potato cannon. Sure, it stings, but a bullet from a real gun is so much more effective.

In all seriousness, the Desert Eagle.

I also agree with the spud gun.

 

[Starke]

Could be an AK74... they use a weaker intermediate cartridge than the M16. Could be an AK101, which uses 5.56. Could be something like a SIG 550 with modified sights and the guy was talking about the internals, but the 550 doesn't even LOOK like an AK47 externally. The issue is, the AKs are all Russian produced (or from other former Warsaw pact countries like Czechoslovakia). The 101 and 102 were intended for foreign consumers, however. As AT explained it to me

there is some validity in his statment.

a lot of small american gun companies and personal owners modify AKs to fit the american market or their own personal tastes.

Spoiler: things like this:

that is an AK-47... except modified to have a super short barrel.

they do everything from modifing the reciever to accept diffrent rounds, adding sites or the modular rail system, even changing the trigger grouping or placement of select fire.

Spoiler: i know of one guy that owns an AK-47 Bullpup

These are technically AK-47s because the user took an AK and did some amateur modification to it... it is just that these weapons are not really AK-47s... they are modified AKs and really lack any designation.

Okay, that explains the "American" AK he was handling, but now, how do we explain his inability to distinguish the sights?

 

[DefunctTheory]

ok im not gonna fight with you guys anymore beleave what you want. BTW just want to make this clear i have fired an AK 47 (which as you said may be an AK 74 or another of its close relitives though the armsman told me it was an AK 47 so if i was missinformed i apolize) it kicked less then my M 16 about the same as my M4 but then again it was a US made AK. I like the dam thing alot more then the M 16(or as me and a few others call it the plasic peace of shit not as much as my M4(and yes i know an M4 is an M 16 but smaller IDW i like it more maybe because its a bit more user friendly IDK) or my G 36 which is by far my favorit rifle

OT i now have a new hated weapon its called the UZI how can anyone use the inacuret peice of shit?

You criticize the M16 as being a plastic piece of shit, yet you prefer an M4. The weapon that is functionally the same as an M16, just with decreased range (Shorter barrel), more recoil (Shorter butts tock spring), gets dirtier, faster than the M16, much flimsier than the M16 due to its garbage stock, a miserable rear sight that does not have an adverse conditions back up, and, despite what you claim, is about as user friendly as an M16 (Which is possibly the most user friendly assault rifle ever produced, barring cleaning it). Right...

As for the Uzi, it does it's job remarkably well. Granted, its only job is to murder people at ranges from 0-50 meters, but it does it well anyway.

Okay, that explains the "American" AK he was handling, but now, how do we explain his inability to distinguish the sights?

You don't. Anyone who's used an M16 remembers the front sight post... that miserable thing has caused me more pain than any woman I can remember.

 

[gunmun]

Desurt Eagle

 

[Abanic]

These are the sort of things I was thinking of and wondering if anyone had any input on. I'm trying to limit the focus of the topic to guns that actually had a production, as opposed to some dangerous toy made by an amateur gunsmith.

This one actually sounds made up, but it was actually produced: the rocket pistol. A normal sized pistol that fires tiny rockets at the enemy. About 900 of these things were produced, some were tested for Vietnam, and one was featured in the James Bond movie You Only Live Twice. The type of weapon was called a Gyrojet, and the pistol was called "the Rocketeer". The company experimented with several other types of Gyrojets: pistol, rifle, assault rifle, carbine, derringer, & light machine gun.

Inaccurate + unreliable + and rounds that cost $100 each = worst gun ever!

 

[natster43]

Supposedly the XM8 was pretty shit, I still cant figure out why the Battlefield Bad Company games have a raging hard-on for it and its family.

I am pretty sure the XM8 was supposed to replace the M16 before they scrapped the Idea.
OT Probably the original M16. It would constantly jam, was hard to clean and the sight needed to constantly be readjusted.

 

[PabsColumbo]

The AK-47 is one of the worst. Yeah, it's a quick fire rate, and it almost never jams, but that doesn't fix the terrible accuracy, the strength needed to wield it(it's not heavy, but start firing it and you have a real problem with it not jerking up and blowing YOUR face off) the enormous recoil, and when it DOES finally overheat and jam, you can NEVER use it again.

Also, and I know I'm gonna catch a TON of flak for this, but fragmentation grenades and shotguns. They're both VERY situational,. and with the frag grenade you have as much chance of injuring/killing yourself as others if you don't use it properly.
And shotguns are pretty much pathetic if someone's more than 10 feet away from you.

If your using a 3 inch sabo deer slugs your going to be able to kill at 220-250 meters.

I've answered this about a million times. I was taking liberties with the aiming, and hunting slugs are different than battle slugs. A battle slug sprays areas with a larger radius to nullify a room and put people down faster. A hunting slug keeps the pellets closer together to do more damage.

Yeah sorry not buying that as an excuse, It can't be considered a situational weapon IF it can kill effectively at 220-250 meters with no modification (just change of ammo)

Either way by your standards doesn?t that mean the long barrelled Sniper rifles like Barrett M82 should be included; you just try and fire it in a close quarters fire fight

Better still why can?t we include guns with rubber bullets like some law enforcements come with they're pretty useless in a fire fight


Now on the .22 rifles, the Chinese use them for border control not for military engagements, forgive me for thinking that not killing people, merely incapacitating them is a good idea, but yeah it's still a bad gun, just stop riping on the border control, they don't want to kill!


And onto the AK sure it's a pig of a gun it kicks like a mule, but it does it on both ends AND it kills people for a few cents a gun, It's a whole lot better than your making it out, This is why it stood the test of time better than any other rifle

Oh and on the soviet doctrine to full auto fire, I call BULLSHIT, No military would ever encourage needless waste of ammunition and have never seen any evidence to the contrary, sure they have full auto as a sort of emergency use and many training exercises has use of full auto but never as a basis of military doctrine, It borders on retarded and makes no sense (economically or militarily)


So yeah I?d say the Desert eagle is one of the worst weapons, does it fit the purpose of a sidearm, no it?s heavy, it has horrible accuracy, range, recoil, and is horribly expensive to boot

BUT i have another weapon to add to the bunch, the .50 cal Beowulf AR 15; this had a worse kick than most modern assault rifles, worse range, Very expensive, and unreliable (It?s firing mechanisms where designed original for the .223 Remington and now it's firing a .50 cal round)

 

[Wadders]

Supposedly the XM8 was pretty shit, I still cant figure out why the Battlefield Bad Company games have a raging hard-on for it and its family.

I am pretty sure the XM8 was supposed to replace the M16 before they scrapped the Idea.
OT Probably the original M16. It would constantly jam, was hard to clean and the sight needed to constantly be readjusted.

It was. They scrapped the idea, because it was shit.

But yeah the fact that it was hoped to replace the M16 probably enticed the BF:BC developers to put it in their game.

 

[Enemy Of The State]

Rhodesian Uzi ('RUZI')

Manufactured as an Uzi clone during the Rhodesian Revolution. When it wasn't jamming, it would randomly burst-fire when the trigger was pulled once. Unreliable and prone to exploding.

 

[Starke]

Rhodesian Uzi ('RUZI')

Manufactured as an Uzi clone during the Rhodesian Revolution. When it wasn't jamming, it would randomly burst-fire when the trigger was pulled once. Unreliable and prone to exploding.

And I thought the Czech AK47s were bad...

OT i now have a new hated weapon its called the UZI how can anyone use the inacuret peice of shit?

As for the Uzi, it does it's job remarkably well. Granted, its only job is to murder people at ranges from 0-50 meters, but it does it well anyway.

My only experience was ass and recoil, but I wouldn't want to be down range of .45 slugs flying in those quantities.

Okay, that explains the "American" AK he was handling, but now, how do we explain his inability to distinguish the sights?

You don't. Anyone who's used an M16 remembers the front sight post... that miserable thing has caused me more pain than any woman I can remember.

Does the M16 uses the same front sight as the Z-M LR300? That fucking little spindly piece of shit forward sight between two "guards", who's only role is to make sure it's impossible to fix the fucking thing once it gets hit by a mild gust of wind? Or is it different? (Has no time on an M16 outside of games... oddly.)

 

[tigermilk]

Whats the worst gun? The one in the hand of the enemy!

p.s. Don't know if I have been ninja'd.