What's with all the ban requests?

[Casual Shinji]

Look at Zachary Amaranth... He just left in the quiet of the night without saying a word. That's how you leave.

I thought it was quiet around here. And less smug.

I don't know, I liked the guy. He had a knack for putting people in their place.

 

[Crimson Cade]

I love how people think they have a moral high ground on Brandon Morse when they will defend Bob "There are (almost) no bad tactics, only bad targets" Chipman to the bitter end. I came back to The Escapist because there is finally enough room for different perspectives to make the site engaging. And as long as this happens, I will maintain my paid subscription. Because gods know the online landscape needs more political and intellectual diversity and genuine openmindedness.

 

[FalloutJack]

Look at Zachary Amaranth... He just left in the quiet of the night without saying a word. That's how you leave.

I thought it was quiet around here. And less smug.

I don't know, I liked the guy. He had a knack for putting people in their place.

He didn't know how to turn it OFF. I can admit that there were some things he was right about. He was incapable of admitting that he was wrong, ever. Or if he actually did and I missed it, it was bloody rare. I'll accept that he had a certain command of knowledge, but I did not like him.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Most people demand a ban in protest. For what it's worth it's dramatic in execution, but that's because to get banned these people need to break the rules badly... But with recent hire who no one can shut up about, Brandon Morse... I can see why people have done it.

To my mind it's a less risky protest than say, protesting a communist government to your potential death, but the sentiment is the same.

 

[RedDeadFred]

It's the closest people get to going out with a bang I guess.
It just looks infantile.

When I think of going out with a bang, I think of Animehermit. People are usually so passive aggressive with their anger that when you actually see someone totally lose it on this site, it's quite shocking. Not advocating to do that obviously, it's just that asking for a ban seems like going out in denial of your own importance rather than going out with a bang.

Anyway, I agree. It's pretty juvenile IMO and just creates more drama for the sake of drama. Yes, you can say it's their form of protest, but going off of this thread, it seems like you're a lot less likely to be taken seriously if you leave in this manner. More likely you'll be either completely disregarded or have a thread made in your honor that questions your maturity.

Also, as babinro pointed out, leaving by getting yourself banned is actually going to be less effective when admins/owners/whoever look at the statistics. You'll be counted in the same groups as the delinquents, thereby making your protest even less valuable. This is of course assuming they don't keep a separate count for people who have actually requested their bans.

 

[Superbeast]

I think that the main reason people are requesting bans has nothing to do with wanting attention in the main, but rather that because there is no way to cancel your Escapist account it is the only way to pass a message to the staff/moderators/users that you are dissatisfied with the direction of travel of the site - especially given that certain people apply double-standards to people contacting them on Twitter. Thus it comes across as a cry for attention, because there is no other way to remove your account from the forum statistics than to request a ban.

 

[Bat Vader]

Kinda reminds me of how some people on YouTube will say unsubscribed on a YouTuber's video(s). It feels like they are trying to make some type of impact when in reality they really aren't.

 

[IceForce]

I love how people think they have a moral high ground on Brandon Morse when they will defend Bob "There are (almost) no bad tactics, only bad targets" Chipman to the bitter end. I came back to The Escapist because there is finally enough room for different perspectives to make the site engaging. And as long as this happens, I will maintain my paid subscription. Because gods know the online landscape needs more political and intellectual diversity and genuine openmindedness.

That hypocrisy goes both ways.

Because I often see the very same people who were decrying and condemning Bob for the things he said on twitter, saying that Morse should be given a free pass for the things that HE said on twitter.

 

[Crimson Cade]

I love how people think they have a moral high ground on Brandon Morse when they will defend Bob "There are (almost) no bad tactics, only bad targets" Chipman to the bitter end. I came back to The Escapist because there is finally enough room for different perspectives to make the site engaging. And as long as this happens, I will maintain my paid subscription. Because gods know the online landscape needs more political and intellectual diversity and genuine openmindedness.

That hypocrisy goes both ways.

Because I often see the very same people who were decrying and condemning Bob for the things he said on twitter, saying that Morse should be given a free pass for the things that HE said on twitter.

Oh, for sure. And I agree. You don't get to shit on one person who is in the "wrong camp" and then ignore shortcomings of another when he is in the "right camp". That is how you construct an echo-chamber, which is a tomb for any real discourse and personal growth.

 

[Sarge034]

If you make a thread about how you're leaving and how much you've come to hate this site or community and/or the direction it's heading in, then we'll just delete the thread.
We've done it quite a few times already.

We'll be having no drama llamas here, thankyouverymuch.

Just out of curiosity what is the reasoning behind deleting those threads? I mean specifically what rules in the CoC were they breaking? Because if it's simply the mod's prerogative to cull all the dissenting opinions, or drama as you put it, that's some REAL shady shit there...

Anyway, OT. If you leave and never come back it could be for any number of reasons. If you say I'm leaving because of *this* and request your profile be banned you're serious. Be kinnda like the difference between the Buddhist monks that simply walked away shaking their heads and the ones that self-immolated. We don't talk about, or even remember, the ones that just walked away do we? Case in point, I didn't even realize Zachary Amaranth was gone. I'm certainly not hurt by his departure, but I simply didn't know.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Eh, what I find it odd is stuff like with Cumwaffles on the first page. There's one posts where it says they've been banned for a post from another thread, and a later post in the same page where it says they've been banned for that one.

 

[PBMcNair]

I think it's a fair enough method. If you leave without making clear that you're doing so and why, then moderation/management/whomever may not notice. It's a straightforward protest-post, to make clear the depth of feeling.

Of course, the expletive-laden method is unideal, and devalues the whole thing. It's only worth a damn if you explain yourself civilly.

If they were making a statement on leaving, and not to be banned, I might agree. If they made their case and left, management may see a chance of regaining their favour. But being banned, they seem to be saying they will never return. What would they do if the site returned to what they want ? Request to be unbanned ? That seems rather entitled.

 

[PBMcNair]

If you make a thread about how you're leaving and how much you've come to hate this site or community and/or the direction it's heading in, then we'll just delete the thread.
We've done it quite a few times already.

We'll be having no drama llamas here, thankyouverymuch.

Just out of curiosity what is the reasoning behind deleting those threads? I mean specifically what rules in the CoC were they breaking? Because if it's simply the mod's prerogative to cull all the dissenting opinions, or drama as you put it, that's some REAL shady shit there...

What discussion value is there in having several threads that boil down to "screw you and you're new contributers, I'm out", all with absent or banned OP's ?

 

[JoJo]

Eh, what I find it odd is stuff like with Cumwaffles on the first page. There's one posts where it says they've been banned for a post from another thread, and a later post in the same page where it says they've been banned for that one.

I believe every infraction a user gets changes into a 'user was banned for this post' when they are banned, not just the final post that gets them the hammer which is linked below their other posts. Not sure if that is a glitch or a deliberate feature to symbolise that no-one (besides spammers) gets banned for a single infraction on this forum.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Eh, what I find it odd is stuff like with Cumwaffles on the first page. There's one posts where it says they've been banned for a post from another thread, and a later post in the same page where it says they've been banned for that one.

I believe every infraction a user gets changes into a 'user was banned for this post' when they are banned, not just the final post that gets them the hammer which is linked below their other posts. Not sure if that is a glitch or a deliberate feature to symbolise that no-one (besides spammers) gets banned for a single infraction on this forum.

Ah. That would make sense then.

 

[Silvanus]

If they were making a statement on leaving, and not to be banned, I might agree. If they made their case and left, management may see a chance of regaining their favour. But being banned, they seem to be saying they will never return. What would they do if the site returned to what they want ? Request to be unbanned ? That seems rather entitled.

Fair point, but I imagine those asking to be permabanned just aren't thinking of coming back.

 

[BeerTent]

When I see that sort of thing, this is what I imagine. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7WSgC9oGic&t=1m55s]

I kind of second Topaz, as well as a few others. It accomplishes nothing, makes you look like a fervent manchild, and doesn't actually address any problem at all. However, there is one thing I don't agree with...

Te site should not ban them. Just put a tag on their profile stating that they had requested to be banned, again, like a child. Anyone can see this tag but the poster. That way, when they inevitably return to school, we can all see it and laugh at them.

 

[Fox12]

I guess it's like the Buddhist monk setting himself on fire to protest something. Only, you know, not at all.

Can't leave with dignity, now can we?

 

[jhoroz]

Look at Zachary Amaranth... He just left in the quiet of the night without saying a word. That's how you leave.

I thought it was quiet around here. And less smug.

I don't know, I liked the guy. He had a knack for putting people in their place.

He didn't know how to turn it OFF. I can admit that there were some things he was right about. He was incapable of admitting that he was wrong, ever. Or if he actually did and I missed it, it was bloody rare. I'll accept that he had a certain command of knowledge, but I did not like him.

I was actually looking forward to posting again in this forum once he left. Shame now that the site has kind of gone to shit.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I have read a few people asking to be banned. It confused me so I scrolled past them. It took me all of 3 seconds to forget who they are.