What's with the shield against criticism Nintendo gets?
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Re-hashing imo isn't worthy of criticism alone period, as long as it's not the exact same game with a different title claiming to be a different game, then imo there's nothing wrong with it, as long as first game was good, or the second game did it much better. Which, imo, nintendo tends to improve on their games as more of them come out imo. Just sayin'.
Also, on a slightly off-topic note: What is with all these 'What's with' threads? I am somewhat new here, are these threads made often?
Also, on a slightly off-topic note: What is with all these 'What's with' threads? I am somewhat new here, are these threads made often?
Ummm... I actually dont get it...RandallJohn said:I don't know what you're talking about.Geo Da Sponge said:
Anyways, With Mario, After the jump to 3D, I dont see any need for innovation. Of course im one of those ppl that perfers 2D to 3D,
as oppose to
and also, Im one of those people that would like to Hear VA in Zelda...
On the subject of VA in Zelda, it could definitely work... As long as they absolutely NEVER give link dialogue.
Maybe it's because they honestly do keep making damn good games. If nothing else, Mario stays different every game
The guy in my avy is "The Nostalgia Critic," who is known for negatively reviewing nostalgic movies and TV shows.WanderingFool said:Ummm... I actually dont get it...RandallJohn said:I don't know what you're talking about.Geo Da Sponge said:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic
I play mario galaxy 2: It's a shit load of fun.
Much more so than nearly any other game this year.
So yeah, I'll give them a pass.
Much more so than nearly any other game this year.
So yeah, I'll give them a pass.
Gonna go against a few common arguments here.
"They're all the same. Just look at the two Galaxy games."
Typically, the strongest element of a platformer is its level design. Because of this, you don't always need a huge list of new features in a sequel. Normally, they do a lot to mix it up (compare Mario World, Mario 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy 1), but the feeling I get is that they didn't get to do everything they wanted with Galaxy 1. Galaxy 2 has fantastic level design, so I don't mind that it took the original mechanics and added a few new power ups.
This also tends to pop up against Zelda. I like to point out that not only are the level design of the dungeons and boss-fight mechannics important enough to carry the series, they also tend to put twists into an endlessly repeating legend to add some freshness to the plot. Not to mention the series tends to occasionally use a completely different art style.
The third biggest target of this criticism seems to be Pokemon. Honestly, I'm more of a casual pokemon fan, so someone else maybe able to go into detail on that one. I know the math behind the combat gets more complex and the number of pokemon to choose from continues to grow, and that's pleanty of variety right there.
"They're lazy...the new Donkey Kong and Kirby are sidescrollers."
I don't get why making a game in a certain style is a sign of laziness. Sidescrollers are not inferior to 3D; they are simply different. I think it's great that Nintendo is getting in on the retro movement that's been popular with platformers and fighters, and I'd love to see it catch on in other genres (especially RPGs and Shooters)
"They keep using the same franchises. Where' the originality?"
Actually, they've been releasing at least one new franchise per generation. In fact, the only nintendo platform I can't recall having any new franchises is the gameboy color.
Arcade--Mario
NES--Legend of Zelda
SNES--Star Fox
N64--Super Smash Bros.
GCN--Pikmin
Wii--Wii [Noun]
GB--Pokemon
GBA--Golden Sun
DS--Nintendogs
It's not that they don't come up with new franchises...they just keep most of them alive throughout the years.
"They're all the same. Just look at the two Galaxy games."
Typically, the strongest element of a platformer is its level design. Because of this, you don't always need a huge list of new features in a sequel. Normally, they do a lot to mix it up (compare Mario World, Mario 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy 1), but the feeling I get is that they didn't get to do everything they wanted with Galaxy 1. Galaxy 2 has fantastic level design, so I don't mind that it took the original mechanics and added a few new power ups.
This also tends to pop up against Zelda. I like to point out that not only are the level design of the dungeons and boss-fight mechannics important enough to carry the series, they also tend to put twists into an endlessly repeating legend to add some freshness to the plot. Not to mention the series tends to occasionally use a completely different art style.
The third biggest target of this criticism seems to be Pokemon. Honestly, I'm more of a casual pokemon fan, so someone else maybe able to go into detail on that one. I know the math behind the combat gets more complex and the number of pokemon to choose from continues to grow, and that's pleanty of variety right there.
"They're lazy...the new Donkey Kong and Kirby are sidescrollers."
I don't get why making a game in a certain style is a sign of laziness. Sidescrollers are not inferior to 3D; they are simply different. I think it's great that Nintendo is getting in on the retro movement that's been popular with platformers and fighters, and I'd love to see it catch on in other genres (especially RPGs and Shooters)
"They keep using the same franchises. Where' the originality?"
Actually, they've been releasing at least one new franchise per generation. In fact, the only nintendo platform I can't recall having any new franchises is the gameboy color.
Arcade--Mario
NES--Legend of Zelda
SNES--Star Fox
N64--Super Smash Bros.
GCN--Pikmin
Wii--Wii [Noun]
GB--Pokemon
GBA--Golden Sun
DS--Nintendogs
It's not that they don't come up with new franchises...they just keep most of them alive throughout the years.
Actually, a minor nitpick here. Golden Sun wasn't developed by Nintendo, but rather by the second-party studio Camelot Software Planning [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_Software_Planning], the same people who work on the Mario Sports titles. They're not exactly owned by Nintendo, but they've entered an agreement with Nintendo to only publish for Nintendo consoles. This is also why Waluigi doesn't get a lot of screen time in Nintendo-developed games.starwarsgeek said:
A better example for a Nintendo franchise started on the GBA would be the Rhythm Tengoku games, but the GBA one was never released outside of Japan. The second one, Rhythm Tengoku Gold, was also released in the West under the title Rhythm Heaven.