Whats wrong with dirty work

[Simalacrum]

dont worry i got the okay from 2 of my gay friends to use the term gayed up, im in the clear =P

Are you... no... you can't be... are you pure... stupid?

no, no, i'm an expert on "pure stupid" analysis, this person is not... you, on the other hand, may be

 

[GothmogII]

I make my niche in the home building business, doing all kinds of work.

It gets pretty nasty at times, but I tell you what; it feels great to get home at the end of the day and unwind. So great that the meager pay and harsh conditions are completely tolerable.

The biggest problem society has right now with work ethic is that everybody keeps being told that they're so damn special and unique, throughout their entire childhood when core values such as hard work and integrity should be put into them instead. Now we've got everybody insisting that they're a poet among peons, and that they should be worshiped simply because they think their dubious individuality makes them more valuable than most others.

Incidentally, isn't the opposite of that that: You are a worthless cog of the machine, suitable only for what we have trained you for. You will do the job we choose for you without complaint. Your individuality is meaningless, as is your life, should you die you will be easily replaced.

Then that's just as an extreme as your statement. However, I'm sure there -are- people telling their children how they are so special and unique, but not to the extent that it's creating feckless adults who refuse to do the 'dirty' jobs. That's more of a result of parents wanting better for their children, they don't -want- them to have to work as hard as they did, to have to go what they went through. This however becomes twisted slightly when the children have grown up not having similar experiences as their parents, and simply not knowing how hard things could or should be.

 

[GothmogII]

I love how you seem to think manual labour constitutes honest work. How ignorant of you.

That is a little bit of an irk for me too. Work is work. Sure, some work is easier than others to perform. But mending pipes isn't any more or less 'honest' than programming spreadsheets.

 

[Sevre]

I refuse to get my hands dirty, if you want I'll type up an article on 10 reasons why you should get your hands dirty but I'm NOT going to get my hands dirty. Dirty.Dirty hands.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

I make my niche in the home building business, doing all kinds of work.

It gets pretty nasty at times, but I tell you what; it feels great to get home at the end of the day and unwind. So great that the meager pay and harsh conditions are completely tolerable.

The biggest problem society has right now with work ethic is that everybody keeps being told that they're so damn special and unique, throughout their entire childhood when core values such as hard work and integrity should be put into them instead. Now we've got everybody insisting that they're a poet among peons, and that they should be worshiped simply because they think their dubious individuality makes them more valuable than most others.

Incidentally, isn't the opposite of that that: You are a worthless cog of the machine, suitable only for what we have trained you for. You will do the job we choose for you without complaint. Your individuality is meaningless, as is your life, should you die you will be easily replaced.

Then that's just as an extreme as your statement. However, I'm sure there -are- people telling their children how they are so special and unique, but not to the extent that it's creating feckless adults who refuse to do the 'dirty' jobs. That's more of a result of parents wanting better for their children, they don't -want- them to have to work as hard as they did, to have to go what they went through. This however becomes twisted slightly when the children have grown up not having similar experiences as their parents, and simply not knowing how hard things could or should be.

The latter part of your response is more along the lines what I was originally trying to convey. But it doesn't just stop at the parents; mind you, it's permeated the school system, as well. As part of the new snotty, superior generation (I'm seventeen), I can tell you first-hand that it's becoming a genuine problem. All throughout grade school, as early as I remember, nobody emphasized effort; instead, it was all a cult (so to speak) of self-esteem boosting and child worship.

There's a big difference between a healthy ego and unwarranted self-importance; parents and schools are actively contributing to the latter by telling children that they're perfect the way they are, and should never ever have to change or attempt to better themselves because they'll always be a special snowflake that the rest of the world will be forced to respect. And then they're kicked into the real world, where they ***** incessantly about their rights and how they shouldn't have to do certain jobs that they think they're too superior to do.

(Also, I'd like to add that I was born into an upper-middle class family, so this isn't a tirade against them gall-derned rich folk an them there fancy jobs.)

 

[Inverse Skies]

I washed dishes for two years in a kitchen and would not recommend it to anyone, it was horrible foul work with ordinary pay. The only thing that kept me there is the people were really nice, then the managers changed so I got out quick smart.

I now work in a bottleshop which is soooo much better, no getting dirty there!

It's just the idea of getting dirty is so... ordinary, its not nice to come home from work and be smelly and foul in general.

 

[chefassassin2]

I've been working in kitchens for about 15 years now, and most people consider it to be "dirty work". I wouldn't trade it for a cushy desk job anywhere! Long hours, dealing with fabricating meat, hot kitchens, hell yeah!! I have no problem with people who don't want to do it, just give a little respect for the people who do have the 'dirty jobs".

 

[Daniel Cygnus]

Dirty work is more of the equivalent of manual labor. And people believe manual labor is for those of less intelligences, and in a society where intelligence is becoming increasingly valued it is frowned upon. Not saying I AGREE just saying that's how it is.

Have you ever read Vonnegut's Player Piano? Everything that can be automated is, and there are these tests that determine what job you'll have. The highest scores are executives and people who know machines, and the lowest scores either go to the Army or construction. Especially creepy, considering it was written in the 50's and IMO we're already seeing it today.

As for the general unwillingness for people to do dirty work, I think it has something to do with the attitude that there's always someone else who'd be willing to do it, for money, no less.

 

[Sgt. Dante]

Being made redundant has really put a dent in my work ethic, but i'd happily take a manual job, money's money...

That said I recently did a bit of landscaping (fancy talk for digging holes) and I found it quite fun, and a good bit of excersise.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Dirty work is more of the equivalent of manual labor. And people believe manual labor is for those of less intelligences, and in a society where intelligence is becoming increasingly valued it is frowned upon. Not saying I AGREE just saying that's how it is.

Yep. This is true, even among people who do manual labor themselves. Some of the people I work with were amazed when they found out I had engineering qualifications.

Not that manual work is fun or anything its shitty work no doubt but pay respect to the people who do it, it is definently hard. Bleh anyway back to job hunting from now on then i guess.

My work is an absolute blast. Outdoors every day, spots of gardening, gentle sweeping, even climbing trees. I get to see wildlife, meet new people all the time, and it keeps me very fit. I would do it for free if I didn't need money.

 

[Oopsie]

Yep. This is true, even among people who do manual labor themselves. Some of the people I work with were amazed when they found out I had engineering qualifications.

My work is an absolute blast. Outdoors every day, spots of gardening, gentle sweeping, even climbing trees. I get to see wildlife, meet new people all the time, and it keeps me very fit. I would do it for free if I didn't need money.

Listen to this man. For he is wise.

Working should not be about the amount of money you drag in. Working should not be you caring about what other people may or may not think about your intellect. Working should be about enjoying yourself WHEN you work.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Two years ago I was a garbage man, which is arguably the dirtiest job, because I needed money for university. It was weird but interesting work. All the old guys who did it for life where shocked to find I was a student. They said a lot of kids who come in and do the job for the summer don't complete their contract because they couldn't do the actual physical labour or get up in time for the job. I guess it?s easier to be motivated when you really really need money. I did get a lot of abuse from friends though but their parents where carrying them through University so they really couldn?t say much. It was alright work but I don?t think I will ever do it again.

The next year I worked in call centre and that sucked deeply. Not only do people hate you, you end up hating yourself. I quit that job a week early after being told off for not ?up selling? a DVD box set of bible stories to a Sunday school teacher. I am not a Christian but I got a conscience. The place was just so boring.

This year I will be applying for various police forces but I will earn some money working for a family friend?s Landscaping company. I am just happy I will be working out doors. The office damn near killed me.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Two years ago I was a garbage man, which is arguably the dirtiest job, because I needed money for university.

..it is also arguably the most important job. The garbage men are the guys who get filthy and do back breaking physical labor so that we aren't all living in caves carved out of our own filth and discarded cornflakes packets. If every single call centre worker never showed up to work for a year a few of us might get pissed off about it. If every single garbage man stopped working for a year the consequences to society would be appauling.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Wow I feel really important now. It is true though the "dirty" jobs are often the ones that keep society going.