What's your controversial opinion?

[Dango]

Science has not, and never will, rule out the exist of a higher power.

Despite not being religious, I believe religion is one of the most beneficial parts of humanity, and it is what has caused us to progress for thousands of years.

Killing someone is never justified, with the exception of having no other alternative to saving another's life.

I agree on points 1 and 3.
How ever with 2 you are so very wrong. We progressed as a species because we were curios, because we had a desire to see how things worked.
Religion says it's magic so deal with it. Saying god done it gets us to the arse end of no-where and can even prevent our progress. Go ask Galileo.

Galileo's studies never would have occurred without support from the Pope and other officials within the church.

Religion is what funded and provided nearly all advances in society, art, and science during the Renaissance and Medieval periods.

Fuck the renaissance. Ancient Greece was on the verge of an industrial revolution and the celts had mapped the stars, almost all was lost because of the roman empire, especially when the Pope took over and thousands of "pagan" writings were burned, like all the books in the library of Alexandria. But ironically anything we know about the celts and Druids was saved thanks to Irish monks
But then of course, we should never have been in the situation in the first place.

Tl;DR the Renaissance was just us rediscovering this the Greeks discovered 1500 years before hand.

The Roman Empire would have screwed up everything, Christian or not. Pre-Christianity it was just an empire based off propaganda and nationalist extremism.

True, but at least try saved some of the stuff they collected before the church went nuts when it first came to power.

Saving a bit of the stuff they collected of the stuff doesn't really matter when you murder or enslave almost everyone associated with it.

exactly which is why the roman empire was just awful.
But things didn't get better afterwords let's be honest.

Yes, but you can't only blame religion for most of it.

Okay good point, that is true.
But it didn't help a lot of the time either, give me that much

I will.

Also, you seem nice, so here's a cookie:

Spoiler: Nom!

OMGCOOKIENOM!
-ahem-
Well thank you kind sir, I try not my best not to be an ass and stay pragmatic
You too seem nice and intelligent, may I be bold enough to add you as a friend? :L

Sure, I'll add you now.

 

[Raven_Operative]

so this topic is just a guise for a lets hate religion topic eh?

YUP!

Enjoy the bonfire!

 

[Vault101]

ME2 was better than ME1....BAM!!

I'm sorry, that isn't controversial, unless you enjoyed spending several hours digging out the six or seven quotes that existed outside the storyline.

err...I mean, OH SNAP, HONKEYS BE TRIPPIN'!

umm.....yes....yes I did

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.

The ideals of socialism are in direct opposition to the most fundamental principles of human nature, therefore socialism will never be practicable. Do a little research into what happens when people try to implement socialism. History of the USSR would be a great place to start.

I disagree, it's all relative to how people are raised. That and the USSR was implemented poorly.
You can't make the jump from monarchy to capitalist to communism in the space of three years ish.
You have to ease into, make it gradual so people don't freak out.

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

I know Zaik, for the most part, was being ironic and realistic, but really? Biology disagrees with some of your points. Sexual assault is abit hard without a penetrating object. Women are more likely to recieve less wages, because most civilised countries make business continue to pay some of their wages if they become pregnant (Essentially, pay while you raise!).

The argument that 'women are less than men' is largely defunct in today's society, but women and menhaters continue to refer to backward arguments as justification.

or, simply put, we're mostly the same, so stop complaining when you have to eat shit, we all have to eat shit, do your part and shut the fuck up like the rest of us.

Agreed, we all have to eat shit so let's just get on with it and stop fighting over insignificant things.
But to deny women have been and still to this day to a degree have been treated poorly by men is just close-minded/retarded.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

Almost absolutely everything in most of today's societies is stupid.
The grading system (talking about education, obviously) most countries use is discouraging as hell, people are allowed to use "free speech" as an excuse for making fun of difference to themselves, governments can't seem to find a solution other than death, people prefer a 2000-year-old book as evidence instead of observation and proof, and humanity in general is ignorant. Still waiting for an apocalypse

 

[S3Cs4uN 8]

Stalin was a genius

wow finally some one agrees with me just look what happened to the USSR after he died.

Spoiler: FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!!

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i shall one up your communist smiley...

...with a soviet space marine!

 

[coolkirb]

so this topic is just a guise for a lets hate religion topic eh?

YUP!

Enjoy the bonfire!

Well then my controversial opinion is that people who think the world would be better off without religion are just looking for a scape goat. Religion like everything has its negative and positive points, and changing the world so that everyone is an atheist wont solve all the problems.

 

[Marik2]

I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.

Yeah I too have that mentality of sex.

And Im also a virgin.

I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.

You mean like a woman gets raped and then she has a baby and loves her?

That kinda love?

 

[Zaik]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

That's a bit of a stretch. I wasn't talking about attractive men. I was talking about any men.

Shouldn't women be getting hired more than men and getting more promotions if they do equal work for less? But no, they need Affirmative Action and, according to you, that still isn't enough to justify having a woman work for you. I wonder why?

ANSWER: Dunno, but wouldn't easier targets make more sense? That tends to feed into my inferiority argument, not take away from it. You could ask me what the ratio of children to adult men kidnapped is too, it's just as silly.

Correct guess. I'm guessing you aren't allergic to penicillin. I'm probably right too, it's easy to guess correct when you pick the option with 95% odds.

"What they've been through" is no excuse.

 

[Raven_Operative]

*SNIP*

Spoiler: I'll see your space marine, and raise you a tesla trooper!

 

[dstryfe]

Well all right, let's give this a go, then. I don't see how it could possibly be offensive, as it's the shit end of a double standard, but I get a ton of flak for this, so it's in spoilers. If you're offended easily, then don't read it.

Spoiler: Women

"Don't hit a girl" is the most accepted bunch of rubbish outside of "asking for it" with skimpy clothes. If you want to be treated equally, expect me to bloody well hit you back when you hit me; I won't suffer a punch from you any more than I would suffer one from a man, nor will I resist throwing a rock at you when you've just thrown one at me. If you pick a fight with me, expect me to fight back.

 

[Johnny Impact]

There's just as much truth in the Bible as there is in the theory of evolution.

How anyone chooses to interprate this is up to them.

You're confusing truth, fact, and theory. Apples and oranges, my friend.

 

[Zaik]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

"westernized woman" huh?...its funny most women I know are nothing like that,

I can agree that ON AVERGAE men are stronger....but smarter? bullshit intelligence has nothing to do with gender

anyway...

1.Daddy issues? nope I dont have daddy issues..my dad was great

2. personallity disorder? nope

3.insecurites? oh sure we all have insecurities..right now I feel pretty good though

4. babies and coddled? I had a pretty good life but I owuldnt go that far

5. sex as a means to live? nope...havnt even gone there...

a 'Normal" man, you know what? theres no such thing, people are peopel not genders you cant generalize them like that, sure theres certian chrachteristics and such but like I said we are induviduals

also Im not going to counter by saying "but MEN are..." thats pointless, honestly unless you have some serious issues with women (cant get a girlfreind? just wondering...) I dont see how in this day and age anyone can honestly belive that

Yep, here it is. I've been waiting on this one ever since my first post in this thread. I'm going to skip the rest of your post for a minute and point out that your rationalization for my behavior is that I am incapable of getting a woman, therefore I have resorted to hating all women. You just proved my entire point. Thank you.

I do have to say though, I am surprised to see another woman today take the high road and not devolve into pointless insults. That's two more women doing it than I usually see. I'm not sure how to handle that in percentages, it's like 2/0.

 

[Marik2]

I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.

Ironically enough, saying what you've said is against the forum rules. Not that I'm encouraging you to back down, I think it's a pretty silly rule; it stifles what can be an interesting discussion because it's slightly uncomfortable?

A couple of users have been banned for it anyway.

I think the reason its not aloud to be discussed is cuz there was like so many threads on that topic that it just got retarded and the staff didnt want to let it keep going cuz its gonna give a bad impression to newcomers.

I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.

You mean like a woman gets raped and then she has a baby and loves her?

That kinda love?

No. But, like, 0.1%. I do not support rape.

I know you dont.

But thats kinda wut happened in watchmen(she sorta forgave him for the rape cuz her daughter brought her joy); I dont recall her falling in love to the comedian.

 

[MagnetoHydroDynamics]

I think that religion and science are not diametrically opposed.
They can coexist, and explain each other.
But NEVER EVER should religion be taken for science or science for religion.

You don't believe in relativity. Relativity is a fact.
You don't prove god's existence. God is belief.
Period.

Also, I think it should be a social (not criminal) offence to be aggressively ignorant.
A social offence is something that you get stigmatized for socially.
Aggressive ignorance is refusal to acquire knowledge.

Also, I think USA is a horrible country and I would never ever want to go there.
I think Americanisation is a horrible blight and cancer that has been infecting the world for far too long. I am so going to learn German some day, just to get a different world view.

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

That's a bit of a stretch. I wasn't talking about attractive men. I was talking about any men.

Shouldn't women be getting hired more than men and getting more promotions if they do equal work for less? But no, they need Affirmative Action and, according to you, that still isn't enough to justify having a woman work for you. I wonder why?

ANSWER: Dunno, but wouldn't easier targets make more sense? That tends to feed into my inferiority argument, not take away from it. You could ask me what the ratio of children to adult men kidnapped is too, it's just as silly.

Correct guess. I'm guessing you aren't allergic to penicillin. I'm probably right too, it's easy to guess correct when you pick the option with 95% odds.

"What they've been through" is no excuse.

Well I think it is still an excuse because it still happening and it takes generations for some grinder so deep into someones psyche.

And no the reason women still don't get hired more is because the men who are in charge still think the women are to inferior.
They also see them as threats, just slightly obscure example, a huge amount of fishing records are held by women, men thought that it was impossible that these women were better at fishing then them, that it must be a pheromone that women give off.

The reason I brought up White male is because of the same thing of reverse racism, sure it's bad but you can't forget that THESE THINGS STILL HAPPENED.

Dude, I don't want to go down this road, it's embarrassing and I look weak, but you need to get laid. Big time :/

 

[chiggerwood]

I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.

Wow! I was starting to think I was the only one here that thought this. You're lucky you've only gotten weird looks, both my brothers, and my father accused me of being gay because I wasn't chasing tail, and I am not ashamed to say that I let my mom deal with them; she promised (not threatened) to put them in the hospital if they gave me any shit ever again.

OT: 1. I sincerely don't see the problem with somebody living with their parents until they're married, financially stable, and/or whatever. As long as the parents have no issue with it, they pay rent, help around the house, and don't act like entitled assholes, or any other type of asshole, and if want your parents to live with you kudos.

 

[Naix99]

I think that religion and science are not diametrically opposed.
They can coexist, and explain each other.
But NEVER EVER should religion be taken for science or science for religion.

You don't believe in relativity. Relativity is a fact.
You don't prove god's existence. God is belief.
Period.

Also, I think it should be a social (not criminal) offence to be aggressively ignorant.
A social offence is something that you get stigmatized for socially.
Aggressive ignorance is refusal to acquire knowledge.

Also, I think USA is a horrible country and I would never ever want to go there.
I think Americanisation is a horrible blight and cancer that has been infecting the world for far too long. I am so going to learn German some day, just to get a different world view.

Technically Relativity is still pretty much a theory!

That's a fact!