What's your controversial opinion?

[Brockyman]

Well since there's been a thread that asked what opinion you had that others disagreed with, I'm taking it a step further. What opinion do you have that might cause outrage? (game hate when among said game's fanboys not withstanding.) If you feel the need, spoiler it, and put in the spoiler tag who it may offend.

Spoiler: devout religious people

I want to preface this by saying that I am a huge fan of culture and tradition, and for that reason, I do believe that various religious practices and ceremonies should continue due to their traditional and cultural value. However, while tradition can be important to maintain the identity of your people (If you're that kind of person) I do feel that when it comes to logical and scientific decision making, religion should not be factored, and until it is removed as a factor from important decisions like this, humanity is being held back. This can range from decisions of logic and safety, like the use of condoms, to steps in science such as Stem Cell research. While I appreciate the philosophical and moral aspects of this, the religious aspect of such an opinion is only getting in the way of dealing with it reasonably. I would say that the best solution would be some kind of checkbox when donating sperm, or eggs to a fertility clinic. Removing the emotional attachment a pregnant woman might feel towards the life growing inside her will help I realize it sounds a little harsh, and am only stating it as a step in the right direction. If I had to give a historical example, I would point out how several interpretations of religion forbade the dissection of humans, and it was only with the founding of the Greek city of Alexandria that things slowly came about to a more logical point of view.

It isn't my intention to pointlessly offend, and I have tried to state my argument in a reasonable way, suitable for a level headed debate.

Edit: Also, the forum posting button freaked out on me, I don't know if it'll mess stuff up.

Thank you for making this thread... It really shows me just how damned stupid some of these people are.

 

[The Hero Killer]

I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.

I used to think the exact same way. People should just create things because we need them, not for any reward.

Also I feel that people need to stop grouping together the pehdophile who molests small children and the 20 year old male who is in a sexual relationship with a willing and knowledgeable underage...say 16 year old female. Statutory rape my ass.

 

[Nouw]

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Enlightened! Thank you very much.

Extra Sentence to prevent 'low content post' warning.

 

[lostlambda]

leninism works

 

[Custard_Angel]

Atheists extend just as much of a stretch of faith as Christians.

 

[Brockyman]

I'm a Christian and yet I actually have no problems with secularism. Does that mean I'm Satan? :O

PS> And yeah, I'm serious

Well considering that Jesus was advocating the separation of church and state when he said give ceaser wut belongs to him and give God wut belongs to him.

So Christians shouldnt have a problem with secularism, really.

Jesus wasn't promoting the separation of church and state with the "give unto Caesar" quote. He basically told people to pay their taxes. Plus he was showing up the person who gave him a loaded question to trap him as a revolutionary.

However, there are other examples that show a separation of church and state are a good thing, both in the Bible and in History.

The issues "most" Christians have with "secularism" is that atheists and other secularist have launch an attack on them and their believes. Look at all the religious hate on this one thread, and you'll see why Christians get so pissed. In the same post people put "people should be able to do what they want" but bash religion.

Everyone is getting so damned thin skinned now. Check out MovieBob's whining about his reviews. Atheists, liberals, Christians, Conservatives, libertarians, Muslims, everyone gets so damned offened about everything.

My advice to the world: Just the f*ck up, live your life, and stop getting so offended.

Side Note: Post not directed at the quoted poster... just a rant

 

[Brandon237]

Religion should have no impact on science or politics what-so-ever. ever. (not controversial here, but controversial almost anyway else).

And people should have to have certain medical, financial and parenting tests before they are allowed to have children, if they do not meet the requirements, they can either do what they have to meet them, get the test again and then have children; or just not have children.
I'm sorry, but in this day and age Eugenics, especially in 3rd world countries, is all too necessary.

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

Spoiler

I think communism is sort of a good idea. i like the all fraternity thing, but it has it's flaws. what i like is the banking system, and no offense, but only a communist dictator can have the power to fix the economy.

Spoiler

i think religion like christianity(the extremist part) can fuck right off. Religion should have no involvment in politics or science.

hey,i was raised a communist. there was no jesus, and lenin cam down our chimney, and marx was like god. XD

 

[marcooos]

Removed because it was a fucking stupid post on my part

 

[teebeeohh]

Religion is holding the world back and always has.
All soldiers are murderers, unless they were drafted and haven't killed anyone yet.
Democracy is dead and needs an overhaul before the system is so broken it can't be salvaged and we get stuck with something even worse.
Without nostalgia the N64 is a piece of crap and always has been.
The US does not know how to make proper beer.
Napoleon was the best thing to ever happen to Europe.

 

[Kyougi Ryu]

- Super Mario Sunshine is a horrible game, while Luigi's Mansion is a gem.
- Blue Shift is the best Half-Life 1 Expansion
- Physical Education in schools needs to be trashed unless it's actually about physical education. I can only speak based on what happens in my school (which is a horrible, horrible place run by people with no idea what they're doing) but giving me grades in PE based on my knowledge of the rules of badminton is bullshit.
- Sports stars shouldn't get paid anywhere near the amount they do

 

[Radelaide]

Okay I'll bite:

Firstly, I'm Pro-Choice:
A baby isn't a baby till it's born (alive or dead). Until then, it is a paracite feeding off a host. All this "it's a human life" bullshit is made up to make a woman feel guilty and give birth to a child that could be resented as a result of rape, be unwanted at the time of conception (I'm 20 years old and don't want a child at this time. If I was to get pregnant, I would abort), or have physical or mental defects that could severely limit quality of life for both parents, family and child.

Just because I'm depressed does NOT make me an emo:
This pisses me off more than anything in most cases. I have an anxiety disorder and depression and I try to make sure it does not affect those around me. But sometimes if you don't have an outlet, it just does. I may cry in public, or listen to certain bands, but that doesn't make me an emo, it just makes me a sad music fan. Also, depression isn't something that can be cured by just 'perking up'. It takes months to be able to smile about something and years to feel 'cured'. That may require medication and therapy, but it's not "Oh, lets hug and it'll be all better."

Religion can stay out of my politics:
Just because you have imaginary friends that say "sex before marriage is a sin", doesn't mean I have the same imaginary friends that believe that. The majority should not have to be rounded up by rules made by the minority.

That's it for now, if I think of anything else, I'll let you know.


Edit:

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

I don't know what women have been using and abusing you, but you're definitely speaking about a minority as opposed to a majority who suck it up and take it. Most women have to take on the responsibilities of a man while being forced to act femine so they don't alienate everyone else.

Edit 2:
Gonzo porn should be banned. Watch it and tell me it shouldn't. I was actually listening to an interview from a woman who did a study on the masturbating habits of men and how it affected their sex lives, and the ones who used Gonzo (SeeL Violent, degrading, dangerous porn) tried to bring it in to the bedroom. They found it was harder for them to climax by just have vanilla sex and the women who allowed it (or felt intimidated in to it) felt disgusting afterwards. I'm aware there are fetishes out there, but violent stuff that's out there already is doing more harm than good. (ALSO, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PORN BEFORE YOU ASK)

 

[spartandude]

While i dont completely agree with what this man did, i dont think Stalin was evil.

 

[Manwat]

Death Penalty

Seriously: I don't want a fucking shithead eating up tax dollars. I've heard arguments that it's crueler to let them rot, it's inhumane and that sometimes innocent people die. Well boohoo, people die every day.

 

[Toriver]

Human life begins from the moment of conception; ergo, whether or not anyone thinks it should be legal or not, I do see abortion as killing, and in the great majority of cases, wrong.

I believe in God, and am a confirmed Catholic. I think the Catholic church and many of the more moderate Protestant churches (Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Presbyterians) have been sitting on their asses in the developed world (by that I mean the US, Canada, Europe, Australia) and doing nothing to keep people in those countries in the fold, because I think they're too scared to speak up and actually get into the debate. This is a major unspoken part of the largely negative view many have of religion nowadays. If you let the news media, which tends to only report negative stories about anyone or anything, control public perception of you, of course you're going to be seen in a bad light. People will only see you for your checkered past and the (relatively few) mistakes you make now, not for the great good that you do in people's lives and for the world at large. They won't know that those churches have greatly changed from the way they were even in the 1950s. The only Christians who seem to be speaking up on their own to defend their faith are fundamentalists, and they're only making it worse. Catholicism and moderate Protestant churches need a revival in the developed world in a serious way. Their leaders really need to grow some balls.

I don't exactly have the highest opinion of Europe right now, neither their governments nor their people, and I do mean the UK too. I cannot think of a polite way to explain my reasons why, so I won't.

I believe marijuana should, for the most part, remain illegal in the US, except in pill form by prescription.

 

[Ariseishirou]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

Lol, "westernized" women are "racists"? And "westernized" men aren't?

Suuuuure is neckbeardy up in here. Or trolly. I sincerely hope the latter because it's hard to believe anyone could possibly be that insecure.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

Mass Effect 2 was better than the first, ditto for Portal 2.

The demo for Beyond Good and Evil was shite and has subsequently destroyed any interest I might have for that title.

Blade Runner was increadibly underwhelming and Forrest Gump is absolute bollocks.

Shaun of the Dead is the best comedy film ever made.

Fundamentalists need to die, as they are a detriment to society.

I'm a fan of prog, yet I call fans of early black metal pretentious, elitist, cunts (qualifier: most of them anyway.)

Also, Robert Christgau deserves to be unemployed.

 

[nbamaniac]

I agree with the death penalty stance..

Heck even convicts are lucky were giving them a fast and painless death unlike in the Middle ages (i.e. hanging drawing and quartering).. So f*ck you criminals' you're all lucky...

 

[marcooos]

The coddling of stupidity needs to stop.

If a pedestrian steps off a sidewalk without even looking and gets smashed by a truck, he deserved to be smashed.

If a woman balances a cup of fresh coffee in her crotch, then fidgets around so it tips and burns her, she deserved to get burned.

If a man disables the safety on his power tool and cuts his fingers off, he didn't deserve a full set of fingers anyway.

If you drive with a cell phone in one hand and coffee in the other while putting on your makeup in the rearview and you wreck your car, you didn't deserve the car in the first place.

And so on. I can't believe this is even controversial -- but it is. It sickens me that the dumbest people imaginable are often rewarded for their idiocy. I'm sure some of you are saying "Gasp! He's so mean!" Maybe I am....but I ain't stupid.

Everyone makes mistakes. Even people who are smart. You could be tired, stressed, have a lot on your mind, etc. I don't think you would say that if you cut YOUR fingers off.
Although some of your examples make sense I guess.

A mistake is remembering only after giving your landlord your rent check that you forgot to deposit your pay. Stupidity is deliberately removing the safety mechanism -- it's called a SAFETY, asshole, it's there to keep you SAFE -- then deliberately sticking your fingers into a power tool.

Mistake = bad thing by accident
Stupidity = bad thing as a result of your deliberate foolish action

For the record I will never lose fingers to such an example as I gave because I am smart enough not to create that situation. People who lack that minimal level of common sense need a swift kick in the ass, not another cookie.

I stand by everything I said.

Trust me in engineering industry some of the stupidity you see/hear about day to day is unreal

 

[J-Alfred]

If you live in America, you need to learn how to speak english.