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Woodsey

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I believe that voting is not a right, but a privilege that you should have to show your worth to gain (by worth i mean political awareness and understanding).
That sounds suspiciously like "if your opinion matches my opinion, you can vote". And even if that's not the intention, that's how I could see it ending up as.

The people who don't know anything about politics are less likely to vote anyway. Those who still do vote without knowing anything I doubt make enough of a splash.
I mean basic understanding of politics, being able to justify their views. And let me extend on that while answering your second point about those who don't know, in the last election for the AV system my mum worked in a polling station, most people turned up asking 'what is av' and she was not allowed to tell them, yet they voted anyway.
But how would you justify it? If someone's voting for the BNP because they hate anyone whose got a different skin pigment or who wears a turban, that doesn't make their vote any more thought out, nor is it a particularly good justification from someone else's point of view.

And fair enough, but you could argue that's down to a wider issue with referendums themselves, as opposed to people. I don't truly believe that would be the case at a general election, but maybe so.
The same way you justify a driving license, you wouldn't let someone drive who hasn't passed as it would put people lives at risk, so why should you allow people to vote on who runs the country without showing they are not gunna vote stupidly. I realise this makes me sound like I want everyone to vote like me, I don't, I want people to vote with intelligence.
Well no, not the same way you justify a driving license. If you can drive, you can drive. Trying to gauge if someone should vote by how they justify what they're choosing is near-impossible. Who is anyone to say that voting for Labour because they aren't the Tories is any less a justifiable reason than voting for Labour because they like their manifesto?

Vault Girl said:
I don't mean to be preachy, but thats why i think its a controversial subject. the inability of the world to understand that it was and never will be right.
Arguing it was right is just as silly as trying to argue its completely wrong.
 

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I find fat people disgusting, lazy and not worth living.
People who just eat unhealthy, don't take care of themselves and above all are incredibly lazy. Not people with health conditions or that of the sort.
Most of the time obesity is a result of the parents not encouraging a healthy life style. They encourage a sedentary live style and once you learn that behaviour it's hard to unlearn it. Then there's also society itself which encourages a "busy" life style. Most people don't have time to cook or exercise. This is quite obvious with doctors, lawyers, office workers etc. Unless you work a job which requires you to physically exert yourself it's fairly impossible to remain fit. Saying that obese people shouldn't live is frankly a disgusting opinion.

OT: I believe a person should do what they want with their bodies as long as they do not harm the people around them. This is all fine and dandy until people realize I support the legalization of all drugs, prostitution etc.
 

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similar.squirrel said:
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If a child is born severely handicapped [both mentally and physically], it should be terminated at birth. If it becomes evident that the child will be born like that, it should be aborted. If the parents want to keep it, they should not be given state assistance to do so.
Raising a human being of that sort is cruel, heartbreaking and wasteful.

Oh, and I think that religion is the memetic equivalent of a carcinogenic retrovirus. I know and respect plenty of religious people, but only as people.
Religious belief is a fatal glitch in the human psyche. Then again, we're growing out of it quite fast, so that's good.

All, IMHO, of course.
I think Stephen Hawking would disagree...

anyway my point is where do you draw the line? like if a child is going to be wheelchair bound do you believe their life is not worth living?

how do you test mental capacity at child birth anyway?

or do you only mean like extreme cases like when the person just "isn't all there"

I don't think cerebral palsy or the like is grounds for death

or what about autism? could you pick up how severe it is at birth? what if they were high functioning?
Hawking's condition was diagnosed when he was 21. ALS wasn't identifiable at birth in the 40s, and it did not cause him to be a burden on anybody during his formative years. He is one of our most eminent scientists despite his terrible condition, and I'm almost certain that he pays for his own upkeep. It doesn't matter, because he's earned a lifetime of care with his contributions to human knowledge.

I meant severe physical and mental disability, that is evident from birth, or before. Latent genetic conditions that manifest themselves later on in life do not count, because that's a lottery we all play.
I just don't see the point in keeping somebody alive if they were born without the capacity to do anything useful or even comprehend this world fully. It's depressing, it's unnatural, it's pointless and it's a waste of resources that could be used to help people who are held back only by external circumstances.
So someone who is mentally handicapped...but I mean can still function, would they be OK?

I mean I know the slippery slope argument is flawed but the line is kinda blurry

oh...you're blind...sorry but you not worth it
It depends on to what extent. But generally speaking, yes. As long as they're capable of doing some beneficial work, it's all good. Things like gardening or arts & crafts are very therapeutic as well.

It is a slippery slope. I wouldn't really like seeing a law to this effect being enacted, because the line is very much subject to being shifted around by unsavoury eugenicist-type folk. I think this needs to be done by the citizenry, as a responsible personal choice. Enforcing it has a lot of potential for horribleness.
its like so many of thease controversial opinions...the theory is sound, but actually enforcing it is an eniirely diferent story

but yeah I can almost understand if say said person is pretty much a vegtable..but even then..I wouldnt really want to go there
 

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As for my (other?) controversial opinion: I don't think gay couples (either male or female) should be allowed to adopt children. Society isn't ready for it yet. It's for their own protection and (most importantly) the protection of the child.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
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I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.
...Like the Federation in Star Trek?
I'm familiar with this in spite of not being much of a Star Trek fan, so I must ask: Do they ever explain how that might be, in any way whatsoever, a feasible form of Governance and economy?

Common sense grounded in the context of OUR world tells us that there is zero possibility of that system working here. What's different in Star Trek?
 

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I support euphanasia and abortion.

I think people with horrible mental disabilities that stop them from learning at a normal rate should not be allowed to live (however, mental disabilities such as Tourettes, Aspergers Syndrome and ADD are fine).

I think far too many people put a high value on a human life, especially a child.
 

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Magical girls can all go die in a fire somewhere.


((Keep Reimu, though. I don't mind her as much.))
 

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Neon Genesis Evangelion is one of the worst anime I have ever seen that had decent production value. And trust me, I've seen a lot.

EDIT: Also, as an anime fan, in general I hate other anime fans.
 

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Dulcinea said:
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If a child is born severely handicapped [both mentally and physically], it should be terminated at birth.
So murdering the handicapped is not cruel, heartbreaking or wasteful?

I wonder how people would feel about murdering the hateful.
There is no hate whatsoever behind my opinion. Just sadness.
I'm not talking about murder; I'm talking about euthanasia. As an encouraged choice.
I simply cannot comprehend why anybody would keep a shell of human being alive for years, just because it carries their genes, or because of this weird sanctity for all human life. That time, effort and money would be better spent on raising another child or making the world a better place for everybody else. I don't see why the state should invest in something so futile, when there are less avoidable problems in dire need of a fix. I mean, okay..empathy. But that will only get you so far if you steadfastly avoid pragmatism.

I don't know. I remember being forced to watch a video about Chernobyl children back in secondary school. These kids were in constant pain and incapable of coherent thought and comprehension. There were babies with heads the size of watermelons, blankly staring. Deformed limbs. Chronic pain. There was no way of fixing that. Not even alleviating it, really. What's the point in nurturing them and prolonging their existence, when nothing will change? Why are they being kept alive?
 

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Zetion said:
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I think anyone who tortures animals or kills animals for no reason (pets or wild animals) should be executed
I completely agree with this
I don`t think that they should be excecuted, but atleast commited and evaluated for being a budding Psycopath. Instead of an opinion, I pose a question.

What should be done when someone is identified as a Psycopath if they haven`t commited a crime yet, especially in the case of a Psycopathic child?
They should be watched carefully as to not interfere with their life but enough to make sure their psychopathic nature never turns them into a serial killer.
 

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Warlord211 said:
Thrashgrinder said:
I think anyone who tortures animals or kills animals for no reason (pets or wild animals) should be executed
I completely agree with this
People can be judged by how they treat those who cannot defend themselves. I agree too.
 

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I think we should remove racism by having every race reproduce with another until there is only one race, I'd be interested in seeing what someone who decends from every race would look like :)

I also think human cloning and in-depth genetic modification research should be carried out to remove all human issues before birth, as I for one would not like to be born with major mental or physical disorders and be forced to live with them my entire, miserable life.
 

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This sounds like a good opportunity to be honest. (As said by the OP, I don't want to offend, I just want to tell the truth.) Here's my controversial opinion:
I severely dislike to generally hate most, if not, ALL humans I've come into contact with. That's just how I feel.
(No, I'm not some angry teenager pissed off at something trivial and taking it out on others).

I generally really don't like humans. I'm talking objectively here. Subjectively I think humans can be awesome, funny, brave and beautiful. And the human race can be good. We are the most intelligent species we know of in the universe. And that's fine. But we are at a stage in development where we still carry heavy evolutionary baggage. We still have animalistic tendencies in behaviour, and this I believe outweighs and positive things you may find (Like love, forgiveness, compassion, etc.) And I really hate that people don't realise this themselves. I hate people who can't control themselves and think rationally. I hate people who believe in things that are not real, like god and supernatural stuff. I hate people who make their own fun at the expense of others. I hate the human race for being so selfish. I especially hate blind faith and delusion. I hate humans for thinking war will achieve something.
We are still just cavemen with fancy technology. The thing that's unfortunate (Atleast from what I've seen) is that there are more dumbass/idiot/stupid/illogical people than there are intelligent/reasonable/smart people. I think that's very unfortunate, especially in the long run.

You know what? I give up. I have now given up on human decency. Maybe one day I will successfully delude myself with false hope. But, until then, I have officially lost hope for humanity. Even if I, (A most insignificant ant in the vast ocean of life) muster up the courage to achieve something good and special, in the end, it will all be for nothing...

..........sigh.........

Aaaanyway.........I think I'll go and read the Dr. Manhattan chapter from Watchmen before going into a deep, deep sleep.
 

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My controversial opinion is that the Islam should get the fuck out of the west. If you want to practice your violent religion so badly, please do it in your own countries. Don't infest the west with it.

In fact, my opinion is that any religion or ideology which supports forcing their believes unto others should get the fuck out.
 

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Dulcinea said:
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I'm not talking about murder; I'm talking about euthanasia. As an encouraged choice
Because it's way fine to encourage someone to put down their child like a sick puppy. 'Hey, lady, that child of yours looks a little slow. Maybe we should kill it. You know, for their sake. It may be smiling now, but really it's in agony. Do the right thing; kill little Jasmine.'

Oh yeah, that's pretty encouraging.

I've a better idea! Instead of talking about how to help people and save the world, why not, you know, do something about helping people? Maybe not sitting behind a computer preaching the ethics of murdering the disabled and coaching others into a reproductive cycle you find pleasing.

But hey, it's just a thought.
Christ Almighty... Not a 'little slow'.
If your newborn child shows the symptoms of having an utterly debilitating congenital condition, then you should be made aware of the fact that he/she will never be a human in anything other than the taxonomical sense. What you do after that is your choice, but you should not expect unconditional help. The human body is capable of producing multiple children. There's a slim chance that every one will grow up in pain, unless it's a genetic condition, in which case you should think twice about having kids.
Why exactly should everybody pay for the parent's choice to raise a genetic train-wreck?

Nice of you to assume that I preach ethics via a keyboard all day, though. Please list your humanitarian efforts, and I'll try to match them.