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godofallu

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Vegetarians are stupid, as are religious people.

I hate people who don't drink yet go to parties/bars/my house party. If you don't drink stay the hell away from me while i'm drinking, I don't need a black hole to suck all the fun away.

Abortion is fine, it's just a few cells at that point.

Both Republicans and Democrats are idiots. You can't just blindly follow one party at all times, you need to actually think during every election.

Anyone who considers themselves a "thug" or "gangster" should be shot, for the good of the population.

PS: If none of these things is controversial enough I apologize but that's the strongest stuff I could come up with off the top of my head.
 

Ironic Pirate

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the people who died in the planes in 9/11 had it coming except the ones that fought back.
I bet all the money I've ever had in my entire life you would have stayed right in your seat the entire team and quite possibly pissed yourself. It's easy to say you'd be a hero, almost impossible to be one.

So you're seriously, honestly, actually saying that a four year old kid, a pregnant woman, an eighty year old grandma, a handicapped person and countless others that for some reason aren't masters of hand-to-hand combat and in peak physical condition deserved to have died for not fighting back?

Well alright then.
 

Scrubiii

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I am pro assisted suicide.

I think that if people want to die, then that is their right, and they should be allowed to do it easily and painlessly.
 

suitepee7

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we should kill all the je....

ahem, as i was. no, not kill all jews, not kill any religious people (other than those who break laws worthy of death), but just ban religion having any impact on anything, other than religion.

by this i mean, if you believe in god, fanfuckingtastic, but that should not effect laws in the slightest. religions should be an outside of work thing. it should be entirely funded by its own members. lets see how religious people are when they have to keep their church going by themselves.
 

The Funslinger

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I hate Obama and all of his polocies, supprisingly controversial. I am bisexual, which in my community is controversial. I (obviously) support gay rights. I believe life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. If you want no baby, don't get pregnant. I support the right to bear arms, If a criminal wants a gun with which to shoot somebody, he will still get one even if they are illegal, because criminals don't obey the law, but then the law abiding citizens won't have a gun to defend themselves with. I am a southern american, and I hate almost everything about America. It USED to be the greatest country in the world, then dumbasses were elected, and that changed. Although I am an athiest, I don't think everybody else has to be, because of freedom, and all morals and values go back to religon in some way or another. Also, I hate the laws preventing a cop from shooting dangerous criminals. Only a few days ago, my best friends dad, who is a cop, and 2 others were killed by a criminal, who was shot and killed by a third cop, who was fired and charged with murder. So yah america's legal system can fuck right off.
I agree with most of that stuff except abortion. Let's just say that Humanity is going to have sex, it's the nature of every living thing, so let's not have the "don't have sex" argument. Abortion should be legal, because there are a number of variables that lead to accidental pregnancy. Some environments are just terrible for a child, and it is irresponsible to raise them in such an environment. THAT SAID, you shouldn't abort if there is even a vague chance you can provide well enough for the kid. However, the main reason abortion should be allowed is if the child has some illness, and the parents want to spare it suffering. However, I'm not here to start another euthanasia argument, but I just want to point out it's more complex than just getting pregnant and changing your mind. (That's what it sounded like, because you made the pregnancy part sound fairly deliberate.) I agree with the gun stuff, etc.
 

Ironic Pirate

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Vault Girl said:
no matter how much we pretend it was to end a war, America is responsible for one of the most vial and inhuman acts ever created by man. The attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki cannot ever be forgiven, no matter how much scientific progress, nor "peace that followed" can be enough.

The Holocaust AND the Nuclear attacks on Japan are one of the most base and animalistic attacks on our own species to ever happen. Why does everyone separate the nuclear attacks as a necessary evil?
Please tell me you aren't equating the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the Holocaust...

For starters, in simple logistics the Holocaust killed exponentially more people. Not only were they killed, they were tortured, starved, and beaten. They would hide for years, barely surviving, only to be caught and killed. It was a systematic annihilation over a period of years, and it was coldly calculated, planned, and executed.

The Atom bombing was done in the believe that it would end a war far less bloodily. The people responsible have been wracked with guilt ever since, and it was perpetuated by a small few who considered it carefully, losing sleep over it rather than thousands of individuals who enjoyed doing it. I'm not arguing whether it was worth it or not, but the estimates at the time believed millions of civilians and soldiers would be killed and Japan devastated during a ground war.

Look, Japan at the time was absolutely fanatical. Civilians were being trained to use weapons against invading soldiers, and in street to street fighting infinitely more destruction would have occurred. It's possibly they may never have surrendered, and an insurgency could have been waged for using, killing many and absolutely destroying US/Japan relations.
 

ShakyFt Slasher

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I guess it's pretty controversial here to say that God exists and I think the Christian religion is pretty nice if you follow it correctly.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.
You're suggesting the forceful act of degrading another human being to the level of object to be used for self-gratification against all their will and right, disregarding all the causal immediate pain and intense suffering to follow, can result in love because you read it in a comic?

I hope to god you never have to learn how wrong you are.
Not because of, thats just an example. Another would be Luke and Laura Spencer from General Hospital.
Because day time soap drama on television is more reliable a source of reality than comics?

Seriously, if you consider the greatest possible harm one can do to another to be capable of producing love in some instances... well, we're done here. For good.
Stockholm syndrome?

Its not natural or right at all, but he'd be right.
 

GartarkMusik

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I'm not sure if this is that controversial, but even if there is a higher power, (whose existence I will only accept after seeing IRREFUTABLE proof that he/she/it exists) I have little reason to care due to the fact that while people say that God or whoever gave them strength in a time of need, what about the ones who are there for you always? This could be family, or even close friends, but the fact remains that it is THEY who are there for you ALWAYS, not only in a time of need. Who laugh, love, cry, rage with you throughout your entire life. With all these, I feel that God is not really necessary to me.
 

ThisIsSnake

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That Creationism and Religious fundamentalism should be classed as mental disorders.
The Catholic Church should be outlawed for it's crimes.
All religions no matter how small or non-violent should be taxed the same as every other organisation. The only thing that isn't taxable is the money they donate to actual charities that operate transparently.
 

Vault Girl

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Ironic Pirate said:
Vault Girl said:
no matter how much we pretend it was to end a war, America is responsible for one of the most vial and inhuman acts ever created by man. The attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki cannot ever be forgiven, no matter how much scientific progress, nor "peace that followed" can be enough.

The Holocaust AND the Nuclear attacks on Japan are one of the most base and animalistic attacks on our own species to ever happen. Why does everyone separate the nuclear attacks as a necessary evil?
Please tell me you aren't equating the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the Holocaust...

For starters, in simple logistics the Holocaust killed exponentially more people. Not only were they killed, they were tortured, starved, and beaten. They would hide for years, barely surviving, only to be caught and killed. It was a systematic annihilation over a period of years, and it was coldly calculated, planned, and executed.

The Atom bombing was done in the believe that it would end a war far less bloodily. The people responsible have been wracked with guilt ever since, and it was perpetuated by a small few who considered it carefully, losing sleep over it rather than thousands of individuals who enjoyed doing it. I'm not arguing whether it was worth it or not, but the estimates at the time believed millions of civilians and soldiers would be killed and Japan devastated during a ground war.

Look, Japan at the time was absolutely fanatical. Civilians were being trained to use weapons against invading soldiers, and in street to street fighting infinitely more destruction would have occurred. It's possibly they may never have surrendered, and an insurgency could have been waged for using, killing many and absolutely destroying US/Japan relations.

Of course i'm not comparing the Holocaust to the Atomic Bombs, at least not in terms of "one is worse then the other". i'm looking at how they are both terrifying events. Like you said one of the reasons why the Holocaust is so horrific is the cold, calculating and planned nature of the systematic annihilation of a race, over a period of time. for the bombs, all it took was one push of a button to end millions of lives and maim future ones.

What i'm was trying to suss is why one simple act, the dropping of one bomb, in mere seconds was able to devastate millions of lives, maim and torture the lives of future generations because of cancer or mutation. Humanity should not be able to cause so much damage so easily.

I'm questioning why many people take the stance that the bombs were "a necessary evil". Many say its because thousands more would have died in the continuation of fighting. But look at the progress of the army, they were on the brink of breaching the mainland with the capture of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. The bombs killed millions of innocent civilians, which is something that nations of now demonised for, so why were the bombs any different?

I am not comparing the bombs to the holocaust, but rather am trying to understand how the instant vaporizing of millions of innocent cilivians can be deemed a "necessary evil" when it is inflicted by "the good guys".
 

Ironic Pirate

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Vault Girl said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Vault Girl said:
no matter how much we pretend it was to end a war, America is responsible for one of the most vial and inhuman acts ever created by man. The attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki cannot ever be forgiven, no matter how much scientific progress, nor "peace that followed" can be enough.

The Holocaust AND the Nuclear attacks on Japan are one of the most base and animalistic attacks on our own species to ever happen. Why does everyone separate the nuclear attacks as a necessary evil?
Please tell me you aren't equating the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the Holocaust...

For starters, in simple logistics the Holocaust killed exponentially more people. Not only were they killed, they were tortured, starved, and beaten. They would hide for years, barely surviving, only to be caught and killed. It was a systematic annihilation over a period of years, and it was coldly calculated, planned, and executed.

The Atom bombing was done in the believe that it would end a war far less bloodily. The people responsible have been wracked with guilt ever since, and it was perpetuated by a small few who considered it carefully, losing sleep over it rather than thousands of individuals who enjoyed doing it. I'm not arguing whether it was worth it or not, but the estimates at the time believed millions of civilians and soldiers would be killed and Japan devastated during a ground war.

Look, Japan at the time was absolutely fanatical. Civilians were being trained to use weapons against invading soldiers, and in street to street fighting infinitely more destruction would have occurred. It's possibly they may never have surrendered, and an insurgency could have been waged for using, killing many and absolutely destroying US/Japan relations.

Of course i'm not comparing the Holocaust to the Atomic Bombs, at least not in terms of "one is worse then the other". i'm looking at how they are both terrifying events. Like you said one of the reasons why the Holocaust is so horrific is the cold, calculating and planned nature of the systematic annihilation of a race, over a period of time. for the bombs, all it took was one push of a button to end millions of lives and maim future ones.

What i'm was trying to suss is why one simple act, the dropping of one bomb, in mere seconds was able to devastate millions of lives, maim and torture the lives of future generations because of cancer or mutation. Humanity should not be able to cause so much damage so easily.

I'm questioning why many people take the stance that the bombs were "a necessary evil". Many say its because thousands more would have died in the continuation of fighting. But look at the progress of the army, they were on the brink of breaching the mainland with the capture of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. The bombs killed millions of innocent civilians, which is something that nations of now demonised for, so why were the bombs any different?

I am not comparing the bombs to the holocaust, but rather am trying to understand how the instant vaporizing of millions of innocent cilivians can be deemed a "necessary evil" when it is inflicted by "the good guys".
In all honesty it's considered a necessary evil because it's almost certain a greater number of people would have died otherwise, but it's almost impossible to tell.
 

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Realistically, I could boil it down to a one word opinion, but that is generally frowned upon. Of course, I'm not talking about the old 1920's era version, but a newer, more defined version.

Eugenics - Removing genetic weaknesses from the population via sterilization or death. Typically only sterilization for individuals who are considered unfit for self survival due to birth defects.(Race, Gender, and Sexual Orientation are not justifications for a program)

I'm not in total agreement with what was done back then was good, but not every idea they had was a complete and total failure.

Of course, I have a few more opinions that are sometimes considered controversial.

Abortion - Not a law men should be allowed to vote on, unless it was specifically something that directly affected them(potential parental consent to abortion by both parents unless life of mother is in danger).

I'm sure I've got more opinions, but I'm sure there would be some flame war action going on.
 

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I'm an anarchist, atheist, don't believe in any type of borders, like to experiment with psychedelic substances every now and again, think every drug should be legal, 'working ladies' should be able to do their job without any troubles from "authorities" and should form their own union, suits should be replaced by something comfortable and funny hats ought to be mandatory once a week.

Controversy is just how I roll, bitches.
 

ramboondiea

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I think laws are absolute, if something is made into a legally binding rule then whether you agree with it or not, even if it is ridiculous or outrageous. and any one breaking them, even in a minor degree should be punished too the full extent possible.

if a person identifies themselves as a paedophile, hebiphile or what ever the hell the want to call themselves they should report this to the local police and register.

i will not accept that someone who has had a sex change is another gender, you may call yourself what ever you want, but as far as i am concerned you are you starting sex. this is not to say i think they shouldn't be allowed to, just don't expect me to pretend.

murder is worst then rape.... by alot.
 

Rockchimp69

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I have several. Then again, I'm a Liberal, Pagan, Bisexual female living in the bible belt.

1) The US is NOT a christian nation. It's right there (several times) in the Constitution. People refusing to believe this does not make it false. No religion, or it's beliefs, should be taught in schools. No religion or it's beliefs should be allowed to dictate law. No religion should have carte blanche to to shit talk and demonize any other religion (or atheists.)

2) Illegal aliens should be rounded up and shipped back to where they came from, and border security needs to beefed to the max. I lived in Sanctuary City (AKA Houston, Texas) most of my life...I've seen what these people do. The "they just come here for a better life" story people use to pull heart strings is a total crock. Also, while we're at it, get rid of citizenship upon birth. At least one parent MUST be a citizen.

3) Free speech needs relooked. I understand the importance of the law, don't get me wrong. But when you have Faux Noise brainwashing a good chunk of the country like it does and hiding from any and all punishment behind the First Amendment, or Westboro Baptist being completely immune from punishment for the harm they cause people...No. There needs to be a way for other citizens to hold these people, and any others who would abuse the power, accountable.

4) Stop thinking your beliefs trump my rights. I should be able to marry any consenting adult I want. And the only other people who should have any weight in a decision over my body are the guy involved and my doctor.

5) Tax churches. They long ago stopped adhering to the "No political preaching" rule. And on that note, NO TAX DOLLARS for "faith based initiatives." If you can piss and moan about your tax dollars going to my healthcare, I should be able to deny you mine for your religious shit.

Think that's plenty enough to have me several quotes of flaming when I log in next.
What exactly is the problem with immigration?
 

Rockchimp69

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Greni said:
I'm an anarchist, atheist, don't believe in any type of borders, like to experiment with psychedelic substances every now and again, think every drug should be legal, 'working ladies' should be able to do their job without any troubles from "authorities" and should form their own union, suits should be replaced by something comfortable and funny hats ought to be mandatory once a week.

Controversy is just how I roll, bitches.
Tbh I can live with people who are very free, you're a hundred times better than conservative, freedom restricting dicks who are blind to obvious truths. The type of people who restrict human progress with their pointlessly strict dogma.

I mean seriously, how can anyone think that homosexuality is wrong when there is proof that it exists naturally?
How can anyone think that contraception is wrong, when only one sperm cell survives a successful fertilisation anyway? Not much extra loss of "life" there!
And what is wrong with prostitution? Or sex before marriage?
How can you base views on something like that on 2000 year old writings which have no proof or evidence and hold up on circular logic?

I'm sure an all powerful benevolent being really cares how we satisfy our primal urges..