What's your controversial opinion?

[Cheesus333]

If every human being died, it would only be a good thing. I include myself in that.

Please contest this opinion, as I would love to change it.

Can I try?

If every human being died, there would be noone left to classify that as good.

Excellent point - touché. I shall attempt to rephrase to account for the problem of observation.

If there were no human beings, the world would not be in such a sorry state.

Depending on the state of space travel in humanity's future - provided we don't obliterate ourselves too soon - you can replace the word 'world' with 'galaxy' or 'universe'. Humanity is capable of some wonderful things. But for every one shining act, there's a hundred people ready to kill and steal just to get themselves ahead.

 

[nbamaniac]

I'm a Christian and yet I actually have no problems with secularism. Does that mean I'm Satan? :O

PS> And yeah, I'm serious

 

[Originality]

Controversial opinion eh... I've a few, but here's a good one: I think every country should have the freedom to issue the death penalty to hard/repeating criminals (e.g. serial killers). If prison can't fix them, then they should just be executed (humanely and painlessly).

I also think chavs should be systematically steralized, but that would wind up with a global population reduction of over 90%. Even chavs are (unfortunately) necessary in the world...

 

[Nimcha]

If every human being died, it would only be a good thing. I include myself in that.

Please contest this opinion, as I would love to change it.

Can I try?

If every human being died, there would be noone left to classify that as good.

Excellent point - touché. I shall attempt to rephrase to account for the problem of observation.

If there were no human beings, the world would not be in such a sorry state.

Depending on the state of space travel in humanity's future - provided we don't obliterate ourselves too soon - you can replace the word 'world' with 'galaxy' or 'universe'. Humanity is capable of some wonderful things. But for every one shining act, there's a hundred people ready to kill and steal just to get themselves ahead.

That's... exactly the same. No humans, noone around to say that it's not in such a sorry state.

The problem with your viewpoint is simple, you're projecting human viewpoints and concepts on a scale they're not designed for. Add to that my disagreement that the world is in a 'sorry state' and it all falls apart.

This human-hating shit is getting real old now.

 

[Stilkon]

As I have Asperger's Syndrome, I feel like I have some importance in this matter:

Autism is not something to be "cured", or a "disease". I hate how Autism Speaks tries to scare moms into trying to support them, or making mothers of children with Autism/AS feel like they're so special. They're not. Autism Speaks is a slap in the face to me and others on the Autistic Spectrum because VERY FEW IF ANY people with Autism has spoken up themselves and supported them. I've viewed my AS as a gift and it has allowed me to look at things like sociality from a different angle than most. To say that I'm imperfect or diseased like they're doing is downright insulting. I mean, look at their little ribbon logo: It's made of puzzle pieces, like Autistic people don't fit in or are "puzzling".

Also, I'll jump on the anti-Religion bandwagon.

 

[nbamaniac]

Number two; Religion should be abolished. The majority of people are just ordinary people who believe there is something more to this life than plain old human humdrum existance, but there is a minority who hold back human and societal growth by espousing religious views, which are held in higher regard-in some places- than ethical, scientific and humanitarian reasons, and even above logic.

Religion can adapt imo. It's just those hard to understand traditionalists.

 

[Ara69]

I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.

 

[Ara69]

I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.

 

[Ara69]

I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.

 

[Cheesus333]

That's... exactly the same. No humans, noone around to say that it's not in such a sorry state.

The problem with your viewpoint is simple, you're projecting human viewpoints and concepts on a scale they're not designed for. Add to that my disagreement that the world is in a 'sorry state' and it all falls apart.

This human-hating shit is getting real old now.

Alright, I can see where you're coming from. But to be fair, if you ask a guy what he thinks, he'll tell you what a guy thinks - not what the universe thinks.

Yeah, I'm talking about a situation in which there are no people to judge whether humanity is good or bad, because good and bad are human terms, but I'm talking about it from a situation in which there are humans, and the behaviour of these humans are upon whom I am basing my observations. Additionally, I think we're just arguing semantics now.

Finally: I do agree that misanthropy is tiresome and, as you put it, getting old, but philanthropy tends to be around only when there's stuff to base it on. So is misanthropy, but there's a lot more for that. I think you'd be more likely to see 'man killed in crossfire of gang warfare' than 'man selflessly pushes child out of the way of a car and dies a hero'.

EDIT: Sorry, something I forgot to mention. The state of the world largely depends on how you look at it: on the one hand, science does wonderful things everyday to further us into advancement and civilisation. On the other hand, it's doing nothing to change our primal, base instincts - just because you invent the gun, doesn't mean people will use it responsibly. We're advancing faster than we can handle because, as a species, we're not exactly responsible enough to handle the things we control.

 

[OptimisticPessimist]

Democracy doesn't work.

Also, I don't care if it's part of your fucking culture, dangerous and harmful customs have no inherent right to exist.

Oh, and women should stay in the kitchen. (kidding! Kidding! Don't lynch me.)

 

[Nimcha]

That's... exactly the same. No humans, noone around to say that it's not in such a sorry state.

The problem with your viewpoint is simple, you're projecting human viewpoints and concepts on a scale they're not designed for. Add to that my disagreement that the world is in a 'sorry state' and it all falls apart.

This human-hating shit is getting real old now.

Alright, I can see where you're coming from. But to be fair, if you ask a guy what he thinks, he'll tell you what a guy thinks - not what the universe thinks.

Yeah, I'm talking about a situation in which there are no people to judge whether humanity is good or bad, because good and bad are human terms, but I'm talking about it from a situation in which there are humans, and the behaviour of these humans are upon whom I am basing my observations. Additionally, I think we're just arguing semantics now.

Finally: I do agree that misanthropy is tiresome and, as you put it, getting old, but philanthropy tends to be around only when there's stuff to base it on. So is misanthropy, but there's a lot more for that. I think you'd be more likely to see 'man killed in crossfire of gang warfare' than 'man selflessly pushes child out of the way of a car and dies a hero'.

EDIT: Sorry, something I forgot to mention. The state of the world largelt depends on how you look at it: on the one hand, science does wonderful things everyday to further us into advancement and civilisation. On the other hand, it's doing nothing to change our primal, base instincts - just because you invent the gun, doesn't mean people will use it responsibly. We're advancing faster than we can handle because, as a species, we're not exactly responsible enough to handle the things we control.

Important semantics. Yes this is a paradox.

You're again projecting your viewpoint on the whole of humanity and reality. You might think it's a bad thing science is not changing our primal, base instincts. But I disagree. And responsible is again a human term. It implies we as a species owe a responsibility to someone or other, which we don't.

I hope you get it now, because I can't explain it any way else without going into way too much detail.

 

[ramboondiea]

i believe we should re-establish gender roles, i honestly feel the lines between them are too blurred, i dont think it needs to go as far as women being forced to stay in the kitchen, but there is far too much "liberation" out their for my taste

 

[Ham_authority95]

I believe that money and big corporations will solve the energy crisis.

Also, Abortion reduces crime rates.

 

[Spencer Petersen]

There is no need to have laws making any form of drug or chemical illegal for personal use. All these laws do is fund drug dealers and cartels who peddle the stuff past law enforcement to people who are encouraged somewhat by the rebellious nature of doing something illegal, as well as make those addicted turn in on themselves and alienate those who can help them for fear of being arrested or caught with illegal substances. I doubt the only thing keeping people from taking drugs is that its illegal. Many drug users are only violent because the sky-high prices of being forced to go to criminals to buy their fix. Just like the increase of crimes related to alcohol during Prohibition, as criminal groups like the Mafia stepped up and took over the trade, making drunks go to them for their fix, paying many times the original price because of the monopoly and putting themselves and others in danger when trying to get enough money to pay for the booze. I'm not saying we shouldn't help those addicted, we should. But helping them by putting them in prison is just forcing them deeper underground and put of the reach of those who can help.

 

[Cheesus333]

Important semantics. Yes this is a paradox.

You're again projecting your viewpoint on the whole of humanity and reality. You might think it's a bad thing science is not changing our primal, base instincts. But I disagree. And responsible is again a human term. It implies we as a species owe a responsibility to someone or other, which we don't.

I hope you get it now, because I can't explain it any way else without going into way too much detail.

If I'm projecting my viewpoint, that would be because it's the only one I know. I am and have only ever been myself, I'm afraid I don't really know how other people see things, let alone things beyond other people. So if I sound like I'm speaking in terms of myself without considering the bigger picture, it's because the self-portrait is all I have a firm grasp of, and for that I apologise if I seem narrow-minded.

I think that we have a responsibility to ourselves, no more and no less. Some would say that, as arguably superior beings[footnote]Presumably due to our sentience and the ability to use tools and such things[/footnote] we are responsible for animals, but I don't really agree with that. However, if we want to get anywhere at all we have to be responsible for ourselves - at the very least on a personal level, if not a widely social one.

Anyway, as amiably civilised as this back-and-forth has been, I'm afraid my body clock calls me to sleep. Goodnight, sir, it's been a pleasure

 

[FalloutJack]

I think that the human population needs to be cut down by the amount of people who are dumbasses too often.

 

[Thrashgrinder]

I think anyone who tortures animals or kills animals for no reason (pets or wild animals) should be executed

 

[Morten Dall]

Alright, where to begin?

First of all, the wave of islamophobia spreading through the western world disgusts me. To judge so many people based on the behaviour of an extreme minority is just wrong on so many levels.

Second, people who don't believe in evolution are unenlightened. They just CHOOSE to believe otherwise, they don't base it on rational opinions. It is NOT a theory people! It is a scientific fact. To say that you don't believe in it is like denying gravity or the fact that the world is round. To claim otherwise is just plain stubborness (in my opinion - I know a lot of you will say otherwise but on this thread you have the right to be controversial right ?)

Likewise, I find it difficult to believe that people in our time will make arguments based on organised religion. I'm not an atheist, I just don't believe you can provide an answer handily from an ancient text. Opinions MUST be formed on rational thought, not by using a book as a safety blanket (which is why chinese philosophy has always appealed more to me than the monotheistic religions).

And finally, I'm a member of a political party which used to be our nations communist party. We have changed since then (I'm merely a socialist, not a communist) but a lot of people still see it as sort of blasphemeous.

Wall of text over, I hope none of you feel too insulted, for that is not the intention. I'm merely a person who likes to discuss opinions .