Ah, my bad, I thought you were talking specifically to the events of MP2, not 3. Eh, I still don't like it personally, because it felt like it basically just invalidated any resolution and closure he got from MP2's ending. He apparently didn't find some sense of peace and balance, and just became the same drunken, depressed dude he was before, blaming himself for everything. I just, eh *shrugs*. To me, it just felt like someone on the dev team said "Holy shit I love the movie Man on Fire!! Like, so much so I want to have it's babies! Let's make a Man on Fire game!" "um..ok, we just gonna make that whole cloth from scratch?" "Nah! We'll just use Max Payne! He's got the right background for it! Drunken mopey dude! Brilliant!!" "....ok, sure, why not. Nobody's done anything with that IP for a while, we can probably get it cheap, save us some time/money on developing the backstory." And poof, MP3 was born. Which, while I LOVE Man on Fire, it wasn't a good fit for Max in my opinion. They should've just left it alone. It had a nice closure to it in my opinion.Ezekiel said:
Whats your least fav game of last generation?
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Oh, God! I forgot about that game. I really didn't mind that much about the lousy story, or Samus' mischaracterization. But not activating the Varia Suit in the lava section for no reason (until Adam told Samus to do it) was incomprehensible, and it was never explained. Not using heavy weapons until she was authorized (so no survivors get harmed by accident) is kinda understandable. But not activating protective gear isn't. And it isn't even like Adam told her not to use it. She just didn't do it, nor even asked if she could.ThatOtherGirl said:
However that doesn't even compare to the ending. Oh, that freaking ending... It's the second most disappointing ending in videogames I have ever played.
I really hope Nintendo strikes it from canon. Or even better recontextualizes it. Have you heard the fan theory that the Samus of Metroid: Other M is a botched clone?CaitSeith said:
Emotionally broken man with a violent past and a drinking problem.Ezekiel said:
Finding himself in a South American city ripe with crime, working as a token bodyguard for a rich family that lives there
Drinks himself stupid, while the words he says appear on the screen as he says them in a 4th wall breaking kind of way, complete with the blurry double vision effect as well.
The person he's paid to protect is captured, and he has to go on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge to rescue her.
It's pretty point for point the same story, even including the cinematic tools they used from Man on Fire. I dunno, it felt more like the movie than it didn't to me.
Oh... is THAT what the original point of the thread was? I thought it was to get on a platform and try to decry games that were good and popular from last gen in hopes that everyone would agree that the Troy Baker power hour games were over-rated or something.B-Cell said:
That being said, I'm surprised no one mentioned Ride to Hell: Retribution yet. It's borderline unplayable and I'd argue it's roughly on par with Sonic 06 in terms of "WTH WHO LET HIS COME TO PASS".
Also I'm gonna sound like a terrible person but I really wish I liked Walking Dead: Survival Instinct more. It had potential but it just seemed like a cash grab in the success of the TTG Walking Dead game; the graphics are sloppy and the only actor who actually puts backbone into his performance is Michael Rooker and even then, if you wanna play a game with Michael Rooker in it, play Black Ops 2
Also again, this is personal opinion but I really really really really didn't like Dragon Age II, especially because I really really really like Origins and Inquisition. I liked two of the companions and some of the gameplay choices were better but overall, I just couldn't bring myself to care or get involved or anything that I usually do with games.
Can this be extended to games that were made both for last gen and current? Because I'm pretty sure Shadow of Mordor looks and plays hella better on current-gen consoles. (Hey look more Troy Baker anyone surprised I'm not)
Least favourite is a bit of a weird concept. You tend to avoid most bad games entirely. So your least favourite game is something that was good enough to make you want to play it in the first place.
"Most disappointing" makes more sense as a category. To which I'd say Dark Souls 2. Mostly because I absolutely loved Dark Souls 1. And I love Bloodborne (and I suspect I'll love DS3). Dark Souls 2 just butchered the most important aspect of these games: the world design. Without the interesting worlds, you start to see the cracks, and it feels more and more like the loosely connected set of incentive structures it actually is.
"Most disappointing" makes more sense as a category. To which I'd say Dark Souls 2. Mostly because I absolutely loved Dark Souls 1. And I love Bloodborne (and I suspect I'll love DS3). Dark Souls 2 just butchered the most important aspect of these games: the world design. Without the interesting worlds, you start to see the cracks, and it feels more and more like the loosely connected set of incentive structures it actually is.
I don't know if I have a least favourite set of games, but some were certainly frustrating and/or disappointing.
Halo Reach and Halo 4 both suffered from terribly implemented DLC. In the case of Reach, the maps were great but the playlists and rotation meant you hardly ever got to play on your shiny new maps with a full lobby of people more than a couple of times an evening - or if you did, it would be some ridiculous OTT variant like Infinite Fuel Rod, Infinite Jetpack Firefight. Halo 4's multiplayer was actually excellent (compared to the very unpolished campaign) but the DLC levels were the definition of lip-service. Spartan Ops was an embarassing exercise in visiting the same copy-pasted levels dozens of times and taking the story in silly directions.
Gears of War 3 and Judgment were both good games in their own right, but exemplars of why you never buy the Season Pass.
Rage was an enraging disappointment because of just how low it sets its sights. I felt mildly insulted as a player. They build a beautiful world, employ a sexy new game engine, and then... NPCs stand around with exclamation marks above their heads and dole out fetch quests. Fuck that noise. You promised me paradigm-destroying, open-world, hybrid gameplay; and what you delivered was a reskinned mash-up of the most safe and generic gameplay of last gen. Questing, crafting, upgrading weapons, tediously ticking boxes and making numbers on an offscreen Excel spreadsheet get bigger. No thank you.
Destiny also failed to be anything near to the groundbreaking Best Thing Ever that Bungie hyped it up to be. I remember when this game was called Phantasy Star Online. Wake me up when something actually innovative comes along.
Dead Island Riptide was a game I played through in a few hours flat, my face set in a permanent expression of bemused disbelief. How does something so sparse, so lacking in actual content, so utterly self-plagiaristic, get greenlighted? A lot of man-hours must have gone into this game, and every last one was wasted. The developers' keyboards must all have the Ctrl, C, and V keys worn down to nubs, such is the degree of copypasting evident here. NPCs. Environmental features. Enemies. It's one big Deja Vu trip where precisely nothing stands out. What an utter waste of a basically sound premise and central game mechanic. The paid-for DLC that gives your characters a slightly palette-swapped outfit, which you yourself will NEVER SEE in gameplay, is the icing on the cake.
Brink. I just never gelled with this one. The character design is singularly weird and uninspiring, and sets an offbeat tone that the rest of the straight-laced game fails to capture.
Timeshift - Nice idea, shame about the game.
Tomb Raider Reboot - sorry Lara, but dragging your bony, complaining butt over every jagged rock, down every waterfall and off every cliff in sight is just tedious. Making your protagonist the damsel just doesn't work.
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood - not a baaaad game, but this definitely marks the point where Ubisoft decided "right, we're milking this cow until dust comes out of the udders".
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - this is NOT a sequel and doesn't deserve the number 4 next to its name. "Glossy but slightly Uncanny-Valley HD remix of the best levels from Sonic 1 and 2" would have been a much more accurate name.
Halo Reach and Halo 4 both suffered from terribly implemented DLC. In the case of Reach, the maps were great but the playlists and rotation meant you hardly ever got to play on your shiny new maps with a full lobby of people more than a couple of times an evening - or if you did, it would be some ridiculous OTT variant like Infinite Fuel Rod, Infinite Jetpack Firefight. Halo 4's multiplayer was actually excellent (compared to the very unpolished campaign) but the DLC levels were the definition of lip-service. Spartan Ops was an embarassing exercise in visiting the same copy-pasted levels dozens of times and taking the story in silly directions.
Gears of War 3 and Judgment were both good games in their own right, but exemplars of why you never buy the Season Pass.
Rage was an enraging disappointment because of just how low it sets its sights. I felt mildly insulted as a player. They build a beautiful world, employ a sexy new game engine, and then... NPCs stand around with exclamation marks above their heads and dole out fetch quests. Fuck that noise. You promised me paradigm-destroying, open-world, hybrid gameplay; and what you delivered was a reskinned mash-up of the most safe and generic gameplay of last gen. Questing, crafting, upgrading weapons, tediously ticking boxes and making numbers on an offscreen Excel spreadsheet get bigger. No thank you.
Destiny also failed to be anything near to the groundbreaking Best Thing Ever that Bungie hyped it up to be. I remember when this game was called Phantasy Star Online. Wake me up when something actually innovative comes along.
Dead Island Riptide was a game I played through in a few hours flat, my face set in a permanent expression of bemused disbelief. How does something so sparse, so lacking in actual content, so utterly self-plagiaristic, get greenlighted? A lot of man-hours must have gone into this game, and every last one was wasted. The developers' keyboards must all have the Ctrl, C, and V keys worn down to nubs, such is the degree of copypasting evident here. NPCs. Environmental features. Enemies. It's one big Deja Vu trip where precisely nothing stands out. What an utter waste of a basically sound premise and central game mechanic. The paid-for DLC that gives your characters a slightly palette-swapped outfit, which you yourself will NEVER SEE in gameplay, is the icing on the cake.
Brink. I just never gelled with this one. The character design is singularly weird and uninspiring, and sets an offbeat tone that the rest of the straight-laced game fails to capture.
Timeshift - Nice idea, shame about the game.
Tomb Raider Reboot - sorry Lara, but dragging your bony, complaining butt over every jagged rock, down every waterfall and off every cliff in sight is just tedious. Making your protagonist the damsel just doesn't work.
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood - not a baaaad game, but this definitely marks the point where Ubisoft decided "right, we're milking this cow until dust comes out of the udders".
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - this is NOT a sequel and doesn't deserve the number 4 next to its name. "Glossy but slightly Uncanny-Valley HD remix of the best levels from Sonic 1 and 2" would have been a much more accurate name.
I'm afraid I can't comment about Uplay on the PC. The only Uplay enabled game I've, well, played are on my 360. Where it gave reasonable unlocks for gaining achievements.flying_whimsy said:
Valve have no respect for us as consumers either. If they did then they'd stop the flood on tat onto the service and prevent publishers from upping the price of their games before a sale. At least EA are honest about the high prices on Origin.
Now don't get me wrong. I understand the power of buying into a service. I'd find it hard to ever have anything other than an Android phone because of my purchases into Google's ecosystem.
You are willing to let Valve's exploitation continue but will boycott EA for doing the same thing. You could stop buying from both companies but I'm willing to put money on you still buying from Steam, because it's Steam.
I actually prefer gog and humblebundle these days. However, since I don't own any next gen consoles I'm left with choosing between uplay, origin, or steam for most new titles. Since I don't pirate, I have to pick one of them.votemarvel said:
I still prefer valve over ea: neither company treats us well, but ea actively buys up then eliminates competing game studios and is actively shrinking the industry while valve will let anyone distribute just about anything and is working on growing the industry (in the messiest way possible). This is actively turning into a valve vs ea discussion, so I'd recommend taking it to PMs so as not to derail the thread.
OT: aside from the ones I've mentioned before, I think I'd also like to add the utter failure on Square's part to put out Kingdom Hearts III. I thought it was bad enough that I'd have to switch consoles to play the entire trilogy (God of War did that as well), but then to entirely skip a generation and suffer through lackluster handheld entries while waiting really broke my heart (and the handheld entries that I played actually harmed my enjoyment of the overall story rather than kept my interest). I know we are finally going to get KHIII, but it's definitely too little, too late for me to care anymore. That said, if they did a pc release along with the final cut versions of the first two games, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't hesitate to get it.
And then maybe I'll go for a walk on the moon and become the king of mars.
I think I genuinely liked every game I bought, but I did play MW3 quite a bit with my roommate when it came out. It's the game that completely turned me off of CoD (I actually liked MW2 despite the abundance of noob tubes because I liked almost all of the maps). The maps were so uninspired that I can't even remember a single one at this point. The spawn system is perhaps the worst I've ever experienced in a game. It was not uncommon to get killed multiple times from behind in a match simply because an enemy spawned right behind you. I spawned several times with my crosshair pointed directly into an enemy's back.