What's your level of education?
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Do specialized programs count? I graduated high school with honors and went to a 'proper' university, but it didn't feel right to me. I dropped out after a year or so, but I graduated form a year long intensive program at one of NYCs best acting schools.
So...not technically college, but beyond high school I guess?
So...not technically college, but beyond high school I guess?
It's sooo predictable to go with the Invitybr. Some people have no imagination *shake head*.Klarinette said:
Graduated from one university with an AS in English and then transfered and graduated from another in December with a BS in English: Rhetoric and Writing.
If only I could get some semblance of work to help start paying for some of the loans, start saving some and move onto get an MFA. Family problems didn't allow me to pursue what I had planned to do. Who knows if I will ever go back. Seeing many older people going back for such things when I was in school gives me a small amount of confidence that I might.
If only I could get some semblance of work to help start paying for some of the loans, start saving some and move onto get an MFA. Family problems didn't allow me to pursue what I had planned to do. Who knows if I will ever go back. Seeing many older people going back for such things when I was in school gives me a small amount of confidence that I might.
You got that "Degree" at a college or university right? So yes it is.Klarinette said:
I start university this september, at a university with one of the best reputations in Canada;
University of Waterloo.
I graduated highschool with honours and that stuff and I'm constantly looking for new things to learn through books, talks, lectures, debates, etc.
I'll be getting a Bachelor of sciences in physical sciences with a major in phyiscs,and then maybe I'll be moving on to my PhD. (Though I can't say for sure yet)
Also, unrelated, but do any of the countries you live in make the very CLEAR distinction between college and university?
In my part of Canada, they're placed on opposite ends of the universe.
University of Waterloo.
I graduated highschool with honours and that stuff and I'm constantly looking for new things to learn through books, talks, lectures, debates, etc.
I'll be getting a Bachelor of sciences in physical sciences with a major in phyiscs,and then maybe I'll be moving on to my PhD. (Though I can't say for sure yet)
Also, unrelated, but do any of the countries you live in make the very CLEAR distinction between college and university?
In my part of Canada, they're placed on opposite ends of the universe.
I'm approaching my fourth (and final!) year of my Biotechnology degree and I've slacked in studying. I'm considering grad school, and I have the grades for it, but I know I won't be able to slack through that. I'm taking two grad level courses next semester, so that should be a wake-up.Flutterguy said:
I think that counts as a trade school, like a cooking school, clown school, and those incessant HVAC places.ChildofGallifrey said:
Master's degree. Molecular Biology. I'm going for a PhD, because, let's face it, a Master's Degree isn't worth jack all these days. If you want even a reasonably well paying, stable job in research, you're going to need a PhD.
I honestly can't say that my education has actually made me any more intelligent - it has certainly made me more knowledgeable, and for that I'm grateful, but I can't say that I feel any "smarter" than anyone else. There's a system to beating academic work - you just need to use your memory, read questions carefully and build your volcabulary.
I can truthfully say that if I can get a science degree, YOU can get a science degree, provided you want one. A lot of people are scared off from a career in science because they believe "Only the eggheads can do well" - well, I have news for you: Many of the scientists I've worked with, while smart, aren't super-humanly intelligent. With a lot of hardwork and passion, I figure most people could become scientists. You CAN be taught to think in a scientific manner, and good universities will provided courses designed to do exactly that.
Higher Education is not useless - knowledge, for the sake of knowledge, is noble goal - but it's also not a sign of superiority. Yes, getting a science degree is not easy, but too many people I've worked with somehow believe that just because they have a science degree it marks them out as being "special" from the rest of the population.
Having a higher degree is also not a sign of infallibility. I've been wrong many times. We all have been wrong, it's part of the human experience. Also, having a degree in science might give me some weight when I discuss matters related to science (such as evolution, genetics, proteins and cellular biology) but it doesn't actually make my arguments in other fields automatically correct. This is a big mistake many academics make: They believe that just because they have a degree in a complicated field, such as, say engineering, it gives them the right to wade into other complex fields which they know little about. It really irrtates me when engineers (it's mostly engineers) start to question biological theory. It also irritates me when some biologists start wading into other fields like pharmacokinetics, while they know nothing of pharmacokinetics. Biologists also, like all humans, tend to view things through the lense of their own experience. This can be supremely frustrating - especially when some big shot geneticist starts trash talking developmental or bone biology folks for being "slow" with their research, not taking the time to realize that research in other fields is not the same as research their field.
Protip: If you don't have a degree in that field, YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE ARGUMENTS IN THAT FIELD. So many goddamn scientists and engineers do this. If you're gonna start talking crap about evolution, READ A TEXTBOOK ON EVOLUTION FIRST! Just because you are good at math or chemistry does not mean you know everything. Engineering or chemistry or maths is not "harder" than biology, and just because you have a degree in it does not make your arguments automatically correct.
A lot of engineers and chemists do this with regard to climate science - few climate skeptics have degrees in meteorology or climate science - rather, their degrees are usually in other, unrelated fields. I really wish scientists would learn to stick to their fields. If you're gonna comment on someone else's field, take the time to educate yourself first in that field. All branches of science are extremely, EXTREMELY complex and take years of work to fully master. Have respect for fellow academics in other fields, by realizing that their subjects are just as complex as yours.
I honestly can't say that my education has actually made me any more intelligent - it has certainly made me more knowledgeable, and for that I'm grateful, but I can't say that I feel any "smarter" than anyone else. There's a system to beating academic work - you just need to use your memory, read questions carefully and build your volcabulary.
I can truthfully say that if I can get a science degree, YOU can get a science degree, provided you want one. A lot of people are scared off from a career in science because they believe "Only the eggheads can do well" - well, I have news for you: Many of the scientists I've worked with, while smart, aren't super-humanly intelligent. With a lot of hardwork and passion, I figure most people could become scientists. You CAN be taught to think in a scientific manner, and good universities will provided courses designed to do exactly that.
Higher Education is not useless - knowledge, for the sake of knowledge, is noble goal - but it's also not a sign of superiority. Yes, getting a science degree is not easy, but too many people I've worked with somehow believe that just because they have a science degree it marks them out as being "special" from the rest of the population.
Having a higher degree is also not a sign of infallibility. I've been wrong many times. We all have been wrong, it's part of the human experience. Also, having a degree in science might give me some weight when I discuss matters related to science (such as evolution, genetics, proteins and cellular biology) but it doesn't actually make my arguments in other fields automatically correct. This is a big mistake many academics make: They believe that just because they have a degree in a complicated field, such as, say engineering, it gives them the right to wade into other complex fields which they know little about. It really irrtates me when engineers (it's mostly engineers) start to question biological theory. It also irritates me when some biologists start wading into other fields like pharmacokinetics, while they know nothing of pharmacokinetics. Biologists also, like all humans, tend to view things through the lense of their own experience. This can be supremely frustrating - especially when some big shot geneticist starts trash talking developmental or bone biology folks for being "slow" with their research, not taking the time to realize that research in other fields is not the same as research their field.
Protip: If you don't have a degree in that field, YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE ARGUMENTS IN THAT FIELD. So many goddamn scientists and engineers do this. If you're gonna start talking crap about evolution, READ A TEXTBOOK ON EVOLUTION FIRST! Just because you are good at math or chemistry does not mean you know everything. Engineering or chemistry or maths is not "harder" than biology, and just because you have a degree in it does not make your arguments automatically correct.
A lot of engineers and chemists do this with regard to climate science - few climate skeptics have degrees in meteorology or climate science - rather, their degrees are usually in other, unrelated fields. I really wish scientists would learn to stick to their fields. If you're gonna comment on someone else's field, take the time to educate yourself first in that field. All branches of science are extremely, EXTREMELY complex and take years of work to fully master. Have respect for fellow academics in other fields, by realizing that their subjects are just as complex as yours.
I'll be a sophomore in college when next semester stars. I haven't decided exactly what I'm doing yet but wha-hay, I'll figure it out.
And there's true wisedom in the guy above me^^^
And there's true wisedom in the guy above me^^^
Went through the US public school system. I failed the seventh grade once. Now, I'm working towards a degree in Marine Engineering. I'm hoping to get into Naval Architecture. I'm a simple man. I like water, I like boats, and I like gainful employment. I decided the best course of action would be a job which combined the three. If I can live a life by the ocean, and spend my days working on or designing ships, I will die a happy man. I'd be especially happy if I could find work in Marseille or Hamburg.
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I graduated from college last year. And I know a lot of people here will say that college didn't do much for them, but for me? It expanded my worldview, my personality.. It improved pretty much every aspect of who I am.
I went to a small but great women's college, and while I am aware of a certain few professors that are iffy, I never had a bad professor there, and most could get me truely engaged and excited about their subject.
I just wish everyone could have had an experience like mine, where you feel like you're enriching yourself instead of meandering through busy work and the same few sets of regurgitated facts and professors' opinions.
I went to a small but great women's college, and while I am aware of a certain few professors that are iffy, I never had a bad professor there, and most could get me truely engaged and excited about their subject.
I just wish everyone could have had an experience like mine, where you feel like you're enriching yourself instead of meandering through busy work and the same few sets of regurgitated facts and professors' opinions.
yeah, schooling does not equal educated or intelligent. you can learn, well, just about anything on your own. don't need no fancy pieces of paper to tell you what you know.TestECull said:
anyways, got a BA in art and a Masters in business. currently a starving artist with his own business. lol! good times! XD
though I'm an unofficial student of web programing, like php/html, web design and promotion, and physics. all just for fun, ya know.
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Digital humanities, which is kind of a broad umbrella term for a lot of sort-of-similar disciplines. To make a long story short, what I'm doing is computer-based stylistic analysis to attribute authorship in collaborative Elizabethan plays. To put it another way, I'm trying to get a computer to tell me which parts of a play written by two or more people might have been written by which playwright. It's both more interesting and more tedious than it sounds.Chemical Alia said:
Oh, and I forgot to mention earlier--I was well on my way to a BS in computer science before I lost the job that was reimbursing all of my tuition expenses. I can't complain too much, though, since it set me on the path I'm on now.