What's Your Opinion on Supermodels ??

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Grey Day for Elcia

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They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.
basically this. They are useless in my opinion.
lul

Knows nothing about them personally + Dislikes their job = They are useless?

You should probably tell all their family and friends how the person they know and love has no use, as they stand in front of a camera for a few hours. I'll wait here. Tell me how it goes.
 

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For the most part, i don't like modern ones. Its the ones that have really pale-looking skin, very skinny, hair always pulled back, with the same boring eyeliner and other makeup that just makes them look seriously lifeless. a lot of you should have seen what i'm talking about, though my description might not be too helpful...

When they actually have some noticeable volume to their figure, those are the ones i like. and when we get to see their personalities, they're usually even more likeable in my eyes. Classy attire is a big thumbs-up for me any day.

and I'm kinda annoyed by completely impractical outfits, like the ones on the victorias secret fashion shows, though my mother insists they're adorable. and thats all fine and dandy, but its like, "whats the point?"

But those models are great eye-candy, and some of them look like sticks, some of them look real, but whatever.

and i don't really see any of this anywhere besides the Female side of Modeling. very interesting...
 

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This is the last subject I would have expected to see on this site, but hey I've got a few things to say about it.

I have no interest in the fashion industry so I don't know about it's history, but from what I see of models now I can find a lot to dislike. They are far too tall and far too skinny. Just not attractive, or even realistic. They just look like giant walking skeleton freaks. And they get far too much respect for what they do. All they do is pose and walk a few feet occasionally. Their existence is for nothing other than to be something to place another person's work on. They should not be respected or idolised for that.


Very true and eloquently put:)
Um um um. Just because you don't find them attractive personally doesn't give you the right to dismiss them as ugly. They are not giant walking skeleton freaks, and that is a horrible thing to say about ANYONE. There are tall thin people that aren't models you know. I bet if you met a tall thin person who wasn't a model you'd be okay with them, but if they're a model everyone is like OMG EW NO. Why do people in this thread seem to think that a model isn't a human with feelings or thoughts?? Or that being a model automatically makes them an awful person who lacks intelligence or a personality?

"Their existence is for nothing than to be something to place an other person's work on". Oh wow. Excuse you? Cause you know, obviously models don't have lives outside modeling. They don't have friends, or family. They don't have hobbies, they don't do anything with their lives at all. They're actually generated in labs.

All sarcasm aside, ARE YOU JOKING?
Basically this. One of the things I really dislike about online communities is that there always seems to be certain "allowable targets" for general abuse. Models are one of the really common ones.

So - just to be totally clear - none of the following makes a person inherently unattractive, stupid, arrogant or worthless:
-> making a living as a model
-> making a living in adult entertainment
-> being very thin
-> being very fat
-> having plastic surgery
-> wearing a lot of makeup
 

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snip the psychosis

Why are you so angry? What has happened to you to make you this way? I want to know.


Also, modeling is the most impressive way to fake doing work. You manage to get MONEY like you work. You have lots of STRESS as if you worked. You even have to spend a lot of time DOING it like work. But you aren't. Sports players are more deserving of their stupidly overpaid salaries
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Strazdas said:
Psykoma said:
They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.
basically this. They are useless in my opinion.
lul

Knows nothing about them personally + Dislikes their job = They are useless?

You should probably tell all their family and friends how the person they know and love has no use, as they stand in front of a camera for a few hours. I'll wait here. Tell me how it goes.
While i dont work in the profession i know a few things about thier job. I do dislike it. And i think their job is useless and most of them sacrifice everything, even basic education for it, therefore making themselves useless. the family and frined argument is invalid, because in that case persona egoistic emotions rules over logic, which is bad for everyone.
 

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Strazdas said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Strazdas said:
Psykoma said:
They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.
basically this. They are useless in my opinion.
lul

Knows nothing about them personally + Dislikes their job = They are useless?

You should probably tell all their family and friends how the person they know and love has no use, as they stand in front of a camera for a few hours. I'll wait here. Tell me how it goes.
While i dont work in the profession i know a few things about thier job. I do dislike it. And i think their job is useless and most of them sacrifice everything, even basic education for it, therefore making themselves useless. the family and frined argument is invalid, because in that case persona egoistic emotions rules over logic, which is bad for everyone.
Pray tell how you are more useful than Petra Nemcová--a renowned philanthropist who has been internationally recognized for her charity work, both with the charity she set up (Happy Hearts) and with other charities and relief efforts. Her country's government personally thanked her for her work after the tsunami that devastated Hati.

Oh, look at that; an intelligent, kind and supremely valuable human being that has done more to help this planet than most people ever will. She's also a supermodel. You see, people are't defined by their profession. It might be a confusing concept to you, but individuals are in fact, not the jobs they perform for an income. I don't care how much you wanna stereotype and carry on about judging the worth of a human being from behind your little computer screen. Someone wants to be a model, follow's through with it and reaches their dreams? Good-the-fuck-on-them. They are living their life and enjoying it. They can still read, learn, help others, give joy to friends and strangers alike--all the things human beings are capable of. I'm also pretty sure the hundreds of millions of people who enjoy the fashion industry are glad models exist and I'm certain the hundreds of millions of people who earn the money they need to feed their families are thankful they exist. How many people do you create jobs for? How many people come home after work and look forward to seeing you on the T.V.? How much work have you done for charity? How much awareness have you raised for critical issues? How much joy do you bring to people's lives?

You might wanna try being nicer to people and doing something more productive than bashing an entire collective of people you know nothing about personally, before trying to tell us what other humans are "worth." Just a thought.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
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Pray tell how you are more useful than Petra Nemcová--a renowned philanthropist who has been internationally recognized for her charity work, both with the charity she set up (Happy Hearts) and with other charities and relief efforts. Her country's government personally thanked her for her work after the tsunami that devastated Hati.

Oh, look at that; an intelligent, kind and supremely valuable human being that has done more to help this planet than most people ever will. She's also a supermodel. You see, people are't defined by their profession. It might be a confusing concept to you, but individuals are in fact, not the jobs they perform for an income. I don't care how much you wanna stereotype and carry on about judging the worth of a human being from behind your little computer screen. Someone wants to be a model, follow's through with it and reaches their dreams? Good-the-fuck-on-them. They are living their life and enjoying it. They can still read, learn, help others, give joy to friends and strangers alike--all the things human beings are capable of. I'm also pretty sure the hundreds of millions of people who enjoy the fashion industry are glad models exist and I'm certain the hundreds of millions of people who earn the money they need to feed their families are thankful they exist. How many people do you create jobs for? How many people come home after work and look forward to seeing you on the T.V.? How much work have you done for charity? How much awareness have you raised for critical issues? How much joy do you bring to people's lives?

You might wanna try being nicer to people and doing something more productive than bashing an entire collective of people you know nothing about personally, before trying to tell us what other humans are "worth." Just a thought.
Oh, look, cherry picking an example to blanked all other cases and prove someone is wrong just because there is a single person that does not fit into the borders provided. here we call those exceptions. Altrough i could argue with you about "helping the planet" she did help the people living on it. Individuals are individuals, they are not defined by their work. However a single individual does not make the job itself good. There are people who rob others and then donate it all to charity. They still are criminals, even if they do more good tan the actual owner. The job itself does not change because a person x is doing it.
Drug barons are also "living the dream and enjoying the life". that does not make their porfession commendable. and no im not saying that supermodels are criminals, merely that just because person is happy does not mean hes a good person.
Currently i create 0 jobs. If i were to reach my dream i would create job for thousands, tens of thousands. I am still young, and i have the opportunity to reach such abilities. Will i is a different question. I would never want anyone looking forward to "seeing me on TV". Thats for 5 minute of fame people. i woudl rather them remember my opinions. I dont believe in charity. I believe in education. Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day. teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a lifetime. I have raised awareness about critical issues, whether people listened about it is another discussion better left out of this tipic, as it woudl be offtopic. How much joy i bring? i dont know, is there a way to measure "joy"?. Now how much of that an average supermodel does, not one you cherry picked?
And i guess you can use your own advice you put in your last paragraph.
 

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I think it's a pretty shitty job and I despise the modern fashion industry that involves female supermodels, but they don't affect me so much that I neither like nor dislike them. I'm apathetic towards the walking dolls.
 

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Strazdas said:
Individuals are individuals, they are not defined by their work.
Hey, look, you just defeated your own argument. Good job.

Now, a little less qq about people living their live and a little more doing something productive, k? Then we can talk about your worth.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Strazdas said:
Individuals are individuals, they are not defined by their work.
Hey, look, you just defeated your own argument. Good job.

Now, a little less qq about people living their live and a little more doing something productive, k? Then we can talk about your worth.
How did i defeat my argument when i never claimed that individuals are anything? And who are you to talk about how productive i am? how about we talk about what you have done? would you like to lay your life in the scales for a change?
 

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Strazdas said:
i never claimed that individuals are anything
Strazdas said:
Psykoma said:
They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.
basically this. They are useless in my opinion.
Right there. You said models are useless. Unless you want to rewrite what you originally submitted and mean to say "some?" I am all for you backpedaling and eating your own words, lol.

Strazdas said:
And who are you to talk about how productive i am? how about we talk about what you have done? would you like to lay your life in the scales for a change?
What's the problem? You sounded so sure of yourself before. Now you're all defensive. Surely if you are so certain that people who model are useless you would have a way to prove it. Go ahead. Show us all how models are "useless." I dare you. Or do you always troll forums, looking for topics to attack people you've never met--perhaps out of jealousy?
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Strazdas said:
i never claimed that individuals are anything
Strazdas said:
Psykoma said:
They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.
basically this. They are useless in my opinion.
Right there. You said models are useless. Unless you want to rewrite what you originally submitted and mean to say "some?" I am all for you backpedaling and eating your own words, lol.

Strazdas said:
And who are you to talk about how productive i am? how about we talk about what you have done? would you like to lay your life in the scales for a change?
What's the problem? You sounded so sure of yourself before. Now you're all defensive. Surely if you are so certain that people who model are useless you would have a way to prove it. Go ahead. Show us all how models are "useless." I dare you. Or do you always troll forums, looking for topics to attack people you've never met--perhaps out of jealousy?
Models are description of a job, not a description of a personality.
I never intended to look overconfident, however you seem to be the one attacking people and trolling and yet provide no reason why we should listen to you more than, say, me.
 

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Strazdas said:
Models are description of a job, not a description of a personality.
Models are not "A description of a job"--that makes no sense. Modeling is a description. But you said "[Supermodels] are useless."

I like all this backpedaling you are doing, by the way. Keep it up.


Strazdas said:
I never intended to look overconfident, however you seem to be the one attacking people and trolling and yet provide no reason why we should listen to you more than, say, me.
I'm sorry, but did you miss the question?

Surely if you are so certain that people who model are useless you would have a way to prove it. Go ahead. Show us all how models are "useless." I dare you.
Or did you avoid that on purpose because you can't actually supply any proof to support your claim that "they are useless"?
 

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Modelling and being a model is the same thing. Models are a description of a job.
Models main job is to advertise usually single-copy designer products that in most cases are never going into the market, thus earning money for a service that has no purpose as there is no point to advertise an item that is never going to be used to begin with. It is logical to assume that therefore the work they have done been useless as it has served no purpose. If it were, say, government spending money on a truck that never hits the road they would be blamed on wasting money. In modelling world thats a job well done.