Whats your stance on drug use?

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Kolby Jack

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I'm all for making the debilitating and very dangerous drugs (pretty much all of them except weed) illegal to own or use. People are morons, and I firmly believe that the government should makes laws to help stop people from being morons.

As for marijuana, I'm indifferent on legalization. Personally, I'm against using it (along with all the other drugs) because it basically makes you temporarily stupid and detached from reality. I'm not okay with that. I'm not sure if I'd go as far as saying I'm afraid of fogging my mental capacities, but it's still something I want to avoid whenever I can. I like my brain and I like to think about things rationally. Losing that ability, even temporarily, has no benefits to me. I'm also heavily against the idea that smoking weed is cool. It's not. It's not going to make you a "druggie loser" or whatever, but don't fool yourself into thinking it makes you cool, please.

Anyway, it's not an especially harmful substance, and from what I hear it makes a decent painkiller, so eh. No matter what happens, it will always be heavily regulated, so potheads, please hold your fanfare if it gets "legalized." I do like the recent legislation in New York that only gives you a fine for possession of a small amount rather than jail time. THAT is a good idea.
 

Joccaren

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I'm not ever going to touch them, but at the very least drugs less harmful than Alchohol and Smoking are fine.
From there restrictions should be loosened a bit for research into the drugs, and possible medicinal use of them in the right circumstances. Quote from David Nutt [Neuropsychopharmacology professor at Imperial College London, headed UK Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs technical committee for 7 years]:
I can show you 150 papers telling you how the brain reacts to angry faces, but I can't show you a single paper that tells you what cannabis does
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Hunter65416

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I think people should be able to do whatever they want provided it doesn't affect other peoples lives negatively.

Certain ultra-addictive drugs should be fought because thats always going to lead to crime but cannabis and the like should be legalized immediately..hell, Alcohol is causing far, far, FAR more damage to society than any other illegal drugs..maybe even all of them combined if you excuse the amount of amount of money our governments are spending to put small time weed-smokers behind bars. Its just a really stupid situation but im proud that our generation seems to be more open-minded and hopefully once all the stupid old people in charge at the moment die out we will have a better world.
 

TehCookie

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If you lock yourself in your basement and do them, go ahead. If you do them on the street and hurt someone/something you should be punished.

I'd never do them because I care for my body and mind.
 

fenrizz

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I pro Cannabis, Alcohol (beer and wine), Coffee and magic mushrooms.

I am against booze over 40%, most hard drugs and tobacco (even though I smoke 20 a day myself).

In a perfect world people would enjoy lightly alcoholic (4.5% - 15%) and Cannabis in moderation.
Sadly that won't be happening anytime soon.
 

fenrizz

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TehCookie said:
If you lock yourself in your basement and do them, go ahead. If you do them on the street and hurt someone/something you should be punished.

I'd never do them because I care for my body and mind.
But I like to smoke my pot out in the wilderness :(
 

irmasterlol

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Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.
 

Broady Brio

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Alcohol? Perfectly acceptable.
Tobacco? Fine I guess, but it's awfully smelly to say the least.
Cannabis? Whatever, just don't try and force me to have some.
Any other drugs? Get away from me.
 

fenrizz

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irmasterlol said:
Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.
That is because those of us that are socially adjusted and mature tend to keep out illegal habits to ourselves, or at least to a close circle of fellow minded friends.
Don't want to get in trouble with the police or be stigmatized in our local community.

Your 17 year old sister is not a stereotypical stoner, just a stereotypical 17year old :)
 

OutcastBOS

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Honestly, I don't give a hoot as long as they don't use it to hurt other people. And I also think that they should not be illegal, but sold like cigarettes and alcohol are, so that way the "drug trade" and shit would be pretty much useless except for maybe getting cheaper things. Hey, another plus side is more revenue for the government and the economy, and partially getting things out of the hands of criminals.
 

irmasterlol

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fenrizz said:
irmasterlol said:
Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.
That is because those of us that are socially adjusted and mature tend to keep out illegal habits to ourselves, or at least to a close circle of fellow minded friends.
Don't want to get in trouble with the police or be stigmatized in our local community.

Your 17 year old sister is not a stereotypical stoner, just a stereotypical 17year old :)
I'm still convinced the well-adjusted and mature ones don't exist. I can't figure out why, but I get a gut reaction that my method of escapist time-wasting is somehow superior to chemically aided escapist time-wasting.
 

Booze Zombie

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You know how you go to that Asari trade world in Mass Effect 2 and it turns out everything is completly legal, basically? From slaves to even the most dangerous drugs?

Yeah, drug law should be like that. The part where if it's an especially dangerous drug it has a 10 page contract and very clear warning on the packet explaining that it is, in fact, quite hazardous and will potentially kill you.

Seriously, I don't see the problem with just unlocking it all and monatising it. It seems like the most effective way of simualtaniously removing criminality (thus letting addicts be helped medically, not punished criminally) and saftey issues from substance use (in that it'll be an "un-cut" product) and bolstering the economy (with the money not being made by criminals but legitimate businesses).

irmasterlol said:
Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.
I would disagree with you, good sir. Most stoners I meet are gentle, relaxed souls who contemplate the world around them.

Met one in my philosophy class (only one) and he's genuinely a thoughtful individual who just enjoys a good sensory experience and it happens to be marijuana... sometimes more powerful hallucinogens, but I digress.

I haven't met anyone I hate who uses marijuana.
 

Agow95

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I wouldn't use drugs (alcohol being exempt), but if you want to kill yourself, sure, go ahead, the only thing I'd ban is a drug that harms others, not as in you snort cocaine then crash a bus, but as in second-hand smoke, if you take a bit of ecstasy a few feet away from me, I'm not getting lung cancer, if you smoke, I am, it's like going around waving uranium about on a stick.
 

Supertegwyn

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revjor said:
I eat carrots to get vitamin a so I can see in the dark.
That's a myth.

OT: People seem to be forgetting that if I overdose on say, Heroin, and get rushed to a hospital, I am taking resources away from people who need help for more legitimate reasons, such as stabbings.

P.S. I hate smoking more than anything else in the world.
 

dudycat1

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i personally think that it's okay to smoke cannabis and drink alcohol if you think that's a drug.

i don't mind tobacco but i personally don't want to run the risk of getting lung cancer but i like the smell of the smoke and my opinions on cigars are the same.

but i don't think anyone should take the 'harder' drugs like heroin and cocaine.
 

AnnaIME

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I like tea. I take my Earl Grey hot, and with a little milk. Alcohol is better than tea when cleaning electronic circuit boards, though.

Where I live, tobacco is going out of fashion. 20 years ago smoking was ubiquitous, but today it is a stigma. Smoking is for the weak, the uneducated and the vulgar.

Alcohol is another story. "Normal" society is so steeped in alcohol that many people don't even see the damage that alcohol does. Many posters here say that anything goes as long as you don't hurt anyone else, but that's just it - the risk of hurting someone increases when you drink. Your ability to make rational decisions suffers, because isn't that why we drink in the first place? To relax, to let go of our inhibitions? Inhibitions is what makes us function as responsible adults. You don't have to drink a lot to neglect your child, to have unwise sex, to get in a fight, to gamble too much money, to damage your friendships, to take unnecessary risks, to... the list goes on.

Making alcohol illegal is too late. Laws can't work without popular support, and alcohol is very popular. I still believe alcohol will go the way of tobacco.
 

fenrizz

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irmasterlol said:
fenrizz said:
irmasterlol said:
Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.
That is because those of us that are socially adjusted and mature tend to keep out illegal habits to ourselves, or at least to a close circle of fellow minded friends.
Don't want to get in trouble with the police or be stigmatized in our local community.

Your 17 year old sister is not a stereotypical stoner, just a stereotypical 17year old :)
I'm still convinced the well-adjusted and mature ones don't exist. I can't figure out why, but I get a gut reaction that my method of escapist time-wasting is somehow superior to chemically aided escapist time-wasting.
Perhaps so.
It's not like we all go around in a constant haze, though some do.
Most of us smoke a little once in a while and I assure you that most of us are quite well adjusted and mature.

I think maybe your problem is that you have only experienced teenage stoners?
Either way, we're not all bad people.
 

Silent observer

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I personally never really seen the appeal of drugs (with the exception of alcohol - I drink occasionally in moderation). I've always felt like there are much better ways to have fun.

Having said that, I've not really had a huge exposure to drugs growing up where I have - there were a couple of regular drug users at my old school, but they made such a mess of their lives that they managed to single-handedly convince our entire student body that drugs were massively lame, and only losers did them - bizarrely they were far more effective than any number of drug awareness lessons.
 

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Supertegwyn said:
OT: People seem to be forgetting that if I overdose on say, Heroin, and get rushed to a hospital, I am taking resources away from people who need help for more legitimate reasons, such as stabbings.
No, not everyone forgets, it's just that you will also be taking up resources if you say...go swimming in the sea and end up in trouble, go climbing in the wilderness and fall or get lost, go downhill mountain biking and end up crashing into a tree or any other potentially risky activity that we do for enjoyment. If we're willing to help someone who has hurt themselves doing something like that, I see no reason why there should be any extra issues regarding at least the immediate health effects of drug use on an individual. Maybe the long term health effects of continued use could require some contribution, but then that's part of the reason I feel legalisation and regulation, taxation of the product in question allows for the offset of costs down the line.