When are you actually you?

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Alexander Kirby

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Hey, you know when people say "They're not themselves when they're hungry/tired/drunk" or "It's just the medicine/alcohol/Tourette's talking" or something along those lines. Well it got me thinking; who are You, can you ever be... not You, and if so why not?

I think that most people would class someone as being themselves on a normal day when they've had plenty of sleep, a good meal and are not under the influence of any questionable plant matter. However, one could argue that when, for example, drunk, people are more themselves than anyone else; you could say their true personalities are showing through without the restraints we have gained from society, and the instinct that mother will give us a nasty slap. However, as it was once said:

"It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."
[small]Professor Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore[/small]

Sure, Dumbledore isn't a real person, but the point I think is very well put. Anyone has the ability to say and do exactly what they are thinking, but is it perhaps what we choose not to do that defines our character? If so, in a situation when choosing not to do is much more difficult, does it make you any less of yourself?

So what do you think makes you who you are? Do you think outside influences (or even inside ones) can make you into a person who isn't you? Or do you think that you can never be anyone but "you" and the entire prospect is just a load of tripe?
 

Total LOLige

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I don't buy into the 'we are more ourselves when drunk' theory, personality wise at least, sure we may act on instinct more. I am never not 'me', I'm always this hilarious forum psoter you've grown to love(or hate).
 

Guffe

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I guess I am always myself.
If I'm hungry and irritated sure I might be a bit more easily aggravated than on a good day and if drunk I might say stuff, but I think, especially on the drunk part, that we could say those things anyway, the alcohol just lowers the limit of when saying it!
So I guess I am always me, Even here on these forums and other interweb places, I never go on the "No one here knows who I really am, I can do anything I want!"
 

Lionsfan

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Total LOLige said:
I don't buy into the 'we are more ourselves when drunk' theory, personality wise at least, sure we may act on instinct more. I am never not 'me', I'm always this hilarious forum psoter you've grown to love(or hate).
Same here. I guess you're more "honest", but it's really just saying everything and anything that comes to mind.


As for when I'm actually me, well all the time? I guess?

If being hungry makes you more angry/irritable than normal, well that's who you are. A guy who acts up when he's hungry. The way you react to adversity and outside forces is who you are, you can't use them as a cop-out
 

Fiz_The_Toaster

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I'm me all the time.

You only let people see parts of you when you want them to see it. If you're totally professional at work it's gonna be striking for them to see how you really act when you're not at work and hanging out with friends.

I'm always this sarcastic goof ball you see before you. Whether you like it or not. :D
 

Thaluikhain

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In the dark.

To elaborate, a person is truly themselves when nobody can see them, when they can't be judged on what they are doing.

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I'd also say that you are who you are when you are angry. The "I'm not ____ist, I just use ____ist insults when someone online annoys me"...I don't buy that.
 

Total LOLige

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Lionsfan said:
Total LOLige said:
I don't buy into the 'we are more ourselves when drunk' theory, personality wise at least, sure we may act on instinct more. I am never not 'me', I'm always this hilarious forum psoter you've grown to love(or hate).
If being hungry makes you more angry/irritable than normal, well that's who you are. A guy who acts up when he's hungry. The way you react to adversity and outside forces is who you are, you can't use them as a cop-out
This reminded me of this snickers ad:


"You turn into a right diva when you're hungry"
 

Talaris

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I guess I have three sides to me currently:

At work: I tend to be my socially anxious self and just keep my head down and focus on work.

At home: My most relaxed, when I can watch anime/play videogames without feeling any sort of judgement imposed on me.

Band related things: I tend to be a pushover and just do what I'm told in order to ensure acceptance.

Kind of sad, but I feel there is only one person in this world who knows the real me, and unfortunately he currently resides in a different country.
 

Hero of Lime

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I've never understood the "you're not you when you are hungry/tired" line. If I'm hungry I'm still me, just occasionally complaining about being hungry every 20 minutes or so.

Anyway, I suppose when I act the most natural is when I'm with my family and close friends. I'm quiet and reserved when at school for example, or in public with strangers, but when I'm at home, or with friends I'll be more talkative. In one way, I guess the quiet, reserved me is still me since I act like that a lot.
 

Cheesepower5

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There is no true me, and what I'd like to think are my real attributes are probably the furthest from what they actually are. I'm me when I'm happy, when I'm sad, when I'm sober, when I'm high, when I'm in company and alone. After all, me is all that I am, not just the aspects I like most.

Or was this thread less philosophical than I interpreted...? I'm kind of just jumping in and posting before reading here.

I'm kind of tempted to give my kids as many names as Dumbledore has. And on another note, there's an old Latin saying... Something like "in vino veritas", basically, when you're drunk, you're honest.
 

Reeve

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If you really want to mess with your head you should read up about the modular theory of mind. ;)
 

cori

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This is something I've heard in a TED talk and I thought it was pretty interesting. People should stop thinking that there's a core to us, something unchangable in our personalities that makes us uniquely us. Like a watch, we are merely something made of all sorts of different parts. If you took a watch apart, it would be a scattered collection of objects that could create a watch but there is no "core" that you can attach the parts to when putting the watch back together. In other words, there is no "watch" until all the parts are put together. This is like us. The parts that make the watch are the situations we're in, the past, the present, the people around us, our influences and only when all those parts are put together are who we are. There is no defined traits that we're born with to attach the experiences. So what I'm trying to say is, you are always you whether you're hungry, drunk or just by yourself. These influences are part of what shapes who you are, another part to customise the watch. You may change your parts but there isn't a certain "you" that is at the core of who you are or a situation where you're more you than normal. In essence, no matter who you're talking to, where you are, how you feel or what you have, you will always be you.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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I think I'm always me, as stupid as it sounds. The fact that I'm quiet around people and things is very much a part of my character. I'm very much the loud, impulsive, soul of the party kinda guy when I'm drunk, but I definitely feel like that's a part of me, and I feel like that part of me is covered by another part of me when I'm sober- the quiet, shy, reserved part of me that is afraid of looking the fool.

So yeah. Alcohol, MDMA, weed, sober, whatever, it's always me and I always feel like it's me, it's just showing a side of me that people might not always see.
 

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You are what you become in the dark.

In other words, you are whatever you do when there's no-one around to judge you, no outside influences, nothing but your conscience and your reason for guidance.

[sub]which I guess means I'm a wanker?[/sub]
 

Evil Smurf

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I'm whomever you want me to be baby ;D

I'm myself all the time, sometimes I'm drunk, sometimes I'm flirty. Usually I'm helpful, humble and always generous.
 

FalloutJack

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I am never not me. The only thing being drunk could mean - and this usually applies to everyone else anyway - is that it's MORE of me at the helm than usual.
 

piinyouri

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When I'm alone.

That's probably the only time all of my social inhibitions fall.
I don't think I'm even 100% myself around my boyfriend.
 

Nouw

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I'm always me; each aspect of my self is just as true and important as the other.