not flipping the bits manually with a mirrorForumSafari said:
Will you ever stop wallowing in your filthy state of wannabe?
But hey... neither of us are as hardcore as someone who uses Emacs. D:
When are you allowed to consider people just plain stupid
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Will you ever stop wallowing in your filthy state of wannabe?
But hey... neither of us are as hardcore as someone who uses Emacs. D:
Dear God no, not a chance. There's no way I can compete with anyone that uses an editor that supports foot pedals.lacktheknack said:
I'll just throw in my opinions about the whole entire thing instead of just one side...
To me, Stupidity is when a person doesn't learn from their actions or mistakes and therefore, will do the same thing over and over again, failing miserably every time... Never once learning, never once trying something new... This is rare though so stupid people are rare.
Ignorance is the proper word that should be used for "lack of knowledge". Most people will call someone stupid for not knowing something but the targeted person isn't stupid, just ignorant to that knowledge.
Intelligence is a stable thing in my mind. It cannot weakened nor strengthen naturally. (It can unnaturally if one uses human-made material to help it or gets harmed in the head in a very specific way to 'crush it'). Intelligence is basically how your mind works, how fast you can think, learn, etc. Intelligence allows you to think more clearly, pay more attention to ALL details, etc. That sort of stuff...
Knowledge is what you know and had learned, basically.
To me, Stupidity is when a person doesn't learn from their actions or mistakes and therefore, will do the same thing over and over again, failing miserably every time... Never once learning, never once trying something new... This is rare though so stupid people are rare.
Ignorance is the proper word that should be used for "lack of knowledge". Most people will call someone stupid for not knowing something but the targeted person isn't stupid, just ignorant to that knowledge.
Intelligence is a stable thing in my mind. It cannot weakened nor strengthen naturally. (It can unnaturally if one uses human-made material to help it or gets harmed in the head in a very specific way to 'crush it'). Intelligence is basically how your mind works, how fast you can think, learn, etc. Intelligence allows you to think more clearly, pay more attention to ALL details, etc. That sort of stuff...
Knowledge is what you know and had learned, basically.
I judge 'stupidity' based on actions.
Things a persons says or does is a much better indicator then how learned they are. A GPA doesn't really do much when your still telling your buddy to hold your beer cause your gonna snowboard off a roof into a pool with enough space between that missing is likely.
Things a persons says or does is a much better indicator then how learned they are. A GPA doesn't really do much when your still telling your buddy to hold your beer cause your gonna snowboard off a roof into a pool with enough space between that missing is likely.
Add one more mark to the statement "ignorant does not equal stupid". Being proud of being ignorant or ridiculing someone over expertise they DO have on the other hand does reek of stupid.
That said, I know the feeling OP describes. I remember a girl asking this in a high school class:
"Why are people in Africa black? If I give birth in Africa the baby is still white, right?"
I don't even...my first assumption was she was trying to make a joke and overdid it. I mean damn. This was a school people actually needed decent grades to get in, no longer primary school obligated to take everyone in. I started to wonder if this girl, physically ripe enough to have offspring, even knew where babies come from. Doesn't help that my personal 'stupid alarm' tends to set off around people who can't grasp the theory of evolution.
That said, I know the feeling OP describes. I remember a girl asking this in a high school class:
"Why are people in Africa black? If I give birth in Africa the baby is still white, right?"
I don't even...my first assumption was she was trying to make a joke and overdid it. I mean damn. This was a school people actually needed decent grades to get in, no longer primary school obligated to take everyone in. I started to wonder if this girl, physically ripe enough to have offspring, even knew where babies come from. Doesn't help that my personal 'stupid alarm' tends to set off around people who can't grasp the theory of evolution.
To me one of stupidities is that person doesn't seen to have the same common education as everyone else. Sure school are different but they usually have one common thing to teach pupil about!
Another would be causing trouble that affected everyone or some people which could of been prevented if another person had switch role as the stupid person. Also no the switched person is not super intelligent, I meant more about knowing common stuff-
Example- I had a work experience guy in the store and he was "slow". Sure he means well but none the less he couldn't keep up with the simplist task which one of them is cleaning the toliet.
He couldn't figure out that there are bleachs and other chemicals behind the toliet and using hot water (which we learn that hot water kill bateria) and he couldn't figure out how to use the mop bucket at all (all he did was making the floor wet with the mop). He couldn't get that the next thing on the bucket is where you press the mop into and turning it to drench out the water out of the mop.
Sure I can get about never used one before until now but come on! I pretty sure some other person would of figure out how to mop and clean the floor (I mean the bleachs had instruction at the back of it)!
Before you asked, he was told to clean the toliet by the manager (had an important visit) and was left alone to do it. Even then he could of said he didn't know how to clean and needed some explaination. It was only when the manager told me to check up on him since he was taking ages to do that I was dumbstuck at his paces.
Another would be causing trouble that affected everyone or some people which could of been prevented if another person had switch role as the stupid person. Also no the switched person is not super intelligent, I meant more about knowing common stuff-
Example- I had a work experience guy in the store and he was "slow". Sure he means well but none the less he couldn't keep up with the simplist task which one of them is cleaning the toliet.
He couldn't figure out that there are bleachs and other chemicals behind the toliet and using hot water (which we learn that hot water kill bateria) and he couldn't figure out how to use the mop bucket at all (all he did was making the floor wet with the mop). He couldn't get that the next thing on the bucket is where you press the mop into and turning it to drench out the water out of the mop.
Sure I can get about never used one before until now but come on! I pretty sure some other person would of figure out how to mop and clean the floor (I mean the bleachs had instruction at the back of it)!
Before you asked, he was told to clean the toliet by the manager (had an important visit) and was left alone to do it. Even then he could of said he didn't know how to clean and needed some explaination. It was only when the manager told me to check up on him since he was taking ages to do that I was dumbstuck at his paces.
I consider ignorance to be a lack of knowledge, where as stupidity is more of a lack of intelligence. I generally define intelligence as a propensity for understanding or problem solving though there's no real concrete definition of intelligence.
So someone would be stupid if they're unable to understand a simple topic after having it explained to them, or be unable to solve simple problems.
So someone would be stupid if they're unable to understand a simple topic after having it explained to them, or be unable to solve simple problems.
Do they vote conservative?
Nah, people are not stupid, just ignorant. You learn and that makes up for ignorance.
Nah, people are not stupid, just ignorant. You learn and that makes up for ignorance.
I would normally consider someone 'stupid' if they are not willing to accept that they may be wrong in some aspect. Henceforth 'this is what I say and this is right then.'
Allthough for the darwin awards I would have a good contestant I believe..I have a friend who thought it was a fun idea to ride down a hill in a shopping cart. Now to my defense seeing as he called me at 2:30ish in the morning...all I could get out was 'have fun..-hangs up-' the only thing I regret in all of it is that I wish I were there to film it so I could show it to him at a later date going 'yeah..that wasnt really smart'
so back to topic, yes, Stupid=not having the mindset to 'learn' or be proven wrong in a fact, in my opinion.
Allthough for the darwin awards I would have a good contestant I believe..I have a friend who thought it was a fun idea to ride down a hill in a shopping cart. Now to my defense seeing as he called me at 2:30ish in the morning...all I could get out was 'have fun..-hangs up-' the only thing I regret in all of it is that I wish I were there to film it so I could show it to him at a later date going 'yeah..that wasnt really smart'
so back to topic, yes, Stupid=not having the mindset to 'learn' or be proven wrong in a fact, in my opinion.
On a particular fact, or in general?Lilikins said:
Because, in my experience, lots of people have a blindspot or two in which they just won't listen, regardless of how otherwise intelligent they are.
thaluikhain said:
aye, a blind spot or two are of course ok, I have them aswell hehe. I meant it more as in regard that the specified person will always...no matter what...think they are correct, for instance, I was once playing trivial pursuit with some friends and 1 friend got the answer wrong, and instead of just 'oh, crap.' went more along the 'stupid' road of 'The game is lieing' and upon looking up online at various sources..etc etc...she still was mindset on the fact that she was right and everyone in the world was wrong. So, Im not calling her 'stupid' but...well yeah that was pretty stupid on that occasion hehe. Stupid people in my opinion would have that mindset by absolutely everything, not just one or two blindspots where they are inable to want to learn/accept the fact that they were wrong. Just my opinion
Ignorant: Has not learned. Usually forgivable.
Stupid: Does not think. Never forgivable.
Ignorance is not being able to read street signs in a foreign language. Stupidity is stepping off the curb without looking.
Ignorance is not knowing the menu of a restaurant on your first visit. Stupidity is not even looking at the menu, trying to order something that's not on it, and getting upset when it's a problem.
Ignorance is getting a bad grade on a test. Stupidity is not understanding why you flunked after getting bad grades all year.
Ignorance is not getting things quite right your first day on the job. Stupidity is getting fired for smoking pot in the break room.
Ignorance is not knowing the exact address or phone number when you want to order delivery at a friend's house. Stupidity is wasting the pizza guy's time instead of handing the phone to the friend whose house it is, who DOES know these things.
Ignorance is not knowing how your current relationship will turn out. Stupidity is not figuring out the reason your relationships always fail is because you always make the same mistakes.
Stupid: Does not think. Never forgivable.
Ignorance is not being able to read street signs in a foreign language. Stupidity is stepping off the curb without looking.
Ignorance is not knowing the menu of a restaurant on your first visit. Stupidity is not even looking at the menu, trying to order something that's not on it, and getting upset when it's a problem.
Ignorance is getting a bad grade on a test. Stupidity is not understanding why you flunked after getting bad grades all year.
Ignorance is not getting things quite right your first day on the job. Stupidity is getting fired for smoking pot in the break room.
Ignorance is not knowing the exact address or phone number when you want to order delivery at a friend's house. Stupidity is wasting the pizza guy's time instead of handing the phone to the friend whose house it is, who DOES know these things.
Ignorance is not knowing how your current relationship will turn out. Stupidity is not figuring out the reason your relationships always fail is because you always make the same mistakes.
Well here is a jokelacktheknack said:
OT: People are idiots. There are entire libraries filled with things I don't know. And not everything is known and been written about yet. And I don't think anyone has the time to read all those documents in one lifetime. Thus everyone is ignorant of something.
EDIT: Like me not knowing how to embed a picture... ok I think I got it this time.
This. It is also one of the most insecure and petty traits to have. To witness it just elicits pity from me.Colour Scientist said: