When did Call of Duty become an insult to gamers?

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RoBi3.0

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I don't find it insulting at all. Then again I have never been one to care much about what people do in the privacy of their parents basement. I kid, not everyone that plays CoD lives in their parents basement.... just most of them do. :)


Seriously, when did another person's game of choice become every ones concern. CoD is popular if you do not care for the game there are a metric butt ton of other games you can choose to enjoy.
 

mofo phill

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personally i think people started disliking call of duty when in modern warfare two people started abusing the game eg with commando and onemanarmydangerclose noob toobing
back in the days of cod 4 the call pf duty series was seen as magnificent apart from call of duty 3
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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People hate mainstream.
IMO the CoD games (especially CoD 4) are pretty good, and the amount of hate they're currently accepting is as unfair as it is inexplicable.
 

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4li3n said:
Plazmatic said:
I am a PC gamer, never played witcher, however from what I heard it DOES need a proper tutorial. Insults are not necessary on difference of opinion.
RTFM predates the current gen of consoles by a mile...

Da Orky Man said:
As far as I know, they only make RPG's. Fair enough, their RPG's are some of the best ever created (looking at you KotOR), but the RPG and FPS markets are radically separated.
And yet some of the people behind Dragon Age 2 straight up said that they want CoD's audience... man, that was a sad day, and frankly explained perfectly what went wrong with DA2.

how does your point hold valid, a game should be fun, having to look every thing up in a manual is not. watch the extra credits video on tutorials please.
 

4li3n

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4li3n said:
Plazmatic said:
I am a PC gamer, never played witcher, however from what I heard it DOES need a proper tutorial. Insults are not necessary on difference of opinion.
RTFM predates the current gen of consoles by a mile...
To expand on this, is basically like saying that a building could use an elevator and the refusing to enter the building because you have to use stairs... wanting an elevator is fine, refusing to use the stairs just makes you a lazy fatass...


V8 Ninja said:
Personally I see that as more of an insult to the player rather than the game. Yes, COD is simple, but that statement is saying to the receiver that he/she can't comprehend whatever game they're in, so because of that they should go back to COD.
Well to the people that think CoD is the ultimate game of ultimate destiny it's also insulting to the game to call it simple...
 

4li3n

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Plazmatic said:
how does your point hold valid, a game should be fun, having to look every thing up in a manual is not. watch the extra credits video on tutorials please.
READING BAD, MAKE BRAIN HURT...

Seriously, some people do enjoy reading, and others, like me, hate tutorials that treat you like some sort of drooling idiot because someone might never played video games before will also need to go through it...


But as i expanded above, it's not about asking that the tutorial be there (but i for one prefer that the tutorial isn't part of the story so i can skip it, like you could for most games made around 1999-2000), it's about refusing to play a game because it requires you to read stuff... might as well say you won't watch a movie because it has no explosions... that's not a weakness of the film, but of yours.
 

The Lugz

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everyone just assumes if you cant do something you're a casual bleed-over sucked in by marketing and just fling whatever half hashed insults they feel are appropriate at you and like to ignore your opinions on anything if they do not at least partially align with theirs
it's because people are %^^&*)£! and treat each-other that way in the end
 

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Right when Infinity Ward demonstrated they just didn't give a shit by their reasoning for not having dedicated servers for the PC ("IW.net is the biggest investment in the series to date" they said, and that it would be "better than dedicated servers". Bollocks: it was little more than Steamworks' matchmaking and didn't work), and shortly before the line "It's not balanced for lean" (which, as Black Ops demonstrated, was bollocks and they knew it).
 

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Snork Maiden said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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i think it is because CoD is retardedly popular and at the same time VERY simple to play
anyone can play it
anyone can be REALLY good at it
That is not true. You are talking out of your ass. Its that simple.
I'm not sure - I'm pretty good at CoD and I'm not great at games, I just play it quite a lot. I'll grant that the very best CoD players are clearly a cut above, but I found it far easier to be in the top cut most games in CoD (specifically Black Ops) than I did with Halo 2/3/Reach/Battlefield/Counterstrike/Day of Defeat/whatever. In all the other games I'm just middling, and I hesitate to say that I've just found my "style" in CoD, because I change my loadouts all the time.

The obvious reason is because it has so many players - the average CoD player probably doesn't spend anything like the time playing games that the average Counterstrike player probably does, which is why I do so much better.

EDIT: Obviously "I'm quite good so it must be easyish" is anecdotal, but I do think the weak CoD players are way weaker than weak Halo players. If I win a bunch of matches in a row on CoD with a KD of 4.00 or something I generally think I've done pretty well, whereas if I did the same on Reach I'd be super proud. If I topped the rankings consecutively on CS:S I'd be over the moon.
I played a lot of black ops and MW2 when they first came out (in black ops i have about 4 days in multiplayer play time). The thing is some of the players SUCK. My 9 YO brother and his friends play it ALL THE TIME. He has weeks of play time on there, and he and his friends all suck. A lot. Their lifetime K/D ratio is between .25 and .15. Younger crappier players bring the entire online portion is down, after all if your on a team with he and his friends your guaranteed to lose. I hate how online games have become so accessible to really young children (<15YO).
 

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The Lugz said:
everyone just assumes if you cant do something you're a casual bleed-over sucked in by marketing and just fling whatever half hashed insults they feel are appropriate at you and like to ignore your opinions on anything if they do not at least partially align with theirs
it's because people are %^^&*)£! and treat each-other that way in the end
Unless you have some sort of condition i'm pretty sure neither reading nor using stairs require some sort of special skills... the only other reason why you're not doing it is because you don''t want to, and i'm well within my right to look down on you when you're asking for someone else to make it so that you don't have to put in the effort at all...

Stuff being fun doesn't mean also being effortless... and you not wanting to put in the effort is not valid criticism of a work... only of it's market appeal... and that should only be interesting to the people making money off it, not the players.
 

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4li3n said:
V8 Ninja said:
Personally I see that as more of an insult to the player rather than the game. Yes, COD is simple, but that statement is saying to the receiver that he/she can't comprehend whatever game they're in, so because of that they should go back to COD.
Well to the people that think CoD is the ultimate game of ultimate destiny it's also insulting to the game to call it simple...
Umm...mind explaining that again? Because I didn't get whatever you were trying to say. =/
 

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when did gamers become such hipsters where "mainstream" games aren't cool. sure it's not everyone's cup of tea but it is by no means an abortion of a game. if millions are playing it there must be a reason. if you dont like it, dont play it simple as that. i find some fun in it but with each new release being kinda samey i have grown indifferent to it and wont be waiting in line for a midnight release.
 

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I would say World at War, because it was just CoD4 in WWII. No changes to gameplay. MW2 at least changed a bit, but the Treyarch games have killed it. And with MW3 coming, and nothing much beyond a flip-out sight pointed out as a gameplay change, I expect insult to injury this fall.
 

Luthir Fontaine

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When it became popular. There is nothing wrong with COD per say as any other game that has many sequels ie madden, battlefield, list goes on. Its a game that plays to its base and has a big fan base.

What COD did wrong was to basically beat the hell out of every other game in terms of sales.
 

Ch@Z

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Because it's popular. It's cool to like games that are only slightly popular (like the Witcher)
 

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Kevlar Eater said:
*OT goes here*
The exact point at which the series died and went to hell was Modern Warfare 2. Now it's just kind of this sad, pathetic, pandering mess. It's just kind of chillin', with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Pirates of the Caribbean, and all the other things I used to like that got completely ruined. It says something about you when you play it. Exactly *what* it says about you lies in the eye of the beholder.

For me, Call of Duty is no longer challenging, intelligent or fun. That's my opinion. I'll go play games I like, other people can go settle for Call of Duty, and coors lite, and keg stands, and whatever it is 12-21 year old gamers do these days. It's not my cup of tea. In fact, it's not a cup of tea at all anymore. It's red bull. Some like it, I don't. Deal with it.
 

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Because it's fun and popular. It's hard to feel sufficiently edgy when something you like is that popular. When someone says "go back to Call of Duty" they're saying "I am a superior member of our edgy gaming subculture".

If they don't play FPS games this will extend to all FPS games; if they do, they will invariably prefer Battlefield because of the "emphasis on teamwork" (read: I can only win matches when there are skilled players on my side to pick up the slack for me) or the "vehicles" (read: I need a massive overwhelming advantage to rack up a significant number of kills) or the "wide open maps/lack of killcam" (read: I only get kills when I camp).
 

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4li3n said:
Da Orky Man said:
As far as I know, they only make RPG's. Fair enough, their RPG's are some of the best ever created (looking at you KotOR), but the RPG and FPS markets are radically separated.
And yet some of the people behind Dragon Age 2 straight up said that they want CoD's audience... man, that was a sad day, and frankly explained perfectly what went wrong with DA2.
Actually, with DA2, the composer let slip that the unexpected popularity prompted the big-wigs to make a sequel to capitalize on it. It didn't really work as players from all around completely saw through the stitching and only made the rips larger.

Addendum: BioWare definitely said they "wanted CoD's audience" though. Whatever that meant, who knows? There's an article floating around here about it somewhere...