Owyn_Merrilin said:Would you feel better if I said "arty" instead of "art?" Also, I gave several definitions of art, they're scattered throughout the thread. My personal definition of art is that there are many definitions, and which ones are valid depends on the context; for example, under US obscenity law, something that is not "devoid of any artistic merit," as one of the prongs of the miller test states it has to be, is going to be a much easier bar to hit than the definitions that people throw around requiring emotional involvement. Excuse me for apparently not giving you enough context in the OP to get the definition in use; like I said, any definition of art is going to be context sensitive.Realitycrash said:Then the OP failed at specifying his definition, going with that the general masses consider is art as a definition, without telling us.Richard Hannay said:Yes, but the OP didn't say "fancy" or "with spiritual meaning." He said "art," and gave no indication that he realizes how loaded??how potentially narrow or potentially broad??the term is.Realitycrash said:But that's not the OP's point, his point is that he feels that some people need all games to be all deep with spiritual meaning and fancy in some way, you know "art".xdom125x said:I claim that. If it is created to express something, then it is art. Whether it is expressing a good point or expressing it well is irrellevant to it's artisticness(sic?). It can be art even if it is: a game, a pile of rocks, etc.Realitycrash said:Who is claiming all games must be art?
The fact that anything can be art and IS art if looked at from the right POV, that I am fully aware of.
It's the same reason that we're all having this discussion over and over and over again. People see the word "art," apply their own definition, and gauge all other posted arguments in that light, in most cases without so much as considering that they might not actually be talking about the same thing.
Would you like me to edit "Everything from a certain POV can be art" to my original message?
If you don't give a clear and stable definition to work from, this thread will soon be as meaningful as the "Does Robots have a Soul?" thread, where the OP did not clarify what a Soul was to begin with. Might aswell ask "What color is objectively the best color?"