I choose not to give a shit about how we got here or when we're going to go away.
We're here, now, and that's all that matters.
We're here, now, and that's all that matters.
When does existence end?
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Related to the original post, is a text document infinite if it's code does not contain an end-of-file? In such a case it does not end but merely, for the time, ceases to continue.
Perhaps it is the potential of the universe that is infinite. Like a vast, yet limited number of words on an infinite page. As you change the location of the words, the content, in effect, changes, but the total contents of the document do not.
Perhaps it is the potential of the universe that is infinite. Like a vast, yet limited number of words on an infinite page. As you change the location of the words, the content, in effect, changes, but the total contents of the document do not.
self existence, sure, why not. if you die, your self existence ends their. however...
existence as a whole, no. Something will always exist, maybe not here, maybe not on earth, maybe not in this universe, but something is always there. therefore, existence can not end. if existence ends, then nothing would be left. and nothing can't be left since there is always something there. it's a loop of infinity, like using a word to explain what it means.
existence as a whole, no. Something will always exist, maybe not here, maybe not on earth, maybe not in this universe, but something is always there. therefore, existence can not end. if existence ends, then nothing would be left. and nothing can't be left since there is always something there. it's a loop of infinity, like using a word to explain what it means.
Universe is not theoretically infinite; The energy content within is not infinite; the 'volume' of space is not infinite. They are simply mind-bogglingly vast.
I believe the Big Bang theory, as it is the only theory we currently have that explains all the available data. From this it follows, that the universe is expanding and current models seem to indicate that the universe will not experience a Big Crunch. This leads to the universe expanding until the end of time (if such point will ever even come). So, theoretically, the universe will be expanding until infinity come, but since it can never come, the volume of the universe will increase forever but at any single point in time it will, theoretically, be still measureable.
This means that the end will not be the end of the universe, but rather the end of baryonic matter or energy available for work (in the physics sense of the word). How will this come about? The timeline mainly depends on if protons are in fact unstable or not. If they are unstable, they will begin to experience decay (as happens contantly in radioactive materials) and fall apart after a sufficient amount of time (that is, 10 to the power of 31 to 41 years, or 1 followed by 31 to 41 zeroes in years. For reference, the current age of the universe is about 14 billion years, or 14 followed by nine zeroes). In the end, what will be left is a cold expanding universe where space of several cubic parsecs in size will contain less than a single photon's worth of energy. There will be no light, no heat, no stars, no matter itself (as we know it). The energy available for work in the universe will be brought down to nothing as the second law of thermodynamics degrees.
On the other hand, if the protons are not unstable, the 'end' will come about by the way of black holes formed from stellar mass objects and quantum tunnelling leading to all matter slowly transforming into iron. This takes tens of orders of magnituted longer than the protonic decay scenario. But in the end, the result is the pretty much same. No heat, no energy. A cold dead universe, still expanding in size.
That is the almost inevitable end for everything, irregardless of our technology in the billions of years to come. The only escape from this, is the theory of alternative universes and even then, we would need to find a way to breach the barriers between that universe and us, and even that universe would be on it's way to dying like ours is. Nothing lasts forever.
I believe the Big Bang theory, as it is the only theory we currently have that explains all the available data. From this it follows, that the universe is expanding and current models seem to indicate that the universe will not experience a Big Crunch. This leads to the universe expanding until the end of time (if such point will ever even come). So, theoretically, the universe will be expanding until infinity come, but since it can never come, the volume of the universe will increase forever but at any single point in time it will, theoretically, be still measureable.
This means that the end will not be the end of the universe, but rather the end of baryonic matter or energy available for work (in the physics sense of the word). How will this come about? The timeline mainly depends on if protons are in fact unstable or not. If they are unstable, they will begin to experience decay (as happens contantly in radioactive materials) and fall apart after a sufficient amount of time (that is, 10 to the power of 31 to 41 years, or 1 followed by 31 to 41 zeroes in years. For reference, the current age of the universe is about 14 billion years, or 14 followed by nine zeroes). In the end, what will be left is a cold expanding universe where space of several cubic parsecs in size will contain less than a single photon's worth of energy. There will be no light, no heat, no stars, no matter itself (as we know it). The energy available for work in the universe will be brought down to nothing as the second law of thermodynamics degrees.
On the other hand, if the protons are not unstable, the 'end' will come about by the way of black holes formed from stellar mass objects and quantum tunnelling leading to all matter slowly transforming into iron. This takes tens of orders of magnituted longer than the protonic decay scenario. But in the end, the result is the pretty much same. No heat, no energy. A cold dead universe, still expanding in size.
That is the almost inevitable end for everything, irregardless of our technology in the billions of years to come. The only escape from this, is the theory of alternative universes and even then, we would need to find a way to breach the barriers between that universe and us, and even that universe would be on it's way to dying like ours is. Nothing lasts forever.
When did all the intellectual questions come in? I swear... anyways, have to agree wholeheartedly with MelasZepheos' little theory. Life is the party, don't waste it by thinking about when it end.
People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "True?" meerly vague concepts their "reality" may all be a mirage. In my opinion we stop thinking existance ends when we think it will. What falls under their concept of reality is existance. Once the place is deemed not real it dont exist savy?
We will either think that forever or do so until we have aliens from there on our doorstep.
To answer your question universe is fucking big perhaps infinite, but atleast motherfucking huge beyond our wildest numbers.
Edit: I also find it funny when people are being weirded out by intellectual threads. I thought you guys were complaining there was a lack of em, take it and enjoy the ride is what I say!
We will either think that forever or do so until we have aliens from there on our doorstep.
To answer your question universe is fucking big perhaps infinite, but atleast motherfucking huge beyond our wildest numbers.
Edit: I also find it funny when people are being weirded out by intellectual threads. I thought you guys were complaining there was a lack of em, take it and enjoy the ride is what I say!
When i die. Later World smell ass! No but in all seriousness it won't end. It will end for each one of us personally but exsitence will continue.