When Internet Celebrities have the "free pass" to insult people

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
 

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Ebola_chan said:
These internet "celebrities" you're talking about don't get a free pass. They mostly live in a constant state of backlash from outraged viewers.

Now if you're talking about actual celebrities, well, you kind of answered your own question. Because they're famous. That's why the Kanyes and Lohans of the world can get into twitter wars, spew bile and hatred towards one another and be free from consequence. They're held to a different standard because of their station in life. I don't like it, but such is life.

Also, I'm not trying to be a bully here, but I have a hard time understanding you through all the grammatical errors and bizarre sentence structure. I'm sure I'll get labelled a grammar Nazi regardless.

But that wouldn't happen if I were famous.
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SweetShark said:
He get Free Pass because even if he costantly insult people, He have a lot of fans to defend him like is their lord and Savior...
No. Not like that. Let me help you: "He gets a free pass in the sense that even when he constantly insults people, he still has a lot of fans that defend him like he is their lord and saviour." English isn't my first language either, but your posts are hardly comprehensible. I mean that seriously. I don't really get what your point is, other than that you find certain minor e-celebs too insulting, and other people disagree with you. What exactly should I discuss here? Do you have some specific examples of how this manifests? Maybe a link to a video or something so I know what is going on?

Also, on the subject of defending Jim Sterling like my lord and saviour. Of course I do that, because he is our actual lord and saviour. Didn't you know?
Yeah, sorry. My English are indeed bad. I am from Greece so my English are a lot more difficult to express it normally...
So I hope to understand that judging me for my English maybe is harsh for me, but I hope I don't stop you for telling your real opinion for the Thread I created.
 

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Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.
 

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I Just saying an example. It is not only for Metal Gear really. And I am not saying the game will be great. I just want to say to wait and see. That all.

Another good example will be the "I Hate Everything" Guy [don't know his name]. He constantly create Hate videos and insult people just because they like them. Yes, it is his style, I get it, but for god shake almighty he continue insulting people even if he see clearly some people get really hurt with his words by posting videos with their comments.....
Not cool man, not cool.
Haven't seen or heard of that hate-everything guy, but if he really refers to himself as that for an identity, then I'd advise just leaving them to it and focusing on what you personally enjoy, as that seems like an immature self-restricting identifier and would get quite tiresome pretty quickly, best to let them stew in their own forced bitterness :)
 

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Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.
As if the artist themselevs are above bullshit:

"Looks at Tim Schafer, Keiji Inafune, and so many other kickstarter dissipointments"
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.
As if the artist themselevs are above bullshit:

"Looks at Tim Schafer, Keiji Inafune, and so many other kickstarter dissipointments"
Cant really say on Inafune, since Ive never played Mega Man or Mighty No 9, but I think Tim Schafer would be fine if he was just the creative guy. I think he is shit with money, sure, but if he could be able to just focus on creating, not money, Id think he could still do fine. I'm hopeful for the new Psychonauts game. Not saying people shouldn't be mad for the kickstarter failures, but I also am critical of Kickstarter for not having more protection for backers.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.

As if the artist themselevs are above bullshit:

"Looks at Tim Schafer, Keiji Inafune, and so many other kickstarter dissipointments"
Not to say your sentiment is completely wrong, but... both of the people you named are CEOs.

Basically, business men first, artist forth or fifth.
 

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SweetShark said:
Yeah, sorry. My English are indeed bad. I am from Greece so my English are a lot more difficult to express it normally...
So I hope to understand that judging me for my English maybe is harsh for me, but I hope I don't stop you for telling your real opinion for the Thread I created.
Right, I try not to be a grammar nazi too often, (if only because I make grammatical mistakes as well) but in the case of this thread I genuinely don't know what you mean. Or to be precise, I don't get what it is that makes some negative coverage insulting according to you. Jim Sterling sometimes can go a bit overboard, he certainly did so in some of his older video's but that doesn't seem what to be what you are on about. So to clarify, could you perhaps give some examples of the relevant insults or defensive comments?

As for e-celebs getting away with insults. There is the fair point that fanboys gonna fanboy, and that people take shit from famous people that they wouldn't accept from others. Beyond that though, getting away with insults is a bit of an art that requires some charisma. Ussually e-celebs are required to be somewhat charismatic for their job so that might help them too.
 

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Comedians are generally expected to, their audiences love it. And although jim Sterling i hardly ever find funny (though he does try, bless him), he is a fairly free-lance personality who is pretty pro-consumer and endearing with his, umm...style. It is a light-hearted affair i would recommend not worrying about. Now "celebrities" who take themselves very seriously are the one's who cannot get away as easily doing the same, for obvious reasons really. It is why James Blunt became more bearable after he started to gain a self-aware sense of humour.
to take it another way, I think the word comedian is offly watered down these days. Like cause what? Does LeafyIsHere count as a comedian? Eh, maybe it's my own personal taste, I'm not a fan of comedian thats about tearing people down.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Comedians are generally expected to, their audiences love it. And although jim Sterling i hardly ever find funny (though he does try, bless him), he is a fairly free-lance personality who is pretty pro-consumer and endearing with his, umm...style. It is a light-hearted affair i would recommend not worrying about. Now "celebrities" who take themselves very seriously are the one's who cannot get away as easily doing the same, for obvious reasons really. It is why James Blunt became more bearable after he started to gain a self-aware sense of humour.
to take it another way, I think the word comedian is offly watered down these days. Like cause what? Does LeafyIsHere count as a comedian? Eh, maybe it's my own personal taste, I'm not a fan of comedian thats about tearing people down.
Don't get me wrong, I understand what you mean and am also not a fan of any comedian or person that relies on insulting their audience. Now there is a lot of nuance to this subject which is overlooked. I meant anyone who commits to a comedic style. In Jim's case, he is fairly self-deprecating and I don't recall seeing him ever intentionally insulting his audience. Maybe the odd troll during his comments, but honestly am not sure where the accusation of insults are coming from. Maybe certain fanboys who get over reactive towards critical reviews. I'm not trying to say comedians are exempt from criticism if they insult their audience, far from it, just that their audiences are often more laid back about such thing.
 

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Its interesting to see where the equilibrium of that power lies. When does one's standoffish 'I don't give a shit' attitude to 'haters' turn into fall out abuse, triggering outrage and consequences?

I suppose its entirely in the context of the person and the community that has decided to form around them. You see it in forums too, same game in a smaller pond. I remember Pimppeter once taking verbal shits on someone... Ahhh, good times. He eventually left.

[sub][sub]Not that he was the worst case of that, I just remember him being a real dick once. Probably shitposting instead of actually trying to tear down the person but text is tone-deaf.[/sub][/sub]
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.

As if the artist themselevs are above bullshit:

"Looks at Tim Schafer, Keiji Inafune, and so many other kickstarter dissipointments"
Not to say your sentiment is completely wrong, but... both of the people you named are CEOs.

Basically, business men first, artist forth or fifth.
I hardly call Tim Schafer a buisnessmen :p
 

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It becomes acceptable in the matter of the Plated For Laughs trope, as in comedy, as in like George Carlin, say.
 

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"I don't like his reactions when he get so much hate from the people who just insulted. Why? He obviously say many games are sh*t."

Yes, and saying a game is sh*t counts as insulting people because... people are games? ...games are people? Am I the only one who sees something wrong here?

The only times I have seen Jim directly insult people (actual people) is after they had attacked him (like the DDoS after his NMS review).
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Samtemdo8 said:
AccursedTheory said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well to support the claim that Kojima not only was up his own ass but also overbudgeting because here is the thing:

Not only was making Metal Gear Solid 5, he was using a completely brand new engine, and not only that he was making the next Silent Hill game and that game had the star power of having Gulliermo del Toro and the star of the Walking Dead show (don't know his name at the moment) so those 2 people are not cheap.

And he was making a Zone of the Enders 3 at that time (cancelled before gameplay or even a teaser trailer ever came out, just a model of a completely different looking robot)

But still all these projects at the same time must have been abysmmally overbudget that its no wonder Konami pulled the plug and say fuck it we are only tackling cheaper ways like Pachinko.

And mind you I say this as a guy that adores Metal Gear aswell. But I always hated MGS-2.
And Konami didn't get to profit on a lot of that. Silent Hills would most likely have made them tons of money. Cant say on Zone of the Enders, since I think that's a more niche series.

I am of the mind that Art > Money, so that's not really gonna get me to turn on Kojima. Not like Kojima has gone Tim Schafer yet (and he shouldn't have been the money handler anyways).

Konami could have just been like "Finish this first, then work on the next project", doesn't mean Konami had to flip the whole table.
The point is that its all speculation, the only ones that do know is the men at Konami and Kojima himself.

And I am of the opinion that it was a very complicated situation that was going on where both parties are guilty of their own accords than just "Konami is evil, he fucked over Kojima the Great, I want my Silent Hills, #FuckKonami!!!"
Konami hasn't been doing anything worthwhile in a long time, and MGSV was one of the few. Plus a lot of Japanese companies have become super shitty last few years, along with Capcom and SEGA, so all evidence from my point of view supports the idea that Konami is the bad guy. Atleast Capcom and SEGA still make games, even if they aren't up to par.
What AAA game developer has not been shitty to you guys? EA, Ubisoft, Acitvision, Blizzard, 2K, Gearbox, Bioware, even Bethesda.
...and? Kind of supports my bias against the big company over the single artist.

As if the artist themselevs are above bullshit:

"Looks at Tim Schafer, Keiji Inafune, and so many other kickstarter dissipointments"
Not to say your sentiment is completely wrong, but... both of the people you named are CEOs.

Basically, business men first, artist forth or fifth.
I hardly call Tim Schafer a buisnessmen :p
But he's is.
I said that as in he is not that good of a buisnessmen :p
 

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SweetShark said:
Yeah, sorry. My English are indeed bad. I am from Greece so my English are a lot more difficult to express it normally...
So I hope to understand that judging me for my English maybe is harsh for me, but I hope I don't stop you for telling your real opinion for the Thread I created.
Right, I try not to be a grammar nazi too often, (if only because I make grammatical mistakes as well) but in the case of this thread I genuinely don't know what you mean. Or to be precise, I don't get what it is that makes some negative coverage insulting according to you. Jim Sterling sometimes can go a bit overboard, he certainly did so in some of his older video's but that doesn't seem what to be what you are on about. So to clarify, could you perhaps give some examples of the relevant insults or defensive comments?

As for e-celebs getting away with insults. There is the fair point that fanboys gonna fanboy, and that people take shit from famous people that they wouldn't accept from others. Beyond that though, getting away with insults is a bit of an art that requires some charisma. Ussually e-celebs are required to be somewhat charismatic for their job so that might help them too.
Sure, let see.
Many good examples really are the Jimpressions videos he make in his Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlRceUcRZcK246t3-pSiAausEcNxrCsLx
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlRceUcRZcK0zAt8sV33ZsMCVlOgWjVoy

Now don't get me wrong, as I said I like his style and for that reason I still defend him because lets face it, he indeed play some REALLY bad games.
But sometimes when he obviously don't care so much for some games and he just insults developers without knowing a lot about them and it feels very unfair sometimes.
 

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Many people of all backgrounds and status insult each other in person, on the internet and by other means. Simply because someone is a "celebrity" doesn't change that. I don't think anyone gets a "free pass" as there are always people willing to call them out for it.

I do think there is a huge difference between insulting a person and insulting a game, a movie, a comic, artwork, or some other non person, since they are not actually insulting a person if what they are insulting isn't actually a person. For example saying something like "Modern Amine is stupid" isn't insulting a person, it is expressing an opinion about a type of cartoon, and people should not take it as a personal insult.