When practice doesn't make perfect

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DarklordKyo

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For some reason, no matter how much I practice stuff, I somehow never get better (hell, sometimes, I get worse for some reason). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can better myself despite this? (and don't say it's all in my head, it's not, I literally get worse sometimes when I practice something).
 

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Practice ... more?

I really don't know what to tell you. Maybe get lessons if it's something for which you can get lessons. Maybe you're practicing wrong and need someone to correct the technique prior to you practicing.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
For some reason, no matter how much I practice stuff, I somehow never get better (hell, sometimes, I get worse for some reason). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can better myself despite this? (and don't say it's all in my head, it's not, I literally get worse sometimes when I practice something).
what are you practicing?
its probably your frustration getting to you if your getting worse.
 

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carlsberg export said:
what are you practicing?
its probably your frustration getting to you if your getting worse.
The usual stuff, schoolwork, some foreign languages, Bayonetta on hard, etc.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
carlsberg export said:
what are you practicing?
its probably your frustration getting to you if your getting worse.
The usual stuff, schoolwork, some foreign languages, Bayonetta on hard, etc.
dunno about bayonetta because ive never played it.

foreign languages are hard to learn i found. i heard the best way to learn one was to live in the country whos language you were trying to learn, that way you are speaking it every day. when i tried to learn a language i wrote the words phonetically to help me pronounce them easier.

school...yeah i found that tricky sometimes too, i get bored quickly and i found myself imagining hypothetical situations or scenarios all the time (aka daydreaming) while the teacher went on about stuff. i liked art that was something you could indulge the imagination with though.

i guess you gotta keep at it and remember to take breaks so you dont get too frustrated. i dunno if you do or not but dont knock yourself either, nobody learnt a language in a day or became a god in science or english or sports in 5 minutes
 

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carlsberg export said:
i dunno if you do or not but dont knock yourself either, nobody learnt a language in a day or became a god in science or english or sports in 5 minutes
Tell that to this kid (10-12 tops) who apparently placed high in EVO in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 a while back.
 

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Practice is a big part of learning a lot of things but sadly natural talent does play a part otherwise everyone could become amazing at absolutely anything they decided to do.

See with the examples you gave you should be able to improve on the schoolwork etc. Bayonetta however requires hand-eye coordination and reactions and you might just be hitting your limit.

Although remember that failing is often still progress but maybe your progress has just slowed down to a crawl so you aren't noticing the improvement.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
For some reason, no matter how much I practice stuff, I somehow never get better (hell, sometimes, I get worse for some reason). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can better myself despite this? (and don't say it's all in my head, it's not, I literally get worse sometimes when I practice something).
Why can't we say that it's all in your head?
The reason why you might be getting worse at something is a result of your brain's functions so it is in your head.
I'm willing to bet that, when you attempt to do a thing, you already see yourself failing before you do it. If you can't see yourself achieving the goal, you won't achieve it.
I know that it might some like some inspirational speech type bull shit but it's the truth.
If you can't imagine yourself succeeding at something, you won't.

Tallim said:
Practice is a big part of learning a lot of things but sadly natural talent does play a part otherwise everyone could become amazing at absolutely anything they decided to do.
From my own experience, everyone CAN become amazing at anything they decide to do but they have to actually put effort into it.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
For some reason, no matter how much I practice stuff, I somehow never get better (hell, sometimes, I get worse for some reason). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can better myself despite this? (and don't say it's all in my head, it's not, I literally get worse sometimes when I practice something).
The Great Learning

It is said that The Great Learning is the gate of elementary learning. Whenever you go to a house, first you go in through the gat. Therefore the gate is a sign that you have reached the house. Going yhrough this gate, you enter the house and meet the host.
Learning is the gate to attainment of the Way. Therefore learning is the gate, do not think it is the house. You have to go through the gate to get to the house, which is inside, behind it.
Since learning is a gate, when you read books do not think this is the Way. This misconception has made many people remain ignorant of the Way no matter how much they study or how many words they know. Even if you can read as fluently as a commentary of an ancient, if you are unaware of the principles, you can not make the Way your own.
Nevertheless, even though this is so, it is also hard to reach the Way without learning. It is also hard to say that someone understands the Way by virtue of being learned and articulate. There are some people who naturally conform to the Way without learning how.
The Great Learning speaks of consummating knowledge and perfecting things. Consummating knowledge means knowing the principles of everything that people in the world know. Perfecting things means that when you know the principle of everything thoroughly, then you know everything and can do everything. When there is nothing more you know, there is nothing you can do either. When you do not know the principle, nothing at all comes to fruition.
In all things, uncertainty exists because of not knowing. Things stick in your mind because of being in doubt. When the principle is clarified, nothing sticks in your mind. This is called consummating knowledge and perfecting things. Since there is no longer anything sticking in your mind, all your tasks become easy to do.
For this reason, the practice of all arts is for the purpose of clearing away whats on your mind. In the beginning, you do not know anything, so paradoxically you do not have any questions on your mind and you are obstructed by that. This makes everything difficult to do.
When what you have studied leaves your mind entirely, and practice also disappears, then, when you perform whatever art you are engaged in, you accomplish the techniques easily without being inhibited by concern over what you have learned, and yet without deviating from what you have learned. This is spontaneously conforming to learning without being consciously aware of doing so. The science of the art of war can be understood through this.


-Yagyu Munenori [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagy%C5%AB_Munenori], A Hereditary Book on the Art of War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hereditary_Book_on_the_Art_of_War]
 

sunsetspawn

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You might have a dopamine deficiency.

Of course, I don't actually know what I'm talking about, but I know that dopamine is the neurotransmitter responsible for activating the neurons that interact with your working memory and executive functions.
 

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I'll tell you what my badminton coach said to me:

"It's not 'Practice makes perfect', it's 'Perfect practice makes'".

Basically practising an action over an over again will not help you, in my case of badminton, we were told to practice the way we would normally play. Course it depends on what it is you're trying to practice.
 

Keoul

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When practice doesn't make prefect
cry, cry againKeep trying!
Remember to step back once in a while and think to yourself.
Am I doing it right?
Is this really the best way?

Schoolwork and Languages need a different approach, it's mostly revising. Remember to read, re-read, wait a couple minutes then see what you can remember. Continue this until you can fully memorize.

As for bayonetta I have no clue, if all else fails button mash.
 

Phlakes

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1. Sometimes you're just not naturally good at things. Recognize when you're wasting your time.

2. Keep practicing. Even if you can do something, you might not be able to pick it up quickly.

I know it goes against the "follow your dreams, you can do anything!" that people are always taught when they're in elementary school, but you've got to work with what you have, and not worry about what you don't have.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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When practicing doesn't work, use gun.

If that don't work, use more gun.

That don't work...



OK, more seriously, practice something enough, and will stick. How much that is, however, may depend greatly on what kind of person you are, and maybe you should consider a different hobby.
 

irmasterlol

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I'll give you the same advice people on the Bullshido.net forums get when they complain about something being too hard.

Post less; train more.
 

SlaveNumber23

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Well technically no one can be 100% perfect, so therefore practice has never made anyone perfect at anything. It gets you close though! I dunno maybe you need to try different techniques, a different approach?
 

PunkyMcGee

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I'd try to start smaller. set steps instead of goals. Trying to get at a high mark will only end up being more harm than help. I only can use advice lke this when it comes to learning guitar or something. However, the I assume the same for anything else.