When there's a tragedy there's also "those people"

[TheDrunkNinja]

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I agree. It sickens me that there are people who are actually smug about their indifference to tragedies, like they're the only ones smart enough to have figured out that people die every day.

Senseless and random violence especially at the cost of children's lives deserves some sort of emotional reaction, and if you can't find it in yourself to exhibit one, stop bragging about it like those who do are stupider for it.

 

[Xanadu84]

Proportionality matters. True, lots more people die every day. There's tragedy that is much greater then a relative handful in Connecticut. Thats important to remember. But where, "Those people" fail is in not realizing that proportionality does not diminish the tragedy. We cannot dismiss the tragedy of Connecticut because something bigger happens. The tragedy in Connecticut is far larger and more profound then any of us could ever even begin to fathom, and 3,000 people dying somewhere else of something else is 300 times bigger then that very thing we could never even hope to begin to fathom. The fact that worse things happen does not make this tragedy easier to bear, it shows that even a tiny blip on the course of human events can be beyond our ability to even begin to comprehend. By that same token, the joy that the millions upon millions who did NOI die that day is infinitely more profound. We are tiny insignificant specks on and endless ocean of both joy and despair. And if the only way to grasp even the tiniest fraction of that sea is to look at the tragedy in Connecticut, so be it. Just shrugging it off and saying, "Shit happens" is nothing but a pathetic attempt to make a gigantic scary world that you could never even begin to comprehend seem manageable. Its the act of a tiny, insignificant soul who is incapable of even trying to grasp his place in the world. It's not that the event is insignificant, it's that people like that can't stand the fact that there is horror and beauty in this world that they are incapable of even beginning to understand, and that scares them. So they try to diminish it to make the world a size they are comfortable with.

 

[LobsterFeng]

Why does anyone care if people care or don't care?

 

[dtgenshiken7]

i know some people with some ponies who can teach you how that works

Don't be dragging us Bronies into this, it has NOTHING to do with us.

OT- Well, it is really dependant on the person, how one reacts to situations like this. The problem I have is people who can't keep their trap shut about this, on both ends. YES, empathy is a good thing to have, but it is not a good thing to be posting sob posts when within a month of said tragedy even the number of dead will become hazy to all but those directly affected.

That said, going out of your way to deliver an unwanted virtual cockslap saying "I DON'T CARE NYAA NYAA" is equally, if not more, infuriating and stupid. No one cares about your supposed maturity, so keep it to yourself.

Really, when I see these issues I just stay WAY out of them, because the people on both ends of the debate tend to infuriate me.

 

[Joccaren]

Yeah, I'm one of the people that doesn't really care that much. I hear about a school shooting in the US and I go "What, another one? Eh, not like I didn't expect it to happen again sooner or later", but I'm don't go on threads and comment about how little I care. If I do go on such threads, I'll generally be polite and express my condolences just for the sake of it, then go on to arguing with whatever side argument is going on, like gun control or what have you, which I find far more interesting than the fact that yet another school shooting has occurred.

 

[Signa]

I tend to like those people because they tell the truth. Hell I found the entire event funny as hell. Mass shooting happens death of 18 kindergardeners, lets watch as everybody fucks up on an epic scale. The media in their race, to be the first finds themselves posting the wrong info, triggering a mob to attack an innocent guy. The mob then moves on to anything the guy was doing, and blamed Mass Effect. This raises some of the most hilarious jokes from the "The kids were sacraficed to take down EA and Bioware" to "The shooter saw Mass Effect 3 ending, and shoots up an elementary school. Bioware still stand with their artistic ending, calling anyone who disagree entitled." So now you have every news media that reported this with the wrong guy face, is about to be sued, and now all of them are going damaged controlled, blaming the police. The guy is getting arrested now, and the twist ends up being it was his little brother that did this. Your face gets' plastered all around the tv and the internet, and your brother turns went on a murder spree, killing your mother. Meanwhile the gun debate has arrived again, because gun control groups think this time, unlike the Amish School shooting, we can win this debate. The question being will the deaths of 18 children be enough?

The answer to that is no, but they'll try. But it doesn't matter the Internet is ablaze, people on tv are getting a say. Bills are being talk about, the President who drone strike the FUCK out of children in the middle east is crying. He is also carefully trying to swing to gun control, but not say I'm not so the dems won't lose seats. The WBC shows up like they always do, to any big event with death, because "WE STILL HERE!!!" mentality. People then range from, not caring, to caring, to pretend to care, to my favorite I'm better than you because I care. Internet shitstorm commence because of it, as someone says something they don't like, stupid, or otherwise. The best part about this is that at the end, no one will care about this event, as it's time would have pass. People would have moved on to the next giant spectacle. Because truly that what this is, nothing more than a giant spectacle for the media to show off. The ratings are through the roof. Websites views are up, and the more sensationalize it is the more views. Truly the dark comedic event of this year, probably the biggest.

Now someone say that they lost their faith in humanity, that always make me smile.

I'm in awe at your post. It's beautiful, dark and twisted, cynical, and 100% true. This tragedy fucking sucks, but everything that revolves around it afterwards is as meaningful as the "Like if you want to end world hunger" posts on Facebook. We pretend it's worth something, and some of us will expereince real feelings about it, but how many here still mourn for the Batman killings? People will move on and forget about it. It's just how we are.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Why does anyone care if people care or don't care?

Show moral superiority.

Or maybe people don't like seeing others reacting to a horrific tragedy in a non-negative way. Some might see it that having no empathy for it is as close to condoning as it is condemning, which is too close in regards to a tragedy that involves the deaths of children. I can see why people would take it as almost a deliberate offense to give a contrarian response like that to something that is universally accepted as terrible and inhuman.

My only problem is when people practically brag about their indifference. It doesn't really have anything to do with superiority.

 

[SoulSalmon]

Eh, I can kind of be one of 'those people' but only if I'm asked or if some huge deal is being made out of it.
I occasionally get sick of the too-common scenario when someone who brought it upon themselves instantly becomes a do-no-wrong saint after they die and it gets plastered over every website I visit for a month. But for the most part I try to just ignore it so as to not start yet another needless shitstorm over an event.

 

[Compatriot Block]

Well, next time someone posts a thread asking what the community can be like on this website, I will make sure to link this thread. Jesus, people.

 

[UnderCoverGuest]

I sympathize with the people who suffered such a tragic loss, and take these events as a reminder that when I find myself in a tough situation, I don't got shit to say because according to these kinds of events, it could be a hell of a lot worse.

 

[Ashley Blalock]

Part of my religion is having empathy for other people if it's around the block or some rural village in China that I've never heard of in my life. It can be a child killed in the crossfire of street violence in Chicago or a parent pulling their lifeless child from the earthquake rumble in Turkey but I feel for those people.

As to the people who don't care I don't hate them I feel sad for them that they lack that empathy for the other members of their species. Okay and I also find it kind of confusing because it seems empathy was something we evolved to make us stronger as a species.

 

[Vault101]

[Show moral superiority.

yep..thats the ONLY reason/sarcasm

Why does anyone care if people care or don't care?

the point I keep bringing up...

its not the "not caring" its being a dick about it

 

[Vault101]

It's different because it's our fault children are dying in the middle east.

would it offend you if I said I didn't give a fuck about the children in the middle east?

 

[manic_depressive13]

It's different because it's our fault children are dying in the middle east.

would it offend you if I said I didn't give a fuck about the children in the middle east?

Sure, but it's your right to say it.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

It's different because it's our fault children are dying in the middle east.

would it offend you if I said I didn't give a fuck about the children in the middle east?

Sure, but it's your right to say it.

Yeah, as is society's right to collectively judge such a person as a poor sap looking to be contrarian for attention's sake. Or if they truly cannot exhibit any empathy at all for any child's death, possibly psychopathic.

 

[Vault101]

Sure, but it's your right to say it.

I guess but it would still make me seem like a real ass...especially if in an inapropriate context

 

[Zakarath]

I don't really care that much about particular events like this one, if only because "20 dead in suicide bomb" is a sadly regular headline you see on page 3 of the paper when it happens in some middle eastern country, but suddenly it's huge news when it happens here in America. Just appears to be a sort of selfish arrogance that seems to proclaim that lives here have more value. And there's just so many of these occurences that if you let them all get their claws into you, you'll get torn apart. As to 'those people', I may not be one with them, but whatever. That's the thing about the human race; it has all types.