When will Call of Duty have to Change?

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TheSteeleStrap

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I wouldn't be surprised if they put out a sequel to Black Ops or something like that. Beyond that, I don't know what they are going to do. They wrapped up the Modern Warfare story, and I don't see where they would go with it. As Yahtzee would say, it's like Mario Galaxy all over again.

captcha: genghis kahn. That's their next idea for all I know.
 

TephlonPrice

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Hmm...

-When someone decides to put actual driveable vehicles (jeeps, tanks, Humvees, etc.) back in game
-When the map design isn't clusterfuck hell spawned from Lucifer's ass crack
-When people realize the series has gone down faster than a 747 piloted by Al-Qaeda airlines & stop buying it
-When Activision stops making money off it (a la Tony Hawk series, Guitar Hero, etc.)
 

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Shawn MacDonald said:
Of course the problem lies not with Call of Duty, but gamers in general. You ***** and complain about wanting something different, but don't shell out the money for it. That means you want other people to buy it so you have more variety. Makes me kind of sick to my stomach. Everything about Call of Duty is fine and if it rakes in the dough, they are going to keep making it. All these games come out with lackluster sales and they are worth buying, nobody is. Like to see a huge budget 2D game that doesn't need to be on Xbox live or Psn to survive, it won't happen because people won't buy it.
Here here. Case in point: The space-flight-sim genre has all but died over the last twelve years. The "X" series is about the only bastion still left, and those games are about as user-friendly as Microsoft Excel. Wing Commander, Freelancer, Freespace, X-Wing, all dead and buried. And as you said in that quoted post, any 2D-game that isn't some low-budget indie title is probably going to have abysmal sales numbers. There's a reason I enjoy Trine so much - It harkens back to my days of playing my Sega Genesis. There's a reason I can never stop gushing about the "Classic" Sonic stages of Sonic Generations. I don't want every game to go back to the 2D style, obviously, but it would sure help shake up the formula a bit.

Everyone complains about the stagnation of the industry, but whenever things like "Alice: Madness Returns" or "The Witcher 2" (yes I do know that TW2 is fairly well-known and received rather positively) or "Star Ruler" or "Sins of a Solar Empire" show up, people dismiss them offhandedly and they turn into cult hits or just fade away and are forgotten. Who thinks that the studio that made "Dark Horizon" and "Tarr Chronicles" will continue trying to make Wing Commander-Freelancer clones? How many people actually know that those two games exist?
 

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TephlonPrice said:
Hmm...

-When someone decides to put actual driveable vehicles (jeeps, tanks, Humvees, etc.) back in game
-When the map design isn't clusterfuck hell spawned from Lucifer's ass crack
-When people realize the series has gone down faster than a 747 piloted by Al-Qaeda airlines & stop buying it
-When Activision stops making money off it (a la Tony Hawk series, Guitar Hero, etc.)
They corned the market to 2 series. With Epic pretty much shutting down any "fun" shooters, there isn't much room for competition anymore
 

Canadamus Prime

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Presumably whenever people stop buying it, which if I were to hazard a guess, will be about the time hell freezes over. ¬_______¬
 

Captain Epic

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It won't. It will unfortunately continue to dominate and crush other, better games that come out. Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure Black Ops 2 is the next one. I think I saw something about it somewhere. So it looks like there will continue to be no change to the formula.
 

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WhyWasThat said:
Thinking about the inevitable impending announcement of whatever half-baked crap Treyarch's working on, will likely sell 8M in a week. When will CoD's dominance end?
When a better IP comes out. And then it's too late. And it's soon Call of whozit now? That's how it's always went.
 

chadachada123

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When people stop buying it.

That said, hearing that MW3's sales are taking a nose dive is music to my ears, because MW3 is the last CoD game that I'll be buying (new) for quite awhile, until they change the formula a bit or make it actually WORTH the price tag. Hopefully other people do the same, because $60 for re-hashed shit is asinine at best.
 

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As per previous comments it will only change when people stop buying it (although I would say this has started already as I only know a few who bought MW3 and they quickly abandoned it).

That being said I dont think it will get time to change much as I believe (Blizzard)Activision will stop any attempts to deviate to much from its formula and just run the series into the ground until its name is worthless.
 

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TheMightyAtrox said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they put out a sequel to Black Ops or something like that. Beyond that, I don't know what they are going to do. They wrapped up the Modern Warfare story, and I don't see where they would go with it. As Yahtzee would say, it's like Mario Galaxy all over again.

captcha: genghis kahn. That's their next idea for all I know.
Its all but confirmed that there will be a black ops 2 and most likely a 3 4 5 and 6 as well since Activision already bought the website domain names and blops2 appeared on amazon frances front page briefly.
 

Vrach

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Never. Look at Counter Strike, still kicking as one of the strongest FPS franchises with the same formula. Hardcore crowds might start preferring it again over CoD due to custom maps, though the sheer numbers will probably be in CoD's favour (although I wouldn't say by much, at least on PCs, CS is still immensely popular as it's very low-rent)

You don't really need much for a good online FPS. It needs to feel right and the maps need to be designed right. Once you've got a formula for both (actually the second is rather 'common knowledge', the first is the challenge and CoD's definitely gotten it very right), it's hard to go wrong. There's not much room for innovation either, not as far as marketability goes.

The only thing you're discussing when you mention CoD is number of copies sold. I don't mean this as an offense to the FPS crowd at all, but innovation is NOT something that's primary to them, polish is (same holds for MMOs to a large extent atm, though MMOs have far more room for improvement and innovation) and the eye candy doesn't hurt either. And it's not that they are "stupid FPS players", it's just that when you're talking competitive FPS, it comes down to the same old formula Counter Strike came up with more than a decade ago - make it fast paced, stick two teams against each other, use a few different modes, give a variety of weapons and make it all as balanced as possible.

So don't look to CoD to change or innovative competition to take over cause it won't happen. If you want a different kind of game, play what suits you. Personally, I like the Battlefield formula, big maps and vehicles add a lot of fun for me. I'd also be open to more dynamic and innovative FPSs, perhaps an MMOFPS/COFPS where players could team up and take challenges on together - something like Borderlands or Left 4 Dead, but a bit larger in scale and more akin to Battlefield ie. with a bunch of vehicles, large maps, perhaps some sort of fortifications, the end goal being dynamic cooperation between the players.
 

krazykidd

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It doesn't have to . What i am doing is , buying the game every 2 years . That way it still feels somewhat fresh to me and i don't get tuckered out as fast . Plus i prefered black ops to MW2 . So i'll stick to the developper i prefer .
 

Haxxle

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I think it is less about when and more about how they'll change. From what I can see, I don't think COD can change into anything else unless you want a Go-Kart spin off *Cough-Cough*
 

Guffe

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When people stop buying the current games they releas, as long as they get in millions on millions making the small changes they only need to they'll keep doing that.