I kinda believe in karma and reincarnation. So If I'm good for the most part, I'll become Master Chief, if I'm bad I'll be Radec and if neutral... hmmm I'd guess I'd become Dante 
I don't think that believing in a better place would sway everyone to become blood thirsty killersEvil Jak said:Wide White said:But doesn't the idea of SOMETHING happening sound better?CosmicCommander said:Death, we fear, because it is unknown, but death also makes us think, Should we live a pios life? Should we be altruistic? We have been told all of our lives that we should, so some great plainof eterna happiness hits us, or we will wake up as another being. But, in my opinion, I say that due to no sensory input, and no brain to provide conciousness, ourselves as we know it, through our eyes, go into complete nothingness, with nothing to see, so there would be no colour, black is a colour, so you wouldn't see black either, you would see no colour. No sound, sso it wouldn't sound like an echoey cave, no smell, no perception, at all.
You wouldn't even know you were dead, your brain wouldn't function, you'd have no memory, no anything. The closest thing I have to compare is a dreamless sleep, that fits most of the criteria, and in the end, jhust sleeping without dreams forever isn't that bad, is it??
Basicly, What I want to say is summarized here:
MarcusD357 said:well i just think that once your dead, your dead. there is no life after dead. anyone who believes that there is life after death is really just trying to kid themselves that it doesnt matter that they have wasted their sad little lives as they can continue to live on in there make believe heaven or Valhalla. but the truth is plain and simple. you only live ONCE. then you are DEAD. that is what dead means. you cease to exist. you cannot continue to live if you do not exist. get over it.
I think the idea of something happening after death makes it too easy to throw away life and the life of others, especially if you are in a position of power like say... the President of America! It would remove fanatics and that can only be a good thing.
Wide White said:I don't think that believing in a better place would sway everyone to become blood thirsty killersEvil Jak said:Wide White said:But doesn't the idea of SOMETHING happening sound better?CosmicCommander said:Death, we fear, because it is unknown, but death also makes us think, Should we live a pios life? Should we be altruistic? We have been told all of our lives that we should, so some great plainof eterna happiness hits us, or we will wake up as another being. But, in my opinion, I say that due to no sensory input, and no brain to provide conciousness, ourselves as we know it, through our eyes, go into complete nothingness, with nothing to see, so there would be no colour, black is a colour, so you wouldn't see black either, you would see no colour. No sound, sso it wouldn't sound like an echoey cave, no smell, no perception, at all.
You wouldn't even know you were dead, your brain wouldn't function, you'd have no memory, no anything. The closest thing I have to compare is a dreamless sleep, that fits most of the criteria, and in the end, jhust sleeping without dreams forever isn't that bad, is it??
Basicly, What I want to say is summarized here:
MarcusD357 said:well i just think that once your dead, your dead. there is no life after dead. anyone who believes that there is life after death is really just trying to kid themselves that it doesnt matter that they have wasted their sad little lives as they can continue to live on in there make believe heaven or Valhalla. but the truth is plain and simple. you only live ONCE. then you are DEAD. that is what dead means. you cease to exist. you cannot continue to live if you do not exist. get over it.
I think the idea of something happening after death makes it too easy to throw away life and the life of others, especially if you are in a position of power like say... the President of America! It would remove fanatics and that can only be a good thing.
heh. debatable proof, since some of these people in fact reported very strange things indeed...ElephantGuts said:Nowhere. A stop to bloodflow to the brain means a cease to consciousness. Same as sleeping without dreams, or being knocked out. Nothing. Forever. Depressing, I know. But true. As far as I believe anyway.
Might I remind you that people have been dead for extended periods of time before being resuscitated. What did they report? Nothing. Proof.
Yeah, I don't think it's solid proof either. Considering all the freaky things that could be happening in the brain upon death, it's hard to know just what it all means, if anything.CrystalShadow said:heh. debatable proof, since some of these people in fact reported very strange things indeed...ElephantGuts said:Nowhere. A stop to bloodflow to the brain means a cease to consciousness. Same as sleeping without dreams, or being knocked out. Nothing. Forever. Depressing, I know. But true. As far as I believe anyway.
Might I remind you that people have been dead for extended periods of time before being resuscitated. What did they report? Nothing. Proof.
But... That's another story.
I never said people morals were based on faith, and maybe if you don't mean everyone you should say that next time.Evil Jak said:Wide White said:I don't think that believing in a better place would sway everyone to become blood thirsty killersEvil Jak said:Wide White said:But doesn't the idea of SOMETHING happening sound better?CosmicCommander said:Death, we fear, because it is unknown, but death also makes us think, Should we live a pios life? Should we be altruistic? We have been told all of our lives that we should, so some great plainof eterna happiness hits us, or we will wake up as another being. But, in my opinion, I say that due to no sensory input, and no brain to provide conciousness, ourselves as we know it, through our eyes, go into complete nothingness, with nothing to see, so there would be no colour, black is a colour, so you wouldn't see black either, you would see no colour. No sound, sso it wouldn't sound like an echoey cave, no smell, no perception, at all.
You wouldn't even know you were dead, your brain wouldn't function, you'd have no memory, no anything. The closest thing I have to compare is a dreamless sleep, that fits most of the criteria, and in the end, jhust sleeping without dreams forever isn't that bad, is it??
Basicly, What I want to say is summarized here:
MarcusD357 said:well i just think that once your dead, your dead. there is no life after dead. anyone who believes that there is life after death is really just trying to kid themselves that it doesnt matter that they have wasted their sad little lives as they can continue to live on in there make believe heaven or Valhalla. but the truth is plain and simple. you only live ONCE. then you are DEAD. that is what dead means. you cease to exist. you cannot continue to live if you do not exist. get over it.
I think the idea of something happening after death makes it too easy to throw away life and the life of others, especially if you are in a position of power like say... the President of America! It would remove fanatics and that can only be a good thing.
You are right, EVERYONE wouldnt become blood thirsty killers because most people have things called morals that are not based on their faith. But of course I never said that everyone would, did I. Just look at the evidence, religious extremists do things like suicide bombing and George W. Bush did things like throw wave after wave of American teenagers into the firing line in Iraq (AKA that illegal war that outaged everyone).
i know where im going when i die....in a coffin *drum roll*Kahoony117 said:Not to push my current state of depression onto anyone else.
But i've been having misconceptions about death recently.
What do all you educated members of the Escapist think happens when one "moves on"?
Please don't use this thread as some kind of vessel to push religious views onto others.
Just except everyone else's opinions.
And I never said that you said that they were, I said that the people who wouldnt become blood thirsty killers are the ones who have morals that arent based on faith. Can you look at the sentence you are refering to and see where "Oh and I am not refering to everyone here" would have come into my mind! And why should I say everyone next time? Why cant I be vague like most belief systems?Wide White said:I never said people morals were based on faith, and maybe if you don't mean everyone you should say that next time.Evil Jak said:Wide White said:I don't think that believing in a better place would sway everyone to become blood thirsty killersEvil Jak said:Wide White said:But doesn't the idea of SOMETHING happening sound better?CosmicCommander said:Death, we fear, because it is unknown, but death also makes us think, Should we live a pios life? Should we be altruistic? We have been told all of our lives that we should, so some great plainof eterna happiness hits us, or we will wake up as another being. But, in my opinion, I say that due to no sensory input, and no brain to provide conciousness, ourselves as we know it, through our eyes, go into complete nothingness, with nothing to see, so there would be no colour, black is a colour, so you wouldn't see black either, you would see no colour. No sound, sso it wouldn't sound like an echoey cave, no smell, no perception, at all.
You wouldn't even know you were dead, your brain wouldn't function, you'd have no memory, no anything. The closest thing I have to compare is a dreamless sleep, that fits most of the criteria, and in the end, jhust sleeping without dreams forever isn't that bad, is it??
Basicly, What I want to say is summarized here:
MarcusD357 said:well i just think that once your dead, your dead. there is no life after dead. anyone who believes that there is life after death is really just trying to kid themselves that it doesnt matter that they have wasted their sad little lives as they can continue to live on in there make believe heaven or Valhalla. but the truth is plain and simple. you only live ONCE. then you are DEAD. that is what dead means. you cease to exist. you cannot continue to live if you do not exist. get over it.
I think the idea of something happening after death makes it too easy to throw away life and the life of others, especially if you are in a position of power like say... the President of America! It would remove fanatics and that can only be a good thing.
You are right, EVERYONE wouldnt become blood thirsty killers because most people have things called morals that are not based on their faith. But of course I never said that everyone would, did I. Just look at the evidence, religious extremists do things like suicide bombing and George W. Bush did things like throw wave after wave of American teenagers into the firing line in Iraq (AKA that illegal war that outaged everyone).