Where should I start with the Punisher Comics

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Ronald Nand

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I was thinking of reading some Punisher comics since I thought I'd enjoy them given that Batman's 'no kill' rule annoys me given how many people his villians kill. I've never read western comics, I've read a couple of manga but thats it.

So where should I start reading, and which series of comics is good?

Also what kind of tone is it, is it like an action movie or is it dark like Watchmen or something?
 

Sulphur Lantern

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Circle of Blood: The debut Punisher series of 1986, by Steve Grant and Mike Zeck is all espionage and action.

Punisher War Journal: By Mike Baron Is full action, great art and even some humor being it grim but still fun.

Punisher MAX: Is very dark, lots and lots of violence.

Anything Garth Ennis, is recommended.

There are some good one-shots as well. Currently there is a Marvel Now reboot which would also be a good starting point.
 

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Ronald Nand said:
I was thinking of reading some Punisher comics since I thought I'd enjoy them given that Batman's 'no kill' rule annoys me given how many people his villians kill. I've never read western comics, I've read a couple of manga but thats it.

So where should I start reading, and which series of comics is good?

Also what kind of tone is it, is it like an action movie or is it dark like Watchmen or something?
I have to suggest the MAX line of Punisher (Punisher MAX) comics if you want something closer to Watchmen in tone and content (dark with bloody violence). You can find most of the hardcover trade books (24 issues/chapters each) on Amazon.com for about twenty bucks each.
 

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I have no idea if it's actually any good or not, but they did just reboot the Punisher with a new series. I think they're only like 3 or 4 issues in, if that.

Trial of the Punisher was a two part limited series they did recently, you might be able to track down both of those at your local comic book shop.

Also if you can find them, try looking into the Frankencastle arc...because it's kinda cool.
 

Ronald Nand

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Does it matter if I start with a comic released after the original 1986 comics, will I be confused if I read the MAX series first or do I only need to know the Punisher's origin story to understand.
 

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Ronald Nand said:
Does it matter if I start with a comic released after the original 1986 comics, will I be confused if I read the MAX series first or do I only need to know the Punisher's origin story to understand.
A good thing with Punisher comics is Frank Castles origin is really never changed there might be a few variations about his background or history but they usually give a quick recap on it. As long as you start at the first issue of a story you should really have no problem.
 

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Ronald Nand said:
Does it matter if I start with a comic released after the original 1986 comics, will I be confused if I read the MAX series first or do I only need to know the Punisher's origin story to understand.
As long as you know Frank's basic history (was a Marine, family was killed in the cross-fire of a mob hit, now slaughters criminals) you should be fine with any Punisher comic run.
MAX even gives you a brief introduction to Frank and why he does what he does. Though I will warn you that the MAX line is pretty dark and violent, on par with Watchmen and Game of Thrones when it comes to violence and tone.
 

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Just read them in any order. Pretty much none of his stories different except for who the target is. The only ones which stand out I can remember are Space Punisher, that time he turned into Frankenstein, and that time he killed the whole marvel universe.
 

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A really good story is "Punisher: Welcome Back, Frank." Written by Garth Ennis, drawn by Steve Dillon. The complete edition is about 280 pages, make sure you get that one. It was the first Punisher story I read in my entire life and I enjoyed it just fine; trust me when I say that it's a good series for beginners because it requires no previous knowledge of the Punisher and the writing is top-notch.
 

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Ronald Nand said:
Also what kind of tone is it, is it like an action movie or is it dark like Watchmen or something?
It varies. Frank's been around for a few decades, and he was insanely popular in the early nineties, and had three series running concurrently. Garth Ennis' stuff is usually a lot darker than other writers, particularly the MAX stuff.

Well, my recommendations would be based on what you want in an anti-hero. A lot of fans rank Garth Ennis' stuff highly, but there are a number of Punny fans who feel that he took away or downplayed a lot of Frank's more sympathetic traits, whereas his earlier writers were usually more nuanced. Plus, it depends on whether you just want trade paper back collections, or whether you're willing to try to find his individual issues. I know his essential trades collect a lot of his early stuff, but I can't recall where they are now.

Anyway, I would recommend Welcome Back Frank. It boils down the Punisher to his essential traits, and is highly entertaining. I feel that Garth Ennis' later stuff became kind of repetitive, but improved when he started writing the MAX storylines. Jason Aaron's MAX run, consisting of Kingpin, Bullseye, Frank and Homeless is a fantastic storyline that perfectly caps off the MAX series, but I'd recommend saving that until you've read the rest of Ennis' stuff.

A lot of Mike Baron and Carl Potts' work is good, and they were the two who started running his first regular ongoing and the War Journal series, respectively. Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning were also a pretty good team, so I'd recommend trying to find any of their storylines. Chuck Dixon's work is full of action, and his first War Zone storyline is great, and availble in trade paper back. I'd recommend the "POV" and "Ghosts of Innocents" minseries, if you can find them. Suicide Run was a pretty good storyline and the first crossover between his various series, but it deals with several recurring characters, so you might want to hold off on that.

Ronald Nand said:
Does it matter if I start with a comic released after the original 1986 comics, will I be confused if I read the MAX series first or do I only need to know the Punisher's origin story to understand.
In his heyday, Frank actually did have a number of recurring characters. When Garth Ennis brought him back, the slate was pretty much wiped clean, and a lot of plot threads and characters haven't been seen in ages. Actually, most of the recurring characters usually only appeared in stories written by the people who created them in the first place.
 

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It's like Movie Bob said, when it comes to comic series just start wherever. You may not understand 100% of whats going on story wise, but for 90% of comics it won't matter, you will get filled in early on or just figure it out by the 20th page based on the tone and conversations.

Unless it happens to be a special issue, like the ones Zontar mentioned, but they are not common.