Where's all the SJWs at?

[R0guy]

The only one that proves anything is that she sent more than 4 tweets and I have no idea if all those tweets are about what you claim they are.

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439565723996655616

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

^Source links for a couple of the tweets from the first image. Nevermind the other Tweets that prove beyond doubt that she had a motive for doing it.

Waiting to see where you move the goal post next. Just out of curiosity, what do you gain by being so dishonest?

 

[Something Amyss]

Is this an illusion spell or one of those fancy pants Conjuration spells?

Actually, it's just my rogue cunning and a lot of points dumped in bluff and perform.

All dragons are lesbians.
Trust me, I'm a certified dragon expert.

Or a lesbian.
Same thing.

Then logically, all lesbians are dragons. This has made my world far more awesome.

But no, the perception of both do exist. There are indeed angry white males out there and I do stand by that there are militant SJW out there. Or at the very least, the perception.

The point being that you are validating one while the suggestion that another made you feel so bad you interpreted it as a personal attack.

So think about how you just reacted, and think about how you're doing the same to people who get branded as SJWs, even if you don't think you're personally applying the label. The same way I didn't say you were an angry white virgin. Realise you're doing the same thing you object to, over and over.

Now ask yourself: are you helping, or hurting?

This continues because both sides insist the other "side" started it, so it's okay for them to do it to the other side, and nothing is learned. It's easy to lash out with an "us and them" mentality, but it accomplishes nothing.

 

[CymbaIine]

The only one that proves anything is that she sent more than 4 tweets and I have no idea if all those tweets are about what you claim they are.

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439565723996655616

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

^Source links for a couple of the tweets from the first image. Nevermind the other Tweets that prove beyond doubt that she had a motive for doing it.

Waiting to see where you move the goal post next. Just out of curiosity, what do you gain by being so dishonest?

You posted some stuff as if it were evidence of something. It wasn't. This still isn't evidence.

I am taking these shots at face value, I believe they are real insomuch as they are not altered screen shots. I just don't know what they aim to prove. That Zoe Quinn had a problem with some competition? Okay, so what? Oh right somebody else is claiming that she wielding her "influence" to shut them down and refused to engage despite them trying. Show me proof of that stuff, THAT'S the stuff that needs evidence because that's the part that matters.

I am not being dishonest, you may well have this proof and be forgetting that everybody in internet land isn't following this with as much vigour as you are.

 

[SeanSeanston]

SJW is a label applied to others, not something people self identify with.

Exactly... I'm pretty sure someone is a social justice warrior by being an extremist caricature who thinks they're doing things to help the world and won't shut up about it, but in reality just complain about things to feel better and inflate their sense of unwarranted self importance.

If someone was actually improving the world, they wouldn't be an SJW. Unless they happened to be by coincidence... but SJW's tend to be malicious parasites so that's an unlikely combination since it involves both work and caring, which leaves less time for complaints and drawing attention for attention's sake.

(...not to mention doxxing yourself and using it to manipulate ignorant people's sympathy.)

e.g. Martin Luther King was not a Social Justice Warrior, because among other things:
A. He actually attempted constructive things he thought would help humanity.
B. He didn't complain or draw gratuitous attention nearly enough to be an SJW.
C. He was in actual physical danger because of the things he decided to do to try to change society (this is an important one; if Anita Sarkeesian was MLK, she probably would have mailed a bullet to herself or something for instance).

(Or actually, I'm just imagining Sarkeesian as MLK: she distributes a photo of a gunshot wound, with what is clearly the gun used in the attack visible in the background, mere seconds after being shot ;D)

 

[Caostotale]

To be a bit more serious though, I'd hesitate to call the Escapist PRO-GG too. They gave the pro side a home for discussion, but by Tito's own admissions he's not in support of this or the slander they spread one bit. And based on the punishments I've seen handed out, I'd say a lot of the mods probably aren't on the pro-side either.

Indeed, and the assumption that the 'general community' here is 'pro-Gamergate' is a bit presumptuous. That one poll shows that, of the people who could be arsed to vote at all, only 37.3% of them consider the GG cause 'a solid case about journalistic ethics' while the remaining people see it as something that either lacks a solid foundation, bears a solid foundation that is decidedly different from the one GG is professing, or is completely incapable of ever having a solid foundation. At the very least, I think it could only be safe to assume that the Escapist community sees the movement as very murky and that GG supporters using this graphic as propaganda to attract more of their ranks to these forums.

 

[R0guy]

Oh for god's sake, man.

I am taking these shots at face value, I believe they are real insomuch as they are not altered screen shots.

Where does *belief* even come into this (for the Tweets specifically), is this her Twitter account? Yes or no?

I just don't know what they aim to prove. That Zoe Quinn had a problem with some competition? Okay, so what? Oh right somebody else is claiming that she wielding her "influence" to shut them down and refused to engage despite them trying.

Dude what someone else?????!!!!!

This is her Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

"Lol we blew up the site and it's returning "over quota" errors HOW FUCKING APPROPRIATE"

"Lol we blew up the site and it's returning "over quota" errors"

"Lol we blew up the site"

"WE"

 

[CymbaIine]

Oh for god's sake, man.

I am taking these shots at face value, I believe they are real insomuch as they are not altered screen shots.

Where does *belief* even come into this (for the Tweets specifically), is this her Twitter account? Yes or no?

I just don't know what they aim to prove. That Zoe Quinn had a problem with some competition? Okay, so what? Oh right somebody else is claiming that she wielding her "influence" to shut them down and refused to engage despite them trying.

Dude what someone else?????!!!!!

This is her Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

"Lol we blew up the site and it's returning "over quota" errors HOW FUCKING APPROPRIATE"

"Lol we blew up the site and it's returning "over quota" errors"

"Lol we blew up the site"

"WE"

What is that proving? I am actually asking, not being sarcastic or arsey or anything. I am genuinely confused. No need for sarcasm I am admitting I am confused. Tell me in simple terms.

 

[R0guy]

What is that proving? I am actually asking, not being sarcastic or arsey or anything. I am genuinely confused. No need for sarcasm I am admitting I am confused. Tell me in simple terms.

I was responding to someone claiming that Zoe Quinn's shenanigans against The Fine Young Capitalist women's game jam that donates all (or some, can't remember) profits to colon cancer research wern't "debunked" or "unsupported".

Image 1: She self admits to having a hand in DDOSing the campaign website and other tweets reveal motive.

Image 2: TFYC indiegogo page was hacked by her supporters.

Image 3: The organiser explaining what happened and how he lost advertisers because of Zoe's false allegations that TFYC was anti-LGBT. Among other things.


RebelGameJam link: Also motive. She has a competing women's game jam that has no start date, no details and all funds are sent into her private paypal account.

 

[Caostotale]

This is truth. We all know Skyrim would be nothing without Dragons in it. In fact next game it should be nothing but dragons. I want the next phase of videogames to be dragons. Dragons everywhere. That will be a glorious day. Perhaps the avian reptilian comeback will bring back our dragon Lord Spyro.

Agreed on everything about dragons. I'm still hoping for somebody to reissue the vertical shoot-em-up Dragon Blaze, where you fly a dragon around fighting mechanical turtles, massive floating skulls, enormous insects, seven billion fast moving purple projectiles, and all sorts of other nuisances. Now that would be a gaming cause worth fighting for...

http://gamesdbase.com/game/arcade/dragon-blaze.aspx

 

[grassgremlin]

Call me a Social Justice Styker.
I rather dual wield guns gun kata style.

Pew, Pew.

No really, I'll lay my two sense
I want diversity in games especially in ones where you make your own character cause I'm sick of picking male and then playing the broad shouldered power fantasy type who only has like three body types, all which are lame while the girls get to be sexy and such.

Not fair man, some of us like to crossdress and play someone trans or gay. Just saying, I draw lots of fabulous boys and I want to play a fab boy . . . instead I must play female and pretend she's male, hoping they have a slider for a flat chest.

Personal preference sure, but still, it is kind of annoying. I only favor girls in fighters cause I like to play feminine, but something makes me giggly if a feminine character is male.

Spoiler

It sucks this is a minority in a fighter.
Also this.

Spoiler

Yeah, I like to play strong women who aren't wearing dental floss too. Just give me any game where the default isn't just some variation on typical white dude. I'd likely play more fps if I wasn't always some grizzled white dude, just saying.

My 50 cents.

 

[KokujinTensai]

No one here is a social justice warrior. All I see are advocates for social justice. Not an extremist to be found.

 

[mecegirl]

The SJWs are having a nice tea party with the libtards and the contards, the wingnuts and the idiotarians, the bedwetters and the Bushistas, the freepers and the moonbats, the Randroids and the reactionaries, the Rethuglicans and the Pajamahadeen.

- image snip -

The inimitable Eric Cartman is of course presiding. Scones will be served.

And here I was, thinking they'd all hang out on a satellite.
No wait, that's the SJL, not the SJW...

http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a49b606_700b_v1.jpg

Mea culpa.

You know what I've always wondered about this comic. If the Flash is supposed to be Barry or Wally. Because Barry's mom was killed and his father was convicted of that murder when he was a kid. And at one point it was retconned in that Wally's parents abusive.

 

[Impulse725]

What is that proving? I am actually asking, not being sarcastic or arsey or anything. I am genuinely confused. No need for sarcasm I am admitting I am confused. Tell me in simple terms.

I was responding to someone claiming that Zoe Quinn's shenanigans against The Fine Young Capitalist women's game jam that donates all (or some, can't remember) profits to colon cancer research wern't "debunked" or "unsupported".

Image 1: She self admits to having a hand in DDOSing the campaign website and other tweets reveal motive.

Image 2: TFYC indiegogo page was hacked by her supporters.

Image 3: The organiser explaining what happened and how he lost advertisers because of Zoe's false allegations that TFYC was anti-LGBT. Among other things.


RebelGameJam link: Also motive. She has a competing women's game jam that has no start date, no details and all funds are sent into her private paypal account.

Quinn likes to make a lot of sarcastic tweets. I scrolled down her feed as far as I felt like it and there was no shortage of "Omg I'm totes the evil internet overlord" and many varieties on "yes, I'm doing the thing you're accusing me of, random harrasser, you are so smart". You should probably stop looking to her twitter for confessionals.

It frankly looks like she's baiting you guys into breathlessly reposting these and making you look silly. This is not impressive evidence unless you already went in believing.

 

[CymbaIine]

Image 1: She self admits to having a hand in DDOSing the campaign website and other tweets reveal motive.

Image 2: TFYC indiegogo page was hacked by her supporters.

Image 3: The organiser explaining what happened and how he lost advertisers because of Zoe's false allegations that TFYC was anti-LGBT. Among other things.


RebelGameJam link: Also motive. She has a competing women's game jam that has no start date, no details and all funds are sent into her private paypal account.

Thanks. I still don't think that proves she personally had anything to do with it (beyond commentating) but I can't see why an unbiased reporting of fact would be a problem for wikipedia as it does seem to have something to do with the quagmire that is "gamergate".

 

[Something Amyss]

A. He actually attempted constructive things he thought would help humanity.

Apparently, ALL SJWs think they're helping. Or has the stereotype changed.

B. He didn't complain or draw gratuitous attention nearly enough to be an SJW.

Except, you know, when he was in jail and stuff. I also wouldn't be shocked if Martin would have taken to social media were it available at the time. Well, available to coloured people, because it'd probably be whites only.

Of course, the irony is, even blacks were tired of MLK before he was shot. We might well have seen the same complaints. I say "might" because there's no way to speak with 100% certainty.

C. He was in actual physical danger because of the things he decided to do to try to change society (this is an important one; if Anita Sarkeesian was MLK, she probably would have mailed a bullet to herself or something for instance).

And we wrap up specious stereotypes and incorrect history with baseless accusations with no good faith basis. Wonder if that one even needs to be addressed.

 

[C. Cain]

And at one point it was retconned in that Wally's parents abusive.

Suddenly the 'kiss your mother' line becomes a lot more disturbing. And it's extremely creepy for both Barry and Wally... for different but similar reasons.

 

[Something Amyss]

Quinn likes to make a lot of sarcastic tweets. I scrolled down her feed as far as I felt like it and there was no shortage of "Omg I'm totes the evil internet overlord" and many varieties on "yes, I'm doing the thing you're accusing me of, random harrasser, you are so smart". You should probably stop looking to her twitter for confessionals.

It frankly looks like she's baiting you guys into breathlessly reposting these and making you look silly. This is not impressive evidence unless you already went in believing.

That's her problem, then. She doesn't understand that the people getting outraged have no sense of humour. Conspiracy theorists never do.

Hmmm...I wonder if the irony of "TAKE A JOKE, GUYS" would be lost.

 

[R0guy]

It frankly looks like she's baiting you guys into breathlessly reposting these and making you look silly. This is not impressive evidence unless you already went in believing.

That's not too bad of a point there and she certainly does bait people, alot.

However, I ask that you look at the date of the tweet: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

16:33 - 28th of Febuary 2014

Which begs the question that *if* this was just baiting, who was it for? It certainly wasnt #GG which sparked off in August 2014, right?

Also this: http://i.imgur.com/l0x0kL1.png was a message she later sent (Only after #GG started, so only 6 months later...) to the TFYC organiser indirectly implying that one of her close friends (Maya Kramer aka @Legobutts, seen in the tweets) was responsible for the DOX (not to be confused with the DDOS. Because there was a DDOS, a Dox AND a Hack...)

I can't see why an unbiased reporting of fact would be a problem for wikipedia as it does seem to have something to do with the quagmire that is "gamergate".

Well somehow it apparently is. At least on the #gamergate wikipedia article (and subsequent talk section), Kotaku is a reputable source and Al Jazeera isn't. I don't get it. Welcome to upside-down-land.

 

[CymbaIine]

It frankly looks like she's baiting you guys into breathlessly reposting these and making you look silly. This is not impressive evidence unless you already went in believing.

That's not too bad of a point there and she certainly does bait people, alot.

However, I ask that you look at the date of the tweet: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/439558962908643328

16:33 - 28th of Febuary 2014

Which begs the question that *if* this was just baiting, who was it for? It certainly wasnt #GG which sparked off in August 2014, right?

Also this: http://i.imgur.com/l0x0kL1.png was a message she later sent (Only after #GG started, so only 6 months later...) to the TFYC organiser indirectly implying that one of her close friends (Maya Kramer aka @Legobutts, seen in the tweets) was responsible for the DOX (not to be confused with the DDOS. Because there was a DDOS, a Dox AND a Hack...)

I can't see why an unbiased reporting of fact would be a problem for wikipedia as it does seem to have something to do with the quagmire that is "gamergate".

Well somehow it apparently is. At least on the #gamergate wikipedia article (and subsequent talk section), Kotaku is a reputable source and Al Jazeera isn't. I don't get it. Welcome to upside-down-land.

Wait if it happened in Febuary then I kinda agree with Wikipedia. It's irrelevant.

 

[R0guy]

Wait if it happened in Febuary then I kinda agree with Wikipedia. It's irrelevant.

*sigh* How so? This affair, including the backlash against her baseless allegations against suicidal depressives (December 2013) only came to light after #GG started. Considering that it then ties to Archon's apology a couple of weeks ago, I find that it's still very relevant to the situation.