Where's all the SJWs at?

[Impulse725]

I was suggesting no one is taking Zoe's tweet seriously, and eye rolling at the idea she did it.

So 44 tweets get's trumped by speculation that "that's not the only fight on the internet she's had, I hear." Where she self admits to the DDOS, a *private* convo (not Twitter) with the organiser indirectly implicating one of her closest friends (Maya aka @Legobutts), and a screenshot of the recorded Hacked TFYC Indiegogo page (also not Twitter) starting with the line "We think it is abhorrent what you are doing to Zoe Quinn...".


So tell me, who was "fighting" her back then? Who? How come none of those 44 tweets have any "adversaries" replying to them (Aside from those posted in August)? Are you going to look for them and prove me wrong? Of course you won't, challenging preconceptions is really hard, I know.

I strongly suspect you didn't read my series of posts. Let me sum it up. No one is going to confess to wrongdoing on twitter. People use social media to ***** to their friends and write sarcastic comments. Quinn is sarcastic about everything.

Random tweets are just not compelling. When it's something like that guy who said gamergate was worse than ISIS, yes, that pretty much stands on it's own. Someone saying I totes blew up the servers is not a slam dunk. It mostly makes you look silly for thinking if you comb public statements enough, you'll find a confession. Real people do not operate like batman villains.

 

[zen5887]

Skipping 6 pages of undoubtedly civil and balanced discussion, so bare with me if I missed something.

I'm definitely 100% a big fan of social justice (in fact I'm procrastinating writing an essay about social justice for uni) and I'm super into games. There are definitely a boat load of problems with representation in gaming and because I enjoy games so much is why it bugs me so much. I want videogaming to be a really big deal and I don't think that will happen in their current state.

I feel like the reaction against social justice in the gaming community comes from a big ol misunderstanding and a chunk of gamers not taking criticism very well.

I don't agree with absolutely everything other proponents of social justice say, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who does. Feminists aren't the one collective hive-mind it seems like a lot of people here are treating us like.

 

[R0guy]

Random tweets are just not compelling. When it's something like that guy who said gamergate was worse than ISIS, yes, that pretty much stands on it's own.

Devil's advocate mode activated:

Where's the proof that he was being serious? Devin Faranci says sarcastic stuff all the time. Surely you don't believe that a gamejourno would actually be crazy enough to publicly insult his own audience and really mean it. That random tweet isn't a slam dunk. Real people don't act like penny arcade comic strips, showhosts from the Onion news network or Achmed the dead terrorist (Silence! I kill you!).

/deactivated.

In all seriousness, there's nothing "Batman villainish" about sicking Twitter followers on people you don't like. Or by using contacts in the press to sick even more people on a website for suicidal depressives (Wizardchan).

 

[Impulse725]

And here I thought I was being nice mentioning and conceding a legitimate complaint. I can't imagine why review outfits came to the conclusion they should just wait this out.

I meant for the Batman villain bit to refer to the idea that people seem to expect to find incriminating confessions in public venues in the modern age, not the easy of setting your knights on Thomas Moore.

I don't expect or have interest in convincing you. I find these tweet photobombs unpersuasive and was mentioning why. If my chat logs were released, no doubt there'd be a 4chan photo mockup about how I confess to abusing animals. (I seldom answer my wife's inquiries into how the dogs are doing seriously). I strongly suspect I'm not the only one to dismiss this as grasping at straws, as the official memo is that gamergate's not about Quinn.

 

[Vault101]

Wait a sec, how the hell did Bioware get in there?

Because there's gay relationships in some of their games, which is truly a sign of the SJW infiltration in cooperation with the reverse vampires and the saucer people in order to suppress proud hetero male awesomeness and also make us think we're rapists if we DON'T participate in these awful options.

I belive its because someone from Bioware basically wrote a thing saying "my "artistic integrity/freedom" is PERFECTLY FINE THANKS" basically calling bullshit on people who use the "artistic freedom" as a way to ridicule and silence discussion

a sentiment I'm sure you can see I more or less agree with

its funny this "anti-GG vs pro-GG" thing to me seems less about opposition of what "GG" is "supposed to be" but more like "they aren't what they say they are"

 

[angryscotsman93]

No clue honestly, I know Tumblr has a lot of the actual social justice extremists knocking around somewhere, you usually have to look up the right tags though, out of all the blogs I follow, I never see them, but they are there, Twitter has a lot of extremists of all stripes, but I don't think either of those are the types of social justice you're looking for.

As for gaming specifically, this site is honestly one of the better ones I've found for people that talk on the forums about social justice topics, although it has its fair share of opponents and flame baity bullshit, especially with being one of the current hosts of discussion for the gamergate movement, but I find that more entertaining than an ideological echo chamber. I do hear that Rock,Paper,Shotgun, and Polygon have tons of "SJWs" but I don't visit very often so I don't know if that's true or exagerration on the part of their opponents.

So yeah, those two would probably be your best bet, I suppose it depends on what kind of "SJW" you are looking for.

If you want to find a "Social Justice Warrior" on Polygon, read the review on Tropico 5, where the guy said the gameplay was fun and intuitive, but gave it a 6.5 out of 10 because being a dictator made him "feel like a bully."

Honestly, I think that's more his shortcoming than the game's- I always go out of my way to play as a truly democratic Presidente, and I do my utmost to look out for the people of my country. If you're playing that game as a dictator and getting depressed because of it, it's your own damn fault.

 

[Don Incognito]

The NSA? Excuse me? The NSA?

What exactly is it that you think the NSA does?

 

[Don Incognito]

The NSA? Excuse me? The NSA?

What exactly is it that you think the NSA does?

goes after people using hackings, doxxings, ddosing and blackmail as a casual tool in an publicly visible orchestrated campaign of relational aggression.

amongst other things.

Yeah, that's... not even remotely what the NSA does.

 

[Don Incognito]

The NSA? Excuse me? The NSA?

What exactly is it that you think the NSA does?

goes after people using hackings, doxxings, ddosing and blackmail as a casual tool in an publicly visible orchestrated campaign of relational aggression.

amongst other things.

Yeah, that's... not even remotely what the NSA does.

yes, im sure they have nothing to do with the tackling "cyber crime"...absolutely nothing...it's so very hard for the US government to track these kinds of things nowadays...

....nope. Still wrong. This is not anywhere near the NSA's jurisdiction, unless you think Zoe Quinn is a deep-cover ISIL agent.

 

[Don Incognito]

It's awful cute you think the NSA and FBI will give two warm shits about all this, but at least you've come to realize part of what the NSA does and does not do.