That much is true, I suppose. But popular science fiction themes are still present in other titles since VII. Even X had the theme of whether technological advancement was a good thing or a bad thing (destruction of Zanarkand, conflict in Yevon's teachings) and science vs. religion. XII had a very political arms race in finding the various magicites, including what the horror of unleashing such weapons could do (Nabudis, explosion of the Leviathan, corruption of political officials with power, etc). VIII had a relatively coherent theme of war and training children for it for part of the game before they threw that interesting bit out the window in favor of time manipulation and sorceress possessions. Not to mention the whole continent of Esthar and space travel.valleyshrew said:
Activision releases a Call of Duty title every two years. EA releases a sports game every year. Say what you want about the quality of the series, but it actually does change much more than games published by Activision and EA, and they actually put effort into their games.RollForInitiative said:
Even though they both have "RPG" in the name, WRPGs and JRPGs are very very different. You're lobbying to shift Final Fantasy towards WRPG, which I really disagree with. JRPGs have always been about telling a specific storyline with specific characters, using conversation trees and the like would kill that. J"RPG" is just a label, it doesn't necessarily require a varying plot, and there's no reason to assume it should. Same with the music, this isn't Fallout 3 nor should it be anything like it. Music is used in JRPGs to portray a particular feeling or tie certain aspects together, it's not just background noise at all. Imagine if you're trudging through some dreary ruins after a depressing plot revelation and the "radio" starts playing something uplifting. It works in Fallout, not in Final Fantasy. And writing in a sci-fi/realistic/modern isn't something that's become standardized, it's a stylistic decision. The influx of sci-fi/realistic/modern settings is a trend, not standardization.valleyshrew said:
You must know what they mean by that, it's in the aesthetics. Unless you obsessively adhere to dictionary definitions, you'll understand that FFXIII adopted more more sci-fi-esque overtones. I, for one, would be all for a Final Fantasy with fantasy elements similar to FFIX.valleyshrew said:
A lot of this seems to be an inability to understand the strengths of JRPGs versus those of WRPGs. I didn't like the XII system much. I appreciated how in the other Final Fantasys characters would each have their own weapon because it makes each character that much more unique to have a style specific only to them. How is appreciating specifically crafted characters "ignorance"? Yes the XII system allowed more flexibility, but some characters bored the hell out of me because their roles didn't always compliment the story, and all that flexibility can turn your party into a homogeneous blob. It isn't necessarily better to completely customize your party. Gameplay elements are meticulously crafted because it allows for better balance and flow within the game world. None of this is ignorance. I totally understand how WRPGs do customization, I get FFXII's flexibility, but I don't like either system as much as having carefully designed characters tailored towards roles that I would've created on my own anyway. Your reasons for hating the FF fan base should not be because of any supposed ignorance, it's because they have a different taste than you seem to. I hate petty name-calling and the like, but in this case the ignorance here comes from a hatred that you don't appear to fully understand.valleyshrew said:
... I don't know what's funnier, that statement or the fact that Final Fantasy has been doing Space Castles for years.CheckD3 said:
Ah, thankyou oh so much, personally, i'd like to see the franchise take a look at it's roots, and take a look at where it is, and then move forward, i dont want to see them go right back to 7's combat system nor do i want to see more of the 12 style of play, we need to move forward now. Oh, and usually i'd talk about the quote, but i agree with it so much, there's not much more left to say. Apart from this,Sniper Team 4 said:
