Shipping doesn't really grind my gears, I find it more humorous than rage-inducing. On that note:
Pictured above is a shipping chart for My Little Pony: Friendship is magic. A larger version can be found here [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/108/9/e/ship_png_by_ciscoql-d4wif6p.png].
Some points of interest:
There are several pairings of characters who have never had speaking lines.
Every main character has been paired with themselves at least once.
Multiple characters have been paired with pets.
Mutliple characters have been paired with inanimate objects.
Multiple inanimate objects have been paired with other inanimate objects.
Someone has been paired with Daring Doo. Daring Doo is a fictional character.
Someone has been paired with Twist. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just icky to think about.
Like I said, it doesn't make me mad. I just find it funny.
Seeing as I follow several Mass Effect groups on deviantArt, I'm mostly familiar with shipping from that series, and by god do they get stupid. The ones I can remember from the top of my head are:
Shepard and Javik
Shepard and Wrex
Shepard and Grunt
Shepard and EDI
Shepard and Zaeed
Shepard and Legion (although the erotic fanfiction I heard for that was hilarious)
Shepard and Anderson
Shepard and Saren
Shepard and Mordin
Shepard and The Illusive Man
Shepard and Dr. Chakwas
Shepard and a Collector
Shepard and Hackett
Shepard and Shepard
For more than half of those, I've seen with both male and female Shepards.
Now, onto those that don't involve Shepard!:
Kasumi and Jodum Bau
Samantha and Steve
James and Steve
Diana and Samantha
Diana and Steve
Diana and Thane
Jack and Miranda
Miranda and Liara
Liara and Javik
Hackett and Anderson
Aria and Liara
EDI and Legion (I've seen a few where EDI gets impregnated by Legion)
Liara and Shepard's sister
This is starting to make my head hurt from all the stupid. For most of these pairings, there's clearly nothing between the characters romance wise. For several, the characters interactions with one another are very little to non existent. Hell, for a lot of them, they just ignore sexual/species preference.
Not to mention most often they're written/drawn very poorly.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor(Trust me that's my main reason for Fuuka/every girl). However when it is serious shipping then no. Also Mitsuru/Yukari,it's not a bad pairing just a little too weak.Chie/Yukiko is done better.
As for non Persona parings,nothing really comes to mind except the Edgeworth/Phoenix pairing, for again lack of support.
NOw I sit and wait for the people who will flood me with "proof" of the above mentioned pairings.
So where was it established in the game that Kanji is gay? The game even goes against this idea several times, let's look at the evidence, he thought he might be gay because he was attracted to a girl who was dressed like a boy (who he was still attracted to after they found it they weren't a boy), he doesn't like girls personally because they make fun of the fact that he likes crafts (seen as a girl thing in the game), he peeps on girls in that hot spring scene, and he says "this isn't about being gay or not, it's about rejection" when confronting his shadow.
For example: I'm a huge Kingdom Hearts fan, and I generally tend to scoff at any pairing that isn't Sora/Kairi or Roxas/Xion. I tend to puke internally whenever I see Sora paired with Riku; any homo moments between them in canon were a result of bad writing and NOTHING. ELSE. GOT IT!? I also hate it when I see Axel and Roxas as anything more than friends for similar reasons. One more thing: It is my honest opinion that Aqua, Ventus and Terra should never be paired with one another; they're all surrogate siblings, for crying out loud!
*Sigh* Yeah. Us Kingdom Hearts fans have it tough. Only, like, every third entry in the KHFanfic archive on Fanfiction.net ISN'T a slash. And those are usually either AUs, have OCs in them, or are a romance between an OC and a canon character.
I dislike Roxas/Axel because first: they're nobodies and can't feel emotions (Yes, I've played KH3D, however at the time this was still true), and second: Because no matter how young Axel actually looks, he's at least 10-13 years older than Roxas. I don't like ANY nobody slash, because the only probable reason for it would be if some of the members wanted to see if they could get ANY emotional response out of it. And I can only see five of the members of Organization 13 attempting this in character.
Moving on, I also dislike ANY romance involving Craig Boone from Fallout: New Vegas. There's just too much emotional trauma for me to think that he would become involved with anyone for a loooooooooonng while.
Also, Anders/Fenris.
Now, going back to Kingdom Hearts.
Battleaxx90 said:
I tend to puke internally whenever I see Sora paired with Riku; any homo moments between them in canon were a result of bad writing and NOTHING. ELSE. GOT IT!?
Um. I just want to let you know, that that sentence? It comes off as homophobic. You're using the phrase "Homo moments" in conjunction with "Bad writing". For all we know, Nomura could have INTENDED the two of them to act like that. Besides, if the fans want to take Sora's and Riku's interactions as indications that they're in a relationship, then fine. That's them. How does it affect you?
Sure, I've ranted about the pairings I hate, but that's because those pairings would need the precipitants to act out of character in order to be believable. Sora and Riku... I can see them getting together in character. So, it's a valid ship.
Other crazy valid ships: Arcade Gannon/ Good Karma Male!Courier. Cass/ Veronica. Cass/ Male!Courier. Isabella/ Merril (Dragon age 2). Lea/ Isa (Kingdom Hearts). And many many more.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor(Trust me that's my main reason for Fuuka/every girl). However when it is serious shipping then no. Also Mitsuru/Yukari,it's not a bad pairing just a little too weak.Chie/Yukiko is done better.
As for non Persona parings,nothing really comes to mind except the Edgeworth/Phoenix pairing, for again lack of support.
NOw I sit and wait for the people who will flood me with "proof" of the above mentioned pairings.
So where was it established in the game that Kanji is gay? The game even goes against this idea several times, let's look at the evidence, he thought he might be gay because he was attracted to a girl who was dressed like a boy (who he was still attracted to after they found it they weren't a boy), he doesn't like girls personally because they make fun of the fact that he likes crafts (seen as a girl thing in the game), he peeps on girls in that hot spring scene, and he says "this isn't about being gay or not, it's about rejection" when confronting his shadow.
I'm pretty sure the last part was added in international versions,he was just along for the ride in the hotsprings scene where there was no intentional peeking just the girl's being awful at listening. Unless you're talking about the camping trip wher it just as could have easily been Yu or Yousuke he was looking at.Also where does it really show he's still attracted to Naoto after the reveal,I can't remember a point like that(that's not me being smarmy I really have terrible memory.Finally I do have a friend who is gay partially due to girl's being so awful to him. Not saying that it's some solid fact that Kanji is gay but just I've seen that sort of thing happen.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor(Trust me that's my main reason for Fuuka/every girl). However when it is serious shipping then no. Also Mitsuru/Yukari,it's not a bad pairing just a little too weak.Chie/Yukiko is done better.
As for non Persona parings,nothing really comes to mind except the Edgeworth/Phoenix pairing, for again lack of support.
NOw I sit and wait for the people who will flood me with "proof" of the above mentioned pairings.
So where was it established in the game that Kanji is gay? The game even goes against this idea several times, let's look at the evidence, he thought he might be gay because he was attracted to a girl who was dressed like a boy (who he was still attracted to after they found it they weren't a boy), he doesn't like girls personally because they make fun of the fact that he likes crafts (seen as a girl thing in the game), he peeps on girls in that hot spring scene, and he says "this isn't about being gay or not, it's about rejection" when confronting his shadow.
I'm pretty sure the last part was added in international versions,he was just along for the ride in the hotsprings scene where there was no intentional peeking just the girl's being awful at listening. Unless you're talking about the camping trip wher it just as could have easily been Yu or Yousuke he was looking at.Also where does it really show he's still attracted to Naoto after the reveal,I can't remember a point like that(that's not me being smarmy I really have terrible memory.Finally I do have a friend who is gay partially due to girl's being so awful to him. Not saying that it's some solid fact that Kanji is gay but just I've seen that sort of thing happen.
It shows he's still attracted to Naoto because of the several dozen times he blushes, turns away, and still has trouble talking to her when she shows up, not to mention, he wants to see her in different outfits during that beauty contest, they also added additional scenes in Persona 4 Golden, and are you going to claim the entire reason he snuck into the girls camp was not to prove he wasn't gay? Not to mention he gets nosebleeds (a Japanese thing to show somebody was having perverted thoughts about somebody else) several times, a few of which are only around women who aren't wearing much, and those are who those nosebleeds are clearly intended for at those times.
But you know which ones are the worst? The most-definitely-not-fanfic-author-avatar [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImplausibleDeniability] hooking up with...well, anyone who actually belongs into the story.
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Congratulations on winning the thread.
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This one threw me off too. He was just introduced so suddenly and almost immediately he latches on to Shinji. I didn't think Shinji was homosexual at all either. I will concede that it made sense though. Shinji may not have been a homosexual but he was desperate for any sort of caring and compassion anyone could give him.
Given that Kaworu was the first person to explicitly show any of those feelings towards Shinji it makes sense that he would begin to reciprocated them to some extent.
This one threw me off too. He was just introduced so suddenly and almost immediately he latches on to Shinji. I didn't think Shinji was homosexual at all either. I will concede that it made sense though. Shinji may not have been a homosexual but he was desperate for any sort of caring and compassion anyone could give him.
Given that Kaworu was the first person to explicitly show any of those feelings towards Shinji it makes sense that he would begin to reciprocated them to some extent.
Exactly, Shinji was in such a state at the time with no one to turn to that he latched himself to Kaworu. That's why he blushed when Kaworu said "I love you", because no one had shown that sort of affection to him before in living memory, so he was embarrased. He was desperate, like you said, however I don't think he reciprocated exactly.
I tend to be annoyed by Kanji/Naoto,or really any girl but Naoto is the most common.Mainly due to the fact that Kanji is gay. I don't mind it if you're just pairing for the sake of the hottness/crack factor
even for those people who hold the belief that somehow Kanji isn't gay (I find that notion rather silly anyway), Naoto and Kanji have the chemistry of oil and water. One's favorite pastime is crochet and knitting and is thick as a brick, the other is completely uninterested in anything feminine and is an intellectual who (based upon the romance option requirements) finds cunning attractive.
I also dislike pairings that make characters gay with no real evidence, simply for the sake of the romance. It's just off-putting.
Pretty much all of them, but specifically a) pairings where the 2 character quite clearly hate each other in the source material and b) homosexual pairings where 1 or both characters are clearly NOT homosexual, ie one of them is a huge ladies man/pervert.
I've never really been involved in fandoms all that much (although I did recently read a whole huge bunch of modern AU Merthur fanfiction after the last Merlin episode >>) but the way I see it, if someone wants to pair two characters, let them get on with it. I have better things to do than rage over something as silly as fan pairings.
Although it does annoy me somewhat when people start raging at same-sex fan pairings, insisting that the characters involved are straight if those characters have never actually mentioned their sexuality within the actual source material. Arthur marries Gwen you say? Why yes, he does, but I don't see how that precludes the possibility of him being attracted to Merlin. Bisexuality is a thing people, and bi-erasure is not cool.
And then there's the queer-baiting. Dean and Castiel are in no way interested in each other? Well then tell the writers to stop being asshats and to cut out the queer-baiting then. When the canon only ever treats same-sex attraction as a joke you can hardly blame the fandom from working out their frustrations in completely harmless fan works. If some girl somewhere wants to write a Destiel story let her. It's not hurting you.
While I usually don't care that much, the one specific pairing that I really hate is NarutoXSasuke in Naruto, mainly because it's fans are obnoxious, it'll never happen in cannon, and I find gay sex repulsive. I pretty much try to ignore all yaoi for the same reasons.
Incest also pisses me off, the most recent example being Sugu and Kirito in Sword Art Online. Yeah, they were biologically cousins but when you're raised as siblings it just doesn't lead to a romantic relationship, plus incest is bad 'mkay.
On a similar vein, does anyone else find the concept of harems ludicrously unrealistic, and rather insulting and degrading to women? I get the impression that those who think them up are very lonely indeed.
Shipping doesn't really grind my gears, I find it more humorous than rage-inducing. On that note:
Pictured above is a shipping chart for My Little Pony: Friendship is magic. A larger version can be found here [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/108/9/e/ship_png_by_ciscoql-d4wif6p.png].
Some points of interest:
There are several pairings of characters who have never had speaking lines.
Every main character has been paired with themselves at least once.
Multiple characters have been paired with pets.
Mutliple characters have been paired with inanimate objects.
Multiple inanimate objects have been paired with other inanimate objects.
Someone has been paired with Daring Doo. Daring Doo is a fictional character.
Someone has been paired with Twist. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just icky to think about.
Like I said, it doesn't make me mad. I just find it funny.
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